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Breadallelogram
Oct 9, 2012


Tatum Girlparts posted:

As someone who totally got sucked into the 'alright Hillary isn't perfect but she has the best shot of winning' side of things that was objectively the wrong choice.

:love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love:

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hubris.height
Jan 6, 2005

Pork Pro
it's good that Chapo is preaching liberal radicalization and not smug elitism about having known earlier about Hillary and the DNC

I went to my first political event last night and it was fun and good to know I'm not alone

Snowy
Oct 6, 2010

A man whose blood
Is very snow-broth;
One who never feels
The wanton stings and
Motions of the sense



hubris.height posted:

not smug elitism about having known earlier about Hillary and the DNC
I'm just catching up with his show but so far I feel like they're pretty smug about it in general. Maybe I need to listen more (likely) but when they do stuff like call protesters normies it seems a little silly when they just seem like twitter addicts, not exactly radicals in comparison.

And a question about other podcasts, someone earlier recommended Unanimous Dissent and District Sentinel. I know this isn't a thread for them, but what's the difference between them? Seems like almost the same feed but not quite which is a little puzzling.

E- lol never mind. I just started listening to District Sentinel and they answered my question immediately.

Snowy fucked around with this message at 15:03 on Feb 1, 2017

prefect
Sep 11, 2001

No one, Woodhouse.
No one.




Dead Man’s Band

Snowy posted:

I'm just catching up with his show but so far I feel like they're pretty smug about it in general. Maybe I need to listen more (likely) but when they do stuff like call protesters normies it seems a little silly when they just seem like twitter addicts, not exactly radicals in comparison.

When they refer to "normies", they're talking about normal people who don't think about socialism or other large-scale political things. It's not an insult; they're admitting that they're weirdos.

Megaman's Jockstrap
Jul 16, 2000

What a horrible thread to have a post.
Precisely. "Normies" is a burn on the hosts of Chapo. They will be the first to tell you that they are (currently) fringe.

Jonas Albrecht
Jun 7, 2012


There's no way Trump has won more races as Peach than me. She's my main.

Snowy
Oct 6, 2010

A man whose blood
Is very snow-broth;
One who never feels
The wanton stings and
Motions of the sense



Megaman's Jockstrap posted:

Precisely. "Normies" is a burn on the hosts of Chapo. They will be the first to tell you that they are (currently) fringe.

Yeah that's how it sounds, kinda egdelordy about being democratic socialists which is pretty funny.

Megaman's Jockstrap
Jul 16, 2000

What a horrible thread to have a post.

Snowy posted:

Yeah that's how it sounds, kinda egdelordy about being democratic socialists which is pretty funny.

What the hell does being "edgelordy" even mean? They seem like they're very real about who they are. They recognize that most people don't engage with politics the way they do, that they are grounded in Weird Twitter culture and on the political fringes. Is it because they make fun of dipshits for being dipshits?

SoupyTwist
Feb 20, 2008

Jonas Albrecht posted:

There's no way Trump has won more races as Peach than me. She's my main.

It's Trump, he'd play Gold Peach.


Megaman's Jockstrap posted:

What the hell does being "edgelordy" even mean? They seem like they're very real about who they are. They recognize that most people don't engage with politics the way they do, that they are grounded in Weird Twitter culture and on the political fringes. Is it because they make fun of dipshits for being dipshits?

Seeing how obsessed mainstream liberal thought is with decorum (and capitalism), yes.

Pellisworth
Jun 20, 2005

Megaman's Jockstrap posted:

Precisely. "Normies" is a burn on the hosts of Chapo. They will be the first to tell you that they are (currently) fringe.

fringe and also spectrum

prefect
Sep 11, 2001

No one, Woodhouse.
No one.




