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Dr. Arbitrary: Mar 15, 2006; Bleak Gremlin

Anyone have that Libertarian Utopia thing that ends with the guy murdering a Postal worker because he worked for the GOVERNMENT!

# ? Jan 31, 2017 21:53

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Trilas: Sep 16, 2004

Dr. Arbitrary posted:

Anyone have that Libertarian Utopia thing that ends with the guy murdering a Postal worker because he worked for the GOVERNMENT!

Not exactly, but I've got this. http://www.newyorker.com/humor/daily-shouts/l-p-d-libertarian-police-department

quote:

He turned. In his hand was a revolver that the Constitution said he had every right to own. He fired at me and missed. I pulled my own gun, put a quarter in it, and fired back. The bullet lodged in a U.S.P.S. mailbox less than a foot from his head. I shot the mailbox again, on purpose.

# ? Jan 31, 2017 21:58

Keeshhound: Jan 14, 2010; Mad Duck Swagger

Shalebridge Cradle posted:

Idk if that's but are we ever at war with the countries?

Like North Korea 60 years ago and Cuba even further back.

How dare you!?

My brother died fighting Hungarian tyrrany in the 1995 double-secret war of Hungarian aggression, not so you could try to rewrite history!

You make me sick.

# ? Jan 31, 2017 22:06

Dr. Arbitrary: Mar 15, 2006; Bleak Gremlin

Trilas posted:

Not exactly, but I've got this. http://www.newyorker.com/humor/daily-shouts/l-p-d-libertarian-police-department

I love that one, but it's a different one. I think he pays for a toll road with a cube of gold to get past his neighbor's house.

# ? Jan 31, 2017 22:45

Trilas: Sep 16, 2004

Dr. Arbitrary posted:

I love that one, but it's a different one. I think he pays for a toll road with a cube of gold to get past his neighbor's house.

If you find it, please post it here. That sounds promising.

# ? Jan 31, 2017 22:46

Zerg Mans: Oct 19, 2006

Julio Cruz posted:

Whenever I see this I always wonder how the gently caress Hungary managed to get on that list.

Hungary currently has a neofascist government and are thus the good guys in the fight against commuJews

Then again communist countries are on the list. Maybe the author is just insane?

# ? Jan 31, 2017 22:48

Rick_Hunter: Jan 5, 2004; My guys are still fighting the hard fight!
(weapons, shields and drones are still online!)

Trilas posted:

If you find it, please post it here. That sounds promising.

I've searched for this thing about half a dozen times since election day and I forget the search terms every time. But I found it. Sorry about the bad punctuation but i'm not fixing all of that.

Libertopia posted:

i sat in my living room sipping my cup of chicory and looking out my window and pondering my choices. overhead flocks of ghang gliders soared through the soot, taking advantage of the unregulated skies to make their morning commute. i shifted, somewhat uncomfrtable. i needed to make a decision soon, before my neighbor rumbled out of his driveway in his abrams tank and the vibrations from the tearing of pavement made the decision for me

i read through the billboards on the sidewalk again. joe's sewage: faster than anyone! poo poo-b-gon [as i read the name i silently thanked z0r for the death of the nanny state and the freedom to curse in public]: no clogs! there were five others that i passed over, but i knew, that morning, i was a poo poo-b-gon man. i trotted outside and grabbed the sewage hose that sat dribbling on my lawn. where was the nearest linkup station? i jogged down the street, briefly warming my face on the fire from my neighbor's house, before i tripped on a stray corpse and fell face first onto the sidewalk. as i pushed myself up and wiped the blood [not mine ] from my hands, i saw the linkup station. after paying my thirty dollar day-fee [a small price to pay for fredom] and jogging the mile back to my house, i was soon happily doing my business. like a free man

