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Spergatory: Oct 28, 2012

They actually have a really quick, cough-and-you'll-miss-it reference to Skaikru being genetically engineered in season 2, so I guess that was a thing in the Ark. Maybe that's part of it?

# ? Dec 31, 2016 15:54

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# ? May 17, 2024 14:02

Johnny Truant: Jul 22, 2008

Spergatory posted:

They actually have a really quick, cough-and-you'll-miss-it reference to Skaikru being genetically engineered in season 2, so I guess that was a thing in the Ark. Maybe that's part of it?

Oh poo poo I vaguely remember this! I just started s02 for the second time so I'll keep my eye out for this. I think it was the evil doctor lady in Mt Wx that mentions it?

But they developed radiation Resistance due to the solar radiation, that's totally a valid science thing! :hydrogen:

# ? Dec 31, 2016 17:00

TheCenturion: May 3, 2013; HI I LIKE TO GIVE ADVICE ON RELATIONSHIPS

It's a tv show. It needs its conceits.

# ? Dec 31, 2016 17:46

Rhyno: Mar 22, 2003; Can't post for 10 years!

TheCenturion posted:

It's a tv show. It needs its conceits.

Overthinking TEEVEE is the entire reason this sub forum exists.

# ? Dec 31, 2016 18:54

TheCenturion: May 3, 2013; HI I LIKE TO GIVE ADVICE ON RELATIONSHIPS

Rhyno posted:

Overthinking TEEVEE is the entire reason this sub forum exists.

True, but where we can have fun debate about the social evolution and what not, no, radiation doesn't work that way and that's that.

But ok. Commander's nanomachines help. All groundrers have some; nightbloods have tons.

# ? Dec 31, 2016 23:03

Astroman: Apr 8, 2001

The various methods of survival portrayed by the different elements we've seen so far (nanomachine blood and resistance over time by the grounders, space radiation and possible genetic engineering by the Arkers, and hiding underground by the Mountain Men) are interesting. What I hope we see next season is even more of that, and finding new and interesting pockets of humanity who have survived in their own perhaps different ways. Particularly if they have to go on some quest to shut down nuke plants all over the world. It'd be nice to get away from the greater VA/Maryland area and see more of the world.

# ? Jan 1, 2017 15:36

INH5: Dec 17, 2012; Error: file not found.

Elias_Maluco posted:

Well, no. Then again, the entire premise is flawed. It's simply not possible to develop resistance to radiation the way one develops resistance to iocane powder.

Actually, while the degree of radiation resistance depicted in this show is most definitely impossible, some degree of adaptive or evolved radiation resistance does seem to be possible in real life humans. From a study performed on residents of Ramsar, Iran, which has the highest natural background radiation levels of any known inhabited place on Earth:

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An in vitro challenge dose of 1.5 Gy of gamma rays was administered to the lymphocytes, which showed significantly reduced frequency for chromosome aberrations of people living in high background compared to those in normal background areas in and near Ramsar. Specifically, inhabitants of high background radiation areas had about 56% the average number of induced chromosomal abnormalities of normal background radiation area inhabitants following this exposure. This suggests that adaptive response might be induced by chronic exposure to natural background radiation as opposed to acute exposure to higher (tens of mGy) levels of radiation in the laboratory.

There have also been some studies of wildlife in the Chernobyl Exclusion Zone that seem to show that at least some of the animals in the area have started to evolve to be more resistant to radiation.

# ? Jan 2, 2017 22:58

The Mash: Feb 17, 2007; You have to say I can open my presents

Am I the only one who hopes that Ghengis Clarke kills literally everyone by the end of season 4?

# ? Jan 23, 2017 17:29

Elias_Maluco: Aug 23, 2007; I need to sleep

Bellamy will kill half of everyone in some stupid irrational betrayal, and them everyone else will forgive him immediately and blame it on Clarke instead

# ? Jan 23, 2017 17:38

TyrantWD: Nov 6, 2010; Ignore my doomerism, I don't think better things are possible

enraged_camel posted:

It's actually quite plausible.

The vast majority of the world's knowledge today is stored on computers, most of which would either have been destroyed or rendered useless after a nuclear war. The remainder would have lasted for at most a few decades without proper maintenance before reaching a non-working state. Same with books, most of which tend to be stored in libraries (in towns and cities) and various learning centers (also in towns and cities).

The overwhelming majority of the world's experts would have perished during the initial nuclear exchange, where bombs would definitely have targeted major population centers where those experts tend to congregate. The surviving experts would prioritize the acquisition of basic resources (food, water, shelter) and over time would lose most of their technical skills and knowledge (due to not having the need or the opportunity to use them. It's hard to practice biochemistry if you don't have a lab.)

The most likely survivors of nuclear war would be those living in rural or remote areas furthest removed from population centers. Such people tend to specialize in the least advanced sectors of the economy such as agriculture, forestry, hunting and mining.

Due to scarcity of basic resources, constant exposure to the elements (especially radiation) and lack of modern medicine, the average life span for survivors would be quite low -- probably 30-40 years. This means that, after ~100 years, the chances of someone whose grandparents would remember what it was like before the bombs fell would be zilch.