Dead Man’s Band
https://twitter.com/roddreher/status/826850670305300486
https://twitter.com/Bro_Pair/status/826860688534548481

tag youre fat
Aug 16, 2013

C'est l'homme ideal
charme au masculin
It's obviously important to include liberals in protest movements but I don't see anything smug about being suspicious of liberals who happily supported obama's foreign policy and drank the kool-aid for hillary and have suddenly done a 180. The US needs a movement that will last beyond Trump for real change to happen and while those people should be welcomed when they get out on the street if all they want in 2020 is another hillary then they''re not really helping that much

100 degrees Calcium
Jan 23, 2011



My hope, thin as it is, is that while they were able to sleepwalk through Obama and would have sleepwalked through Clinton, that this poo poo will jostle at least some useful fraction of people in a way where they'll recognize what's really at stake in the future, even if they didn't in the past.

Like, if somehow they might have become... awakened.

The Muppets On PCP
Nov 13, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

Snowy posted:

Yeah that's how it sounds, kinda egdelordy about being democratic socialists which is pretty funny.

they've been the opposite of edgelordy

they're acknowledging a lot of people who previously might have been run of the mill liberals or otherwise not heavily involved have been inspired to join protests for the first time, that this represents the best opportunity for the left in decades, and that their continued involvement is absolutely necessary, which means welcoming and encouraging them and not being holier than thou

in fact they told the edgelords to gently caress off in the last premium episode

Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005

There is a reason tankies hate them after all....

prefect
Sep 11, 2001

No one, Woodhouse.
No one.




Dead Man’s Band
Amber deleted her Twitter account? https://twitter.com/amberaleefrost

emdash
Oct 19, 2003

and?

prefect posted:

Amber deleted her Twitter account? https://twitter.com/amberaleefrost

Doubtful, she just deactivates when she's too busy

prefect
Sep 11, 2001

No one, Woodhouse.
No one.




Dead Man’s Band

emdash posted:

Doubtful, she just deactivates when she's too busy

drat. She said some stuff during the "delete Uber" thing that I wanted to quote. Basically, she was happy that people were using Lyft, somebody else said "when do we get to tell them that there's no ethical consumption under capitalism", and Amber (gently) told that person to back off.

The Muppets On PCP
Nov 13, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

100 degrees Calcium posted:

My hope, thin as it is, is that while they were able to sleepwalk through Obama and would have sleepwalked through Clinton, that this poo poo will jostle at least some useful fraction of people in a way where they'll recognize what's really at stake in the future, even if they didn't in the past.

Like, if somehow they might have become... awakened.

i've actually been surprised at how many people i know who were still liberal up through the election over the past couple months on their own started radicalizing

Grondoth
Feb 18, 2011

The Muppets On PCP posted:

i've actually been surprised at how many people i know who were still liberal up through the election over the past couple months on their own started radicalizing

Well, things were... kinda working.

They're not working now. Crises, for as much as they loving blow and you don't want to encounter them cause they're terrible, move people along the steps of change.

The Muppets On PCP
Nov 13, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

Grondoth posted:

Well, things were... kinda working.

They're not working now. Crises, for as much as they loving blow and you don't want to encounter them cause they're terrible, move people along the steps of change.

oh no i just figured they'd wallow in despondency and fatalism like a lot of people did after bush's re-election but instead they're energized and pissed

incoherent
Apr 24, 2004

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I think the comment at the end of the last non-premium episode that "a lot of people were a sleep at the wheel for the last 8 years" was profound and the snake people who grew up only knowing\voting obama and didn't have the need to radicalized when they should have began to.

Because we're so stupid with the concepts of generational names, it's specifically the age-group of people who are in between the Gen-x and snake people who are unfortunately roped in with snake people...which I just googled and they're called the "Oregon Trail Generation" which is loving amazing.

Breadallelogram
Oct 9, 2012


Wtf how old are snake people

SousaphoneColossus
Feb 16, 2004

There are a million reasons to ruin things.
the snake people are the people who vote for the lizard people, duh

The Muppets On PCP
Nov 13, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

incoherent posted:

Because we're so stupid with the concepts of generational names, it's specifically the age-group of people who are in between the Gen-x and snake people who are unfortunately roped in with snake people...which I just googled and they're called the "Oregon Trail Generation" which is loving amazing.

originally they were called cold y

Breadallelogram
Oct 9, 2012


I want to know if I'm a snake person

incoherent
Apr 24, 2004

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Breadallelogram posted:

Wtf how old are snake people

They can be as old as 35 years old.