i jammed my foot on the gas and grinned as my engine roared. it was free of catalytic converters and other emasculating controls, and at last, was the robust and mighty machine i had always known it could be. i flipped my sunglasses open and jammed them over my eyes and the cloud of black smoke behind me was witness to the power of my works. ther umble of gravel beneath me was like glorious harmony to the howl of the engine. for nearly fifteen seconds i was grinning like a maniac as the car jolted and crunched down the crumbling street. of course , i had to slow and toss my tiny cube of gold into the toll box, and wait for my neighbor to wave me past, but soon i was back to full speed, living life as free as the birds used to do before we shot them all.
i downshifted into third as i caught side of an unfamiliar barricade ahead. smoke rose in a plume behind the stacked wood and bodies. as i came to a stop a man with a cigar gritted in his teeth and a shirt soaked red and cracked sunglasses waved me to roll down my window.

"what seems to be the problem?"

"new repairs on this stretch. going to need double tolls till weve got it fixed"

i grimaced as i searched around my glove box for an extra cube. at this rate id never make the public hanging...

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i run into the center of bear-baiting ring. my stomach churns as i face the beast. howls and cries from the crowd wash over me like hypodermic needles at the beach. i feint left b ut as i push off the blood-soaked earth my foot explodes throgh the my shoddily-constructed shoe. with a silent curse for whatever nameless ten-year-old sewed it i kick it off and dash to the right. thank z0r i always ccw, i think to myself as i air-somersault past the bear. the crowd of mercenaries roar at the sight of my acrobatics.

if i can win the crowd then perhaps the king of this stretch of road will let me go...good thing i have an ace up my sleeve.

make that two, i think as i pull out my twin desert eagles, locked and loaded with the finest hollow-tip bullets that our local toy/gun store carry. the recoil from both firing at once knock me back against the blood-drenched wall of the arena but i keep firing at the bear.

as it finally staggers back and crashes to the ground i air somersault forward again and kneel, crossing my arms in front of my chest and holding my guns against my shoulders and feeling the cheers of the crowd wash over me. i have won my freedom. i let only the briefest pity for the less skillful travelers wash over me, but content myself with the thought of penning a scathing letter against these mercenaries tonight. then i grin. score one for the market, motherfucker.

shoeless and gasping i run down the road toward the city, dodging shards of glass and the bones of long dead children. i had paid the last toll with my car itself. once the consortium has purchased enough of sick and dying bodies from the local hospital to grind into cement, we'll have our new roads [or so the ads promise], but it's too late for my car.

i hear a faint stirring in the underbrush that stretches out toward the asphalt. with all the nimbleness of an unregulated manufacturer responding to demand, i do a three-quarters cartwheel while simultaneously firing ten shots from my dual DEs. i chuckle at the crashing and groaning from the brush in the silence after my deafening barrage. oen step closer to that new road.

i take off running again. by three p.m. i'm at the office. as i approach the elevators there's a deafening crash and smoke comes from behind the elevator doors. i note the name of the manufacturer and use my bleeding feet to write a message of warning on the floor of the hall. i ignore the moans and take the stairs to my office.

my manager scuttles toward me as i enter. "eight hours late? you're fired. and you can be sure no other company will hire your scummy rear end in the future"

my left eye twitches as i calmly respond. "you forgot one thing."

"what's that?"

"there's only one monopoly we don't tolerate. a monopoly of force." i backflip as i pull out my DEs and start firing. the screams of the dying fill the air like mercury. this is one market that just got regulated.
before i leave the office, i loot the bodies of my dead coworkers, murdered by my hand, like an irs employee mailing a 1040. i leave the office a tomb; a blood offering to the hungry god i worship now. stepping back into the stairwell is like stepping through a looking glass. i am wearing shoes ripped from the dead feet of my former boss. call it an audit.

with a ninja's grace i leap from stair to stair as i exit the building. light bulbs flicker and dim; the local smallpox epidemic is two weeks old and they've almost run out of bodies to burn for power. they're talking about charging customers one child per year as fuel. some people were upset about it but at least the government isn't behind it.

my shoulders are heaving as i crash through doors into the lobby. a pack of wolves lurk around the receptionist's desk. night is almost here. they begin to howl as i jog outside into the gathering darkness
i check my watch�6 oclock. I had meant to run a few errands before going home. Just one, actually. I run down the street until i see a dimly-lit verizon store. the salesman doesn't even blink an eye when i enter, dripping blood and gore, desert eagles jammed in my waist. then i pull out my guns and point them in his face.
he blinks.

