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I don't necessarily mean in this thread, just in general, has anyone come across folks who hold Troy Denning up as one of the best?
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pubic works project posted:Not me. I prefer Stover, Luceno, and Zahn. Oh and Stackpole! Not Allston? S M D H.
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I used to think Denning was great. At that point I'd only read his NJO entries, and was young enough to think that they were gritty and mature. Then I grew up, tried to read his other stuff and realised the truth.
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Feb 1, 2017 23:15
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VAGENDA OF MANOCIDE posted:Not Allston? S M D H. Did he write Wraith Squadron? Yeah he's okay.
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Wheat Loaf posted:I don't necessarily mean in this thread, just in general, has anyone come across folks who hold Troy Denning up as one of the best? Also there seem to be idiots on TFN who liked the direction the EU was goibg towards the end. The direction almost entirely dictated by Denning. There was that thread were they debated whether Tahiri raped Ben in the most sensitive way they knew how.
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I don't know if I know anyone who loves Denning but I do know there are people who love Star by Star and Tatooine Ghost. Also even near the end on TFN the rate and review threads for his books would still be in the 7-8/10 range, but then again that is a site where the ability to be critical about things is pretty difficult to grasp.
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Tatooine Ghost is pretty good. It's hard to reconcile it with his other works in terms of quality.
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It takes place right before the Thrawn Trilogy so I've always sort of thought it rode on its coattails a bit. It's also weird in that it was the first EU book to start acknowledging stuff from the prequels that wasn't specifically tied to them.
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Casimir Radon posted:It takes place right before the Thrawn Trilogy so I've always sort of thought it rode on its coattails a bit. It's also weird in that it was the first EU book to start acknowledging stuff from the prequels that wasn't specifically tied to them. It's also an example for people who think EU coordination only started after Marvel and Disney took over, given that Tatooine Ghost gets directly referenced and kind of resolved at the end of Unifying Force which came out a few months later.
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Add my name on the Agreeing with Lord Hydronium's NJO opinion list and the Goddamn Denning list. Star by Star is a bit like early Traviss; okay within its context but already showing the portents of disaster. It's interesting to think about the publishings eras' evolving ups and downs. Proto-EU: hilariously wacky and creative stuff, but complete lack of coordination and frequently just plain weird or horribly dated; Early EU: most memorable and enduring elements, but redundancy problem and occasional big missteps; Old Republic: oscillates between totally out there and OT/PT knockoff; NJO: ambitious, original and coordinated but creaking at the seams from the sheer size, along with some questionable overall choices; Prequels: some pretty good setups having to conform to a wildly changing media landscape; Post-NJO: ...Allston makes some good jokes?
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I just read Bloodline (Not as good as Lost Stars, better than most of the old EU), and it got me thinking. Other than Tattooine Ghost, was there ever much in the old EU focusing mainly on Leia? I couldn't think of much off the top of my head.
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cptn_dr posted:I just read Bloodline (Not as good as Lost Stars, better than most of the old EU), and it got me thinking. Other than Tattooine Ghost, was there ever much in the old EU focusing mainly on Leia? I couldn't think of much off the top of my head. There was The Courtship of Princess Leia but honestly the less said about that the better.
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Dark Nest made a big deal about how Leia was going to complete her training and start being a full-time Jedi but I don't think anything ever really came of it.
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Lemniscate Blue posted:There was The Courtship of Princess Leia but honestly the less said about that the better. Dammit, I was going to make this exact post. Yeah, Leia didn't get the focus all that often. There was some stuff with her and the Senate in The New Rebellion, I think, but not much. Bloodline was a refreshing change of pace.
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Sure, Leia is variously president of the New Republic or Mon Mothma's vice-president for a pretty decent-sized chunk of the post-ROTJ EU up to NJO. When you've got that constraint, I imagine it's hard to write stories where she goes off with Han, Luke, Chewie, Lando et al. on space adventures. The New Republic secret service would have fits, for one thing. I imagine it's also why the New Republic ended up getting pretty rubbish pretty fast; writers needed to create some conflict for Leia to deal with while Luke was taking care of Jedi business and Han was getting into blaster fights in seedy underworld cantinas, so you ended up with the New Republic senate being either hopelessly corrupt or constantly trying to undermine Leia's position.
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Maybe the Black Fleet Crisis? It's one of the only times we see her as an actual chief of state. Edit; Bloodlines is probably the best book written about Leia, in old canon or new. VaultAggie fucked around with this message at 15:55 on Feb 3, 2017 |
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VaultAggie posted:Maybe the Black Fleet Crisis? It's one of the only times we see her as an actual chief of state. Is that the one where they bomb the Senate? I thought that was The New Rebellion, which is why I mentioned it above, but I may be getting my lovely old EU books confused. VaultAggie posted:Edit; Bloodlines is probably the best book written about Leia, in old canon or new. Well that's easily true.
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New Rebellion is the one where they bomb the senate. Black Fleet is the one with the Yevetha.
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Not solely Leia but Millennium Falcon is at least half Leia, Han, and their granddaughter investigating the history of the Falcon.
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Wheat Loaf posted:Dark Nest made a big deal about how Leia was going to complete her training and start being a full-time Jedi but I don't think anything ever really came of it.
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That's one thing that really disappointed me when I got into the novels. I'd only read the Essential Guide to Characters which mentions fairly obliquely how Leia started learning how to use the Force and I assumed she would then be Luke's first apprentice, but when I actually began reading the novels a few years after that, I thought it was a bit rubbish that she never really had all that much to do with the Jedi. Disappointed me a bit when I was younger. Off the top of my head, the only times she ever has a lightsabre duel are in Planet of Twilight where she fights that Hutt (!) Jedi, and I think she briefly crosses swords with Kueller in The New Rebellion? Not too sure about the last one.
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I can understand why Leia never went in for sword fighting, but why did she never try to learn about the Force to any great extent? Pre-cognition, intuition, and the ability to sense the emotional state of others sounds like a cheat code for any politician.
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SeanBeansShako posted:I keep picturing a cardboard box witb LEIA JEDI STUFF emblazened on the side in marker pen filled with a lightsaber and a few other random odds and ends for some reason. There's a similar one for Chewie that just has nothing in it.
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Remember that time Chewie and his creepy son rescued Han from the Space Nazis? No the other Space Nazis.
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Casimir Radon posted:Remember that time Chewie and his creepy son rescued Han from the Space Nazis? No the other Space Nazis. The Principality of Zeon?
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Gammatron 64 posted:The Principality of Zeon? The Titans?
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Any Jedi wookies out there? Seems like they could just forgoe the lightsaber stuff and start ripping arms off...
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Canemacar posted:Any Jedi wookies out there? Seems like they could just forgoe the lightsaber stuff and start ripping arms off... Lowbacca
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Feb 4, 2017 03:01
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And Gungi. He looks scary.
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Those embossed chromed Young Jedi Knights covers were the coolest goddamn thing when I was 8.
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Would you gently caress me? I'd gently caress me. I'd gently caress me so hard.
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On another subject entirely, apparently Barnes and Noble are going to be giving away two posters with the release of the third Aftermath novel. and 
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VAGENDA OF MANOCIDE posted:Would you gently caress me? I'd gently caress me. I'd gently caress me so hard. Some time around the Dark Nest trilogy Lucas said no more Wookie Jedi. So Lowie got banished to some planet for a while. They might have brought him back in LOTF, it kind of seems like they did. I'm starting to forget minor details of that series so that's a positive development.
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