Breadallelogram
Oct 9, 2012


incoherent posted:

They can be as old as 35 years old.

What's the low end?

The Unnamed One
Jan 13, 2012

"BOOM!"
Snake person comedian Dan Nainan

Tambreet
Nov 28, 2006

Ninja Platypus
Muldoon
This article about how the Democrats will be 'overplaying their hand' if they fight against Gorsuch is circulating among some liberal friends and is driving me crazy. I'm glad I recently found this podcast/community which lets me know that not all liberals are as lame as the HRC/DNC democrats.

Sushi in Yiddish
Feb 2, 2008

Breadallelogram posted:

I want to know if I'm a snake person

Nanomachines, brother

emdash
Oct 19, 2003

and?
why is "snake person" the term

also, i think i'm a snake person

Mr. Lobe
Feb 23, 2007

... Dry bones...


Undeclared Eggplant posted:

This article about how the Democrats will be 'overplaying their hand' if they fight against Gorsuch is circulating among some liberal friends and is driving me crazy. I'm glad I recently found this podcast/community which lets me know that not all liberals are as lame as the HRC/DNC democrats.

nah liberals are pretty lame. it's leftists who are cool

ManoliIsFat
Oct 4, 2002

emdash posted:

why is "snake person" the term

also, i think i'm a snake person

One of those stupid Chrome plugins that replaces "millennial" with "snake people" for hilarious headline screencap opportunities.

hubris.height
Jan 6, 2005

Pork Pro
yeah, I was specifically referring to when they called out people who were smug and lovely about people realizing the DNC screwed them in the last premium episode. they want to encourage people to engage with critical thinking in politics, and I think that's commendable, and it reached me in a meaningful way if nothing else

I forgot that the baseless masses did not get to hear that part

emdash
Oct 19, 2003

and?

ManoliIsFat posted:

One of those stupid Chrome plugins that replaces "millennial" with "snake people" for hilarious headline screencap opportunities.

oh. showing my age near the top of the snake person bracket :v:

SousaphoneColossus
Feb 16, 2004

There are a million reasons to ruin things.
snake person should exclusively refer to snake people who don't know what snake people means (i.e. me until 1 minute ago)

prefect
Sep 11, 2001

No one, Woodhouse.
No one.




Dead Man’s Band
You fuckers had me thinking the word filter was back. :argh:

Megaman's Jockstrap
Jul 16, 2000

What a horrible thread to have a post.

Undeclared Eggplant posted:

This article about how the Democrats will be 'overplaying their hand' if they fight against Gorsuch is circulating among some liberal friends and is driving me crazy. I'm glad I recently found this podcast/community which lets me know that not all liberals are as lame as the HRC/DNC democrats.

Don't just use this as an escape. Take the concepts and arguments from Chapo, soften them up, and deploy them. A variant on Christman's "centrists want people to be wandering nomads who endlessly compete for poo poo jobs" has gotten several right-leaning acquaintances to say "yeah that sucks! At least we agree that's a poo poo deal and community matters!" -> you can parlay that into "that's what unchecked corporations want, my man" - they'll deny it but you have planted the seed.

All kinds of people care about community, never forget that. And rapacious capitalism destroys it. Play that angle.

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Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。
Nah, that's nothing. It's this garbage fire that we have to deal with :http://www.latimes.com/politics/washington/la-na-trailguide-updates-rep-adam-schiff-trump-administration-1485895271-htmlstory.html

The DNC writ large is whining about their radicalized base and how difficult it's going to make their jobs while blindly pulling the lever for Trump and the heads of the party, like Pelosi, saying that we have to really work together as a country.

Don't worry, the Dems know this one, it's the classic "snatch defeat from the jaws of victory" play that they've been running for the past 30 years.

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