"i paid 5 bucks more last month, you know?" i growl between gritted teeth "so?" he says i put the guns back in my waist. the salesman exhales in relief

then i kneel and draw my katana. with one smooth motion i behead the clerk.

"i wish to file a complaint," i say, as gouts of arterial blood spray paint the ceiling.

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at last i'm home. i recline back in my babyskin chair and swirl some orange juice in a mug. as i bring the mug up to my limits i feel a sudden pain in my lip. i fish around in the juice and pull out a shard of glass. rolling my eyes i toss it on the pile in the corner.

my pet tiger pads into the room. not for the first time i offer a silent thanks that no gang of criminals can tell me not to keep it. then i see the blood dripping from its jaws.

i curse as i ease out of my chair and walk into the next room, following the blood. the corpse of my neighbor's son is still warm on the floor of the kitchen. i turn on the alarm system and set up the house defenses just in time for the doorbell to ring.

I look out my front window; my neighbor is carrying a shotgun and has a crazed look on his face. I call out:
"What do you want?"

"I want that damned tiger."

"No."

"GIVE ME THE TIGER."

"Come and get him."

My neighbor shudders as he considers his options: 1) wait to ambush me later, 2) attack now, 3) write a scathing letter and mail it to all our neighbors. He cocks his shotgun and fires it at the door.
My defense system activates. With fury and power that would warm the heart of a Blackwater soldier it reduces my neighbor to ash. As the whir of the chainguns slows i walk back to my babyskin chair. it feels soft. it feels warm. it feels like freedom.

alarms wake me from my slumber. not my house; the neighborhood coop alarms are ringing. i listen to the sound. next to me my slave girl stirs. i casually backhand her across the mouth to keep her quiet. three horns followed by a low ringing�possible outsider invasion.

i check to see that her chains are secure then lower myself out of bed. a low whistel summons my tiger. i press a button next to my bed; a slave child scurries in. i order him to bring me my katana.
wrapped in my robe and with my sword strapped across my back i slip outside into the ringing night. the noises are coming from the south. i see a neighbor across the street slap his wife in the face as she begs him not to leave and i thank z0r no slave has tempted me.

the light from torches flicker in the distance at the watch point. there are already several neighbors gathered in a circle. i can hear a low muttering but i cannot see what they have surrounded
i reach the outside of the circle with my tiger at my side. it carelessly bites one of the men in the circle on the leg. he falls to ground and i take his place and see...

it is worse than i had feared...a face as dark and soulless as the night sky looks up at me. tears stream down his face. i shudder at the thought of more of them...out in the darkness...i lope away from the circel and call my tiger to my side. tonight...we hunt

i see the fear in their eyes as i approach the campfire. i wear a chain of tiny ears around my neck and my face is spattered with blood. i grip the head of my enemy in my right hand.
ashen-faced, my neighbor asks me of the forces in the darkness

"it's a group seeking medicine for sick children," i reply. "it was." i suppress a giggle. i toss the little head into the middle of the circle.

"are you ok?" one asks

the others mumble, afraid to look me in the eyes

i look him in the eyes. he twitches. i say

"sanity is like a rule. a regulation. i am free."

i heft my katana in my right hand, then bring it to his neck

"will you question me, or will you do as i say."
it is not a question.

"a man chooses" i say.

they kneel before me. alarms wail in the distance. i see the earth soaked in a tide of blood. i finger the necklace of ears like a rosary.