Over a period of ~100 years (four generations), you're quite likely to end up with small to medium-sized tribes with technology levels of societies circa the first millennia. Any sort of pre-war technology they come across would be, as someone once said, indistinguishable from magic, and therefore become religion (just like with the shrine to the Commander in Polis).

There is a reason Einstein said that the fourth world war would most likely be fought with sticks and stones. He understood the fragile nature of society's technological state and the way a nuclear war would devastate most if not all of it. The show simply takes place in such a setting, and once you logically work through the most likely consequences of nuclear war you'll find it quite realistic.

Agreed. Even if we assume that a lot of the survivors were originally from the DC area, and were probably in nuclear shelters - hence their access to Hazmat suits, what would parents be teaching the first generation of kids born into the post-war world? Some history of the world before, but mostly practical skills that are needed to survive in the new world. You are probably not passing on your knowledge of managerial accounting, or coding in java. By the time the second generation was born, they would probably be living the current grounder lifestyle minus some of the tribal rituals and traditions.

# ? Jan 23, 2017 19:12

isaboo: Nov 11, 2002; Muay Buok
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GENGHIS CLARKE RETURNS FOR SEASON 4 ON WEDNESDAY FEB 1ST

GET READY MOTHERFUCKERS

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# ? Jan 31, 2017 02:54

PizzaProwler: Nov 4, 2009; Or you can see me at The Riviera. Tuesday nights.
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The Mash posted:

Am I the only one who hopes that Ghengis Clarke kills literally everyone by the end of season 4?

This is one of the many reasons I keep coming back to the show. I wanna see just how bananas she'll go, and then I wanna see how she can justify it.

# ? Jan 31, 2017 12:10

Zebulon: Aug 20, 2005; Oh god why does it burn?!

Things are off to a pretty amazing start so far.

Didn't see anyone make a season 4 thread yet, so are we staying here for now?

# ? Feb 2, 2017 03:15

Rocksicles: Oct 19, 2012; by Nyc_Tattoo

YES OCTAVIA!!!!!!

Ahhh The 100 , eases the pain.

# ? Feb 2, 2017 04:45

Rhyno: Mar 22, 2003; Can't post for 10 years!

Well hel-loooooo Clarke and that corset you're wearing.

# ? Feb 2, 2017 07:04

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more like BOLLOCKnese

I was all ready for hot 100 action but it wasn't up on Amazon Video in UK time :argh:

# ? Feb 2, 2017 10:44

bentacos: Oct 9, 2012

I was kind of hoping that Jasper would pull the trigger.

# ? Feb 2, 2017 14:29

Elias_Maluco: Aug 23, 2007; I need to sleep

So, season 4 is already started?

# ? Feb 2, 2017 16:41

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK: Sep 11, 2001

bentacos posted:

I was kind of hoping that Jasper would pull the trigger.

I'm guessing that he will find some reason to live THEN die / get murdered in the finale.

# ? Feb 2, 2017 21:39

Rhyno: Mar 22, 2003; Can't post for 10 years!

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:

I'm guessing that he will find some reason to live THEN die / get murdered in the finale.

No reason to kill yourself if the world will do it for you in 6 months anyways.

# ? Feb 2, 2017 22:18

muscles like this!: Jan 17, 2005

I think they should stop subtitling the Grounder talk, it is pretty much completely understandable as is now.

# ? Feb 3, 2017 04:03

Astroman: Apr 8, 2001

Rhyno posted:

Well hel-loooooo Clarke and that corset you're wearing.

Earth Cleavage is still extant even as the world is ending (again)!

Also love that Murphy still takes time out to poo poo on Jaha. :allears:

Yes Jaha, this is literally all your fault!

It seems that Kane is back in charge, with Pike dead, Jaha jahaing, and Abbie is deferring to him too. He was the best of the Chancellors, though not perfect.

# ? Feb 3, 2017 05:37

Zebulon: Aug 20, 2005; Oh god why does it burn?!

Astroman posted:

Earth Cleavage is still extant even as the world is ending (again)!

Also love that Murphy still takes time out to poo poo on Jaha.

Yes Jaha, this is literally all your fault!

It seems that Kane is back in charge, with Pike dead, Jaha jahaing, and Abbie is deferring to him too. He was the best of the Chancellors, though not perfect.

Taking the time to poo poo on Jaha was great, and it seems they just kind of defaulted back to what worked before, which was Kane with Abbie as support.

# ? Feb 3, 2017 08:22

ufarn: May 30, 2009

muscles like this! posted:

I think they should stop subtitling the Grounder talk, it is pretty much completely understandable as is now.

Subtitles are also for people with impaired hearing, though.

# ? Feb 3, 2017 11:53

hope and vaseline: Feb 13, 2001

Oh thank god the premiere was good. Just hope the showrunners fix the pacing issues this time around.

# ? Feb 3, 2017 15:28

Chuf: Jun 28, 2011; I had that weird dream again.