"we are strong," i say. "together we are free".

they murmur in assent. one man remains quiet. i remove his head, then hand it to one of my followers.

"we are free. put it on a stake, to warn those who would oppose us."

i order the rest of the men to secure the neighborhood gold. we will keep it at my house; i will disperse it as necessary. the gold is mine...the precious...
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i sit on a throne of skulls inside my new house. palace. i run my fingers through the head of the slave who kneels at my side. in my other hand i grip the femur of a dead enemy. a slave used a rock to hone the end of the bone to sharp points. the walls and floor are red, spattered with blood and smeared with dirt; the ceiling is black with soot. my tiger stalks outside.

when the snows come we move to the caves in the hills for warmth. i will spread my seed.

a beast stirs. i breath in the fetid air, thick with blood and death. law is dead. i am the law. the market is dead. i am the market. i scratch at my fur loincloth and crush a louse. government is dead. i am the government. god is dead. i am a god.

somewhere in the distance i hear the howl of the alarms and the chatter of guns.

and this is heaven.

But you remember one thing: if you screw up just this much, you'll be flying a cargo plane full of rubber dog poo poo out of Hong Kong!

Epilogue
the cave is dark but warm. the women huddle under furs and blankets for warmth during the day. i lead the hunting parties out in search of game but any creature larger than a chipmunk has long since been slaughtered. we hunt squirrels and rodents with our AK-47s; sometimes a scrap of meat is still left after the hail of bullets.

one of the women is heavy with my child. i alone may mate with them. the heads of the men who objected rot on stakes outside the cave mouth.

one evening after we have returned from our mighty hunt with two squirrel carcasses and a dead robin someone almost tripped on, we spy a man in the distance staggering toward the cave. we watch as he winds his way through the badlands. black snow falls, mixed with ash. his powder blue shirt is badly torn and bloody and there is no spark in his eyes.

he begs us for shelter. i explain that our food supplies are low but that there is room in our cave if he will hunt and accept my rule. he nods, exhausted, and starts to shuffle past me to the fire.
then i catch sight of the patch on his sleeve. a stylized white eagle on a field of blue. the mark of the oppressors. i grab his collar and growl in his face "you're one of them"

"what? what are you talking about"

"one of them. the patch. the eagle."

"p-p-please...i just...delivered mail"

i grip his throat in my hand and lift him and shout "A CRIMINAL!!!!!"

my tribe huddles around me.

"HE WORKED...FOR THE GOVERNMENT!!!"

i see the rage in their eyes. hooting, they jump up and down, calling for blood. i lower the man to the ground and they mutter with disappointment. i beckon for a slave to bring me my club: all sharpened bone and shattered glass. i put my mouth next to the man's ear and i grasp the club and hold it in front of his eyes. "If you want a vision of the future," I say. "Imagine my warclub, smashing a human face, forever."
then i swing it against his head, and it crunches, and he falls to the ground.

"we eat meat tonight" I say with a smile. the cheers are deafening.

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Arcteryx Anarchist: Sep 15, 2007; Fun Shoe

lolbertarian posts make me think "just read Snow Crash"

# ? Jan 31, 2017 23:21

Pomplamoose: Jun 28, 2008

Someone posts this...

and in response...

# ? Feb 1, 2017 01:39

ToxicSlurpee: Nov 5, 2003; -=SEND HELP=-; Pillbug

I'm pretty sure Hitler was screaming "kill all the Jews" while he was still a soldier even. Mein Kampf was published in 1925 and 1926. It pretty explicitly said "Jews are bad and are trying to take over the world."

I could be wrong but it seems kind of obvious long before WW2 what Hitler was all about. Now we have a political movement that's been screaming similar things about Muslims and trying to convince us they aren't Nazis 2.0. That comment is dumb on so many levels.

# ? Feb 1, 2017 01:43

Pomplamoose: Jun 28, 2008

Saw this in a mental floss article and wondered what alt-right conspiracy theorists would say.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccfDo7yTHr8

# ? Feb 1, 2017 04:13

RagnarokAngel: Oct 5, 2006; Black Magic Extraordinaire

ToxicSlurpee posted:

I'm pretty sure Hitler was screaming "kill all the Jews" while he was still a soldier even. Mein Kampf was published in 1925 and 1926. It pretty explicitly said "Jews are bad and are trying to take over the world."

I could be wrong but it seems kind of obvious long before WW2 what Hitler was all about. Now we have a political movement that's been screaming similar things about Muslims and trying to convince us they aren't Nazis 2.0. That comment is dumb on so many levels.

My parents are saying that this is different because Muslims are at war with us, whereas no one ever heard of Jews being violent.

I'm pretty sure in 1938 a lot of people "heard of" Jews being violent. Really the whole "Jews are docile and non violent" thing is a stereotype as a direct result of the holocaust.

RagnarokAngel fucked around with this message at 04:34 on Feb 1, 2017

# ? Feb 1, 2017 04:32

Dr. Arbitrary: Mar 15, 2006; Bleak Gremlin

People say Hitler was a great speaker, but I've listened to a few of his speeches and I can't understand a single drat word he says.

# ? Feb 1, 2017 04:34

Who What Now: Sep 10, 2006; by Azathoth

Dr. Arbitrary posted:

Anyone have that Libertarian Utopia thing that ends with the guy murdering a Postal worker because he worked for the GOVERNMENT!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHEzU1BLp8o

# ? Feb 1, 2017 05:40

Jurgan: May 8, 2007; Just pour it directly into your gaping mouth-hole you decadent slut

Keeshhound posted:

How dare you!?

My brother died fighting Hungarian tyrrany in the 1995 double-secret war of Hungarian aggression, not so you could try to rewrite history!

You make me sick.

Stay strong, brother. My uncle was deployed to the Iceland front, and I still remember his harrowing tales.

# ? Feb 1, 2017 06:20

Arcteryx Anarchist: Sep 15, 2007; Fun Shoe

authoritarian.jpg :psyduck:

# ? Feb 1, 2017 06:54

boner confessor: Apr 25, 2013; by R. Guyovich

lancemantis posted:

authoritarian.jpg

*is pro-life, has adopted 0 children*

# ? Feb 1, 2017 07:08

Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

Sebadoh Gigante posted:

Saw this in a mental floss article and wondered what alt-right conspiracy theorists would say.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccfDo7yTHr8

If a thin wire between two poles counts as an enclosing wall then why not just touch the two poles with the sincere desire to create a dividing line between them and not put any physical object?

It's in the same spirit as making appliances with options with no other purpose than to rules-lawyer God.

# ? Feb 1, 2017 11:00

ihatepants: Nov 5, 2011; Let the burning of pants commence. These things drive me nuts.

ihatepants posted:

Thanks guys. This is how I ended up arguing my stance, with some of your input (hope you don't mind). I'm Barry Wine in this and the OP is Phil Harmonic. Can you believe that this guy is a Catholic priest?

There's been updates to this. Is it even worth responding to this guy anymore?

Edit:

Because I'm dumb, I responded anyway.

ihatepants fucked around with this message at 13:58 on Feb 1, 2017

# ? Feb 1, 2017 11:33

gradenko_2000: Oct 5, 2010; HELL SERPENT; Lipstick Apathy

lancemantis posted:

authoritarian.jpg

Duterte to drug war critics: Why not adopt an addict?

quote:

President Rodrigo Duterte has a suggestion for critics of his deadly campaign against illegal drugs: join his proposed "adopt-an-addict" program.

"If you want, [all you] bleeding hearts, if you really want to stop the violence and all, [just adopt them]. Adopt an addict, share a love between your fellow man," said Duterte on Monday, December 12.

He was speaking during the oath-taking of People�s National Movement for Federalism officers at the Palace.