Last season was such a disappointing mish-mash of weird pacing and character choices but I'm still on board and ho-oly poo poo I remember why I love this show with the premiere: not 5 minutes in and yeah guess what? Clarke is responsible for loads more deaths! This is the 100 I know and love. More Clarke murders let's go! :black101:

# ? Feb 4, 2017 03:59

Caedus: Sep 11, 2007; It's good to have a sense of scale.

muscles like this! posted:

I think they should stop subtitling the Grounder talk, it is pretty much completely understandable as is now.

Wait that wasn't just me? Did they make it a little easier to understand or have I actually picked up on Grounder syntax? :psyduck:

# ? Feb 4, 2017 06:41

Boris Galerkin: Dec 17, 2011; I don't understand why I can't harass people online. Seriously, somebody please explain why I shouldn't be allowed to stalk others on social media!

I feel like they changed it yeah. There were a few instances where I heard what they said and then read it and it made sense. I could have probably understood it without reading it if they maybe spoke a bit slower or if I was more exposed to it.

# ? Feb 4, 2017 11:26

ufarn: May 30, 2009

I'm kinda glad there's no new outsider villain this time around, but Echo's not a very interesting character. I hope she doesn't become too central to the plot.

Zach McGowan is great, though, but maybe that's my Shameless bias at work.

# ? Feb 4, 2017 13:22

Astroman: Apr 8, 2001

Boris Galerkin posted:

I feel like they changed it yeah. There were a few instances where I heard what they said and then read it and it made sense. I could have probably understood it without reading it if they maybe spoke a bit slower or if I was more exposed to it.

I still need the subtitles. I understand it after the fact, like I'll hear it, read the subtitles, and say "oh that makes sense I see what they were saying" but I can't follow it when I hear it alone. I could probably read it and suss it out though.

# ? Feb 4, 2017 13:35

ufarn: May 30, 2009

There were a bunch of lines in the episdode that were changed from Trigedasleng to English.

# ? Feb 4, 2017 14:04

hope and vaseline: Feb 13, 2001

Really liking how the focus has shifted full circle to the kids facing the same choices the adults had to make in space. Season continues on an upward tick and this is back to being one of my favorite shows.

# ? Feb 9, 2017 14:59

MiddleOne: Feb 17, 2011

What is even their plan here? Hole up in the derelict remains and hope the grounders die before they realize what is up?

# ? Feb 9, 2017 15:07

Open Source Idiom: Jan 4, 2013

How long are they even planning on living in those ships! And what's to stop them all turning into Mountain Men, mark II?

(Also, the writers must have some other plan in mind to resolving this crisis -- I can't see Season 5 being set after a 100 year time jump, or being set entirely inside the downed spaceships, no matter how much money they'd be able to save on exteriors.)

# ? Feb 9, 2017 15:45

ShakeZula: Jun 17, 2003; Nobody move and nobody gets hurt.

Open Source Idiom posted:

How long are they even planning on living in those ships! And what's to stop them all turning into Mountain Men, mark II?

(Also, the writers must have some other plan in mind to resolving this crisis -- I can't see Season 5 being set after a 100 year time jump, or being set entirely inside the downed spaceships, no matter how much money they'd be able to save on exteriors.)

I think they were tossing around 5 years as the amount of time they'd need to live in the ships. Not sure where they got that, but it stuck out to me when they said it.

# ? Feb 9, 2017 15:49

Boris Galerkin: Dec 17, 2011; I don't understand why I can't harass people online. Seriously, somebody please explain why I shouldn't be allowed to stalk others on social media!

MiddleOne posted:

What is even their plan here? Hole up in the derelict remains and hope the grounders die before they realize what is up?

They literally said the plan.

Plan A is to save everybody. There is no Plan A yet.

Plan B is to repair the Ark so that at least they'll be safe from the coming meltdown radiation if they don't figure out a Plan A.

# ? Feb 9, 2017 19:34

A good poster: Jan 10, 2010

Boris Galerkin posted:

They literally said the plan.

Plan A is to save everybody. There is no Plan A yet.

Plan B is to repair the Ark so that at least they'll be safe from the coming meltdown radiation if they don't figure out a Plan A.

And Plan B just got hosed since they got a couple dozen more mouths to feed and lost the ability to manufacture water.

# ? Feb 10, 2017 03:54

Combat Pretzel: Jun 23, 2004; No, seriously... what kurds?!

The do-gooder lack of foresight gets tiresome.

# ? Feb 10, 2017 04:26

Caedus: Sep 11, 2007; It's good to have a sense of scale.

I'm digging Nihilist Jasper. Zero fucks left to give, is literally laughing at his own death. I also enjoy how they use his batshit singing to introduce whatever song they're going with for the episode.

The only way I will accept another Radioactive remix is if it's sung exclusively by Jasper, acapella in it's entirety. While Clarke looks on, dreaming of murder and Monty wears his 'poo poo jasper's lost it again' look the entire time.

# ? Feb 10, 2017 05:51

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# ? May 17, 2024 14:02

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK: Sep 11, 2001

A good poster posted:

And Plan B just got hosed since they got a couple dozen more mouths to feed and lost the ability to manufacture water.

Bellamy just can't stop loving up.

At least Ocativia is smart enough to figure out that murder is the answer :ese:

# ? Feb 10, 2017 06:11

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