Before mentioning this "proposal," Duterte was talking about his government's lack of funds for rehabilitation centers since the 2016 budget they are working with was prepared by the previous administration.

He bristled at critics accusing him of not recognizing the importance of rehabilitating drug addicts.

Duterte said that, by adopting addicts, his critics would know about their "perdition."

He even joked that his critics can start choosing drug addicts to take in.

"[Because if you want, I can start with all those in Tondo. You pick who you want, female, male.]" he said, to chuckles from his audience.

# ? Feb 1, 2017 12:07

Shalebridge Cradle: Apr 23, 2008

Guavanaut posted:

If a thin wire between two poles counts as an enclosing wall then why not just touch the two poles with the sincere desire to create a dividing line between them and not put any physical object?

It's in the same spirit as making appliances with options with no other purpose than to rules-lawyer God.

It's my understanding that Judaism has a long proud tradition of rules lawyering god. I even remember hearing one story where God was proud his children were clever enough to come up with a loophole. Fair warning though I'm not Jewish.

# ? Feb 1, 2017 15:24

TinTower: Apr 21, 2010; You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.

You're allowed to take a flight on the Sabbath as long as you keep your seatbelt on, because technically you're then wearing the plane.

# ? Feb 1, 2017 15:31

Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

Shalebridge Cradle posted:

It's my understanding that Judaism has a long proud tradition of rules lawyering god. I even remember hearing one story where God was proud his children were clever enough to come up with a loophole. Fair warning though I'm not Jewish.

That's The Oven of Akhnai.

It's a good example of small-c conservatism, in that it allows Rabbis to adjust to a changing society by majority consensus while still obeying the letter of the traditional law, but it can also be seen as excessively legalistic, in that if you truly think God wants you to spend Saturday learning from your Torah instead of working then maybe the correct thing to do is spend Saturday learning from your Torah instead of figuring out lolbertarian levels of well actually I'm not technically switching this light on or off.

# ? Feb 1, 2017 15:44

VideoTapir: Oct 18, 2005; He'll tire eventually.

lancemantis posted:

lolbertarian posts make me think "just read Snow Crash"

"Man, this sounds awesome!"

# ? Feb 1, 2017 16:10

omnibobb: Dec 3, 2005; Title text'd

Shalebridge Cradle posted:

It's my understanding that Judaism has a long proud tradition of rules lawyering god. I even remember hearing one story where God was proud his children were clever enough to come up with a loophole. Fair warning though I'm not Jewish.

I dont know if they still do it, but podcast Skeptics Guide to the Universe has a regular segment called Fact or Fiction, but they occasionally have a now atheistic Jewish man who comes on and does "Jewey or Screwy" where he goes over these and the hosts have to guess which one is an actual Jewish rules lawyering tradition.

# ? Feb 1, 2017 16:14

RagnarokAngel: Oct 5, 2006; Black Magic Extraordinaire

Guavanaut posted:

That's The Oven of Akhnai.

It's a good example of small-c conservatism, in that it allows Rabbis to adjust to a changing society by majority consensus while still obeying the letter of the traditional law, but it can also be seen as excessively legalistic, in that if you truly think God wants you to spend Saturday learning from your Torah instead of working then maybe the correct thing to do is spend Saturday learning from your Torah instead of figuring out lolbertarian levels of well actually I'm not technically switching this light on or off.

It's a lot easier to say that until you have to live that tradition day in and day out. It seems really rules lawyer-y from the outside but it's important to note it's literally a multi millenial tradition to try and figure this stuff out that when you're coming in from the outside and just see all of it at once, it's overwhelming.

# ? Feb 1, 2017 17:10

Jurgan: May 8, 2007; Just pour it directly into your gaping mouth-hole you decadent slut

RagnarokAngel posted:

It's a lot easier to say that until you have to live that tradition day in and day out. It seems really rules lawyer-y from the outside but it's important to note it's literally a multi millenial tradition to try and figure this stuff out that when you're coming in from the outside and just see all of it at once, it's overwhelming.

When your entire written body of law relies on making sacrifices at a temple that no longer exists, you have to get creative to stay relevant.

# ? Feb 1, 2017 17:32

Throwing Turtles: May 3, 2015

Shalebridge Cradle posted:

It's my understanding that Judaism has a long proud tradition of rules lawyering god. I even remember hearing one story where God was proud his children were clever enough to come up with a loophole. Fair warning though I'm not Jewish.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabbath_mode

At the very least spending all of your time trying to comply with an ever growing Rube Goldberg set of rules will keep you out of other peoples hair.

# ? Feb 1, 2017 17:51

RagnarokAngel: Oct 5, 2006; Black Magic Extraordinaire

Jurgan posted:

When your entire written body of law relies on making sacrifices at a temple that no longer exists, you have to get creative to stay relevant.

Well the Talmud puts an official moratorium on sacrifices until such a time that it comes back (i.e. its looking like 'never')

# ? Feb 1, 2017 17:57

Dr. Faustus: Feb 18, 2001; Grimey Drawer

lancemantis posted:

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I can think of at least two people in the news from Saturday who were loving furious and devastated by the travel ban. The reason? They had sponsored Syrian refugee families and those families had been turned away. They had prepared homes and jobs for these folks and just wanted to welcome them into their communities.
This administration and its supporters are a daily shock to what's left of my heart.

The best I can do is look on the bright side at the people (protesters, and Sally Q. Yates) who are at least not taking this poo poo sitting down.

gently caress these assholes who are running this administration and triple-gently caress the people who like it.

ihatepants posted:

There's been updates to this. Is it even worth responding to this guy anymore?

Edit:

Because I'm dumb, I responded anyway.

I don't think it's worth it.

You made a good point about Reince, but I watched that interview on MTP Sunday and he didn't just contradict anyone else, he contradicted himself. He did a full 180 in just two questions. It went like so:
R.P. "This order doesn't affect green-card holders."
C.T. "There are green-card holders in detention and being deported."
R.P "OF COURSE IT AFFECTS GREEN-CARD HOLDERS!"

Dr. Faustus fucked around with this message at 18:31 on Feb 1, 2017

# ? Feb 1, 2017 18:24

Shbobdb: Dec 16, 2010; by Reene

Julio Cruz posted:

Whenever I see this I always wonder how the gently caress Hungary managed to get on that list.

Judeo-Bolshevism.

# ? Feb 1, 2017 18:25

Ambitious Spider: Feb 13, 2012; Lipstick Apathy

Dr. Faustus posted:

I can think of at least two people in the news from Saturday who were loving furious and devastated by the travel ban. The reason? They had sponsored Syrian refugee families and those families had been turned away. They had prepared homes and jobs for these folks and just wanted to welcome them into their communities.
This administration and its supporters are a daily shock to what's left of my heart.

The best I can do is look on the bright side at the people (protesters, and Sally Q. Yates) who are at least not taking this poo poo sitting down.

gently caress these assholes who are running this administration and triple-gently caress the people who like it.

I don't think it's worth it.

You made a good point about Reince, but I watched that interview on MTP Sunday and he didn't just contradict anyone else, he contradicted himself. He did a full 180 in just two questions. It went like so:
R.P. "This order doesn't affect green-card holders."
C.T. "There are green-card holders in detention and being deported."
R.P "OF COURSE IT AFFECTS GREEN-CARD HOLDERS!"

It's better with follow up:

CT: so it does affect them?

RP:no it doesn't.

Ct:well which is it?

RP:maybe you wouldn't be confused if you stopped asking questions and listened Todd!

And by better, I meant worse

# ? Feb 1, 2017 19:00

Who What Now: Sep 10, 2006; by Azathoth

Shalebridge Cradle posted:

It's my understanding that Judaism has a long proud tradition of rules lawyering god. I even remember hearing one story where God was proud his children were clever enough to come up with a loophole. Fair warning though I'm not Jewish.

If we're thinking of the same story, it wasn't that the rabbis found any loopholes, it's that one rabbi was arguing for one interpretation of the laws and all the others were arguing against it. The lone rabbi kept declaring that if he were right then may [miracle] happen to prove it, whereupon the miracle would immediately happen (I think a river ran backwards and trees lept into the sky), while the others would ignore it and say that didn't count as a real argument. Eventually God himself said in a booming voice "HE IS RIGHT AND YOU ARE WRONG", whereupon the head rabbi told god to butt out because he wasn't part of the official debate.

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Ainsley McTree: Feb 19, 2004

Unless you're prepared to perform roles that are the responsibility of the government you shouldn't ciriticize the government

In my darker moments I dream about doing some kind of Black Mirror situation where a swarm of robo-bees massacres everyone who's ever unironically participated in #TCOT or whatever

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Shalebridge Cradle: Apr 23, 2008

Ainsley McTree posted:

In my darker moments I dream about doing some kind of Black Mirror situation where a swarm of robo-bees massacres everyone who's ever unironically participated in #TCOT or whatever

Don't dream it, bee it.

# ? Feb 1, 2017 19:31

Keeshhound: Jan 14, 2010; Mad Duck Swagger

Who What Now posted:

If we're thinking of the same story, it wasn't that the rabbis found any loopholes, it's that one rabbi was arguing for one interpretation of the laws and all the others were arguing against it. The lone rabbi kept declaring that if he were right then may [miracle] happen to prove it, whereupon the miracle would immediately happen (I think a river ran backwards and trees lept into the sky), while the others would ignore it and say that didn't count as a real argument. Eventually God himself said in a booming voice "HE IS RIGHT AND YOU ARE WRONG", whereupon the head rabbi told god to butt out because he wasn't part of the official debate.

It's a pity that story never became part of the official cannon, because I would love nothing more than to be able to point out to every fundamentalist who ever lived that even God agrees that "Because God says so" is not a valid argument.

# ? Feb 1, 2017 20:12

RagnarokAngel: Oct 5, 2006; Black Magic Extraordinaire

Fundies only care about Jewish law when it's convienant though that wouldn't stop them.

# ? Feb 1, 2017 20:57

Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

Rabbinic Judaism is basically the evolution of the Pharisees of Second Temple Judaism, who Jesus condemned for caring more about the letter of the law than about being a good person and following God in the New Testament, so even if The Oven of Akhnai was canon in scripture they'd just point to that to nullify it. And then ignore the bit about being a good person.

('Pharisee' is also currently used as an antisemitic slur by some modern Christians too, but I'm referring here to the school of thought that evolved into Rabbinical Judaism in the post-Temple era.)

Guavanaut fucked around with this message at 21:05 on Feb 1, 2017

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Jurgan: May 8, 2007; Just pour it directly into your gaping mouth-hole you decadent slut

RagnarokAngel posted:

Well the Talmud puts an official moratorium on sacrifices until such a time that it comes back (i.e. its looking like 'never')

Right, but the Talmud itself is a collection of reinterpretations of the Torah.

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Goatse James Bond: Mar 28, 2010; If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

Found a live one on a friend's Facebook feed!

On Pope Francis doing some nice thing or other:

quote:

That marxist piece of trash who stole the Papacy by intrigue is using Christian doctrine to destroy the west by helping to radicalize and legitimize a Jihadist army bent on destroying both the West and Islamic faith in the world. This is sickening - all so that Jesuit, working every foul scheme to subjugate all Nations to kiss the slipper toe of the Pope. The Jesuit order brought us Communism, and has been at war against Nation States and the true Reformation for half a millennia. Catholics, good honest loving people at the parishioner level, but the Jesuits - wholly corrupt, evil, ungodly law breakers engaged in a masquerade that will be uncloaked as the end times unfold.

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