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http://edition.cnn.com/2017/02/03/asia/us-defense-secretary-mattis-japan-visit/quote:US Defense Secretary James Mattis on Saturday reaffirmed Washington's commitment to defending Japan, including a group of disputed islands which have been claimed by China. BOUT TO GET LIT UP IN HUR EDIT: No it's not. LOL Haier fucked around with this message at 18:08 on Feb 4, 2017 |
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Haier posted:http://edition.cnn.com/2017/02/03/asia/us-defense-secretary-mattis-japan-visit/ Good. Only a really good war against a brown or yellow enemy will unify this country.
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Feb 4, 2017 19:27
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OctaviusBeaver posted:The Dalai Lama is visiting USCD and the Chinese students are massively triggered. I understand they're just toeing the party line, but didn't the Dalai Lama in fact have slaves and serfs and punishments involving the gouging out of eyes?
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Feb 4, 2017 19:56
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I don't know, did he?
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OctaviusBeaver posted:The Dalai Lama is visiting USCD and the Chinese students are massively triggered. Hey China isn't actually bad. Those people who say it's bad? They're just lying, to escape china at any cost, for some reason. There, mystery solved.
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Beachcomber posted:I understand they're just toeing the party line, but didn't the Dalai Lama in fact have slaves and serfs and punishments involving the gouging out of eyes? The current Dalai Lama was never in charge of Tibet as far as I know, so no. His predecessor did but it's hard to believe he was worse than Mao.
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OctaviusBeaver posted:The current Dalai Lama was never in charge of Tibet as far as I know, so no. His predecessor did but it's hard to believe he was worse than Mao. Yeah, from the sources I've read it came across almost like a Buddhist Taliban to me at times. Even Seven Years in Tibet, ostensibly written by someone with pro-Tibetan leanings, didn't make it out to be all that great a place from a human rights perspective. Not that the PRC in Tibet is a shining bastion of human rights, mind you.
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Surprisingly a theocracy isn't the greatest place to live, who knew. The current dude has been nothing but chill of course, though I'm sad to see that it isn't until you get to the 70-ish likes that you get a bit of sense, hah.
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Mameluke posted:poo poo like this is why Korea belongs in the China thread and not the Japan thread i wouldn't be especially surprised to see a movie like that come out of japan today, let alone half a century ago. hell, even out of America or Europe half a century ago. it being stated that way so explicitly was hilarious though, I think at least it'd be a bit more coy in the west. Koramei fucked around with this message at 22:12 on Feb 4, 2017 |
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I've been called a pro-chinese genocide apologist for ever pointing out that pre-chinese tibet actually was a horrific theocracy. Doesn't make what china did right any more than Ukraine's current government being run by outright criminals robbing the country blind makes a russian invasion ok. But some people, specially in the west, have this idea that pre-chinese tibet was this peaceful Buddhist utopia because Buddhism = really chill good people who do no wrong.
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Feb 4, 2017 22:05
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Justifying it with that in mind is basically just a repeat of the European colonial "have a civilized power modernize and uplift them for their own good" argument is the thing. I don't think Tibet having been horrific precludes criticism of China's actions there 70 years later. Although yeah people are pretty naive when it comes to Buddhism. I still hear the laughable "no Buddhist state has ever waged a war of aggression" thing from time to time, even.
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I'm not at all surprised to hear that a secluded theocracy in the 1940s had a terrible human rights record. Using that to compare the current Dalai Lama to Osama bin Laden is hilarious. Doing that while ignoring that the PRC still has a terrible human rights record in the present day is just pure Chinar gold.
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OctaviusBeaver posted:The Dalai Lama is visiting USCD and the Chinese students are massively triggered. Oh my God I can't even Ahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahaha Seriously, thank you for this Ahahahhahahahhahaha
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Baronjutter posted:I've been called a pro-chinese genocide apologist for ever pointing out that pre-chinese tibet actually was a horrific theocracy. Doesn't make what china did right any more than Ukraine's current government being run by outright criminals robbing the country blind makes a russian invasion ok. But some people, specially in the west, have this idea that pre-chinese tibet was this peaceful Buddhist utopia because Buddhism = really chill good people who do no wrong. I wonder what they do when you mention the ethnic cleansings in Burma.
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On the list of problems i have with the ccp, annexing tibet isn't one of them.
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maybe the truth is somewhere in the middle... kingdom
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the entire world thinks this one thing, but everyone in china actually knows the truth. you can never understand, because you are not a chinese, but let me assure you, we are correct, and you are wrong.
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Jenny Gao posted:Just want to ask what this school is thinking right now! Firstly, UCSD is one of the universities where have the most Chinese International Students. Although UCSD sneakily hides our population among the Asians, inviting this evil person inevitably shows that this school treats the Chinese international students, who are paying the highest tuition fees, unfairly and disrespectfully! Think about what you guys respond to Trump, and now You do this sh*tty thing to us? Why there is no understanding and communication when the school makes such awful decisions? #thefirsttimenotfeelingproudofbeingatriton Leah Xu posted:What the actual fk! Guess all the Chinese students are not looking forward to this stupid bullshit brainwashing speech giving in our campus Jialiang Zhou posted:And u fcking charge us 14k dollars tuition fee each QUARTER, and increase it every year, and do this shiiiiiiiiit to us?
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I'm not a big fan of a theocratic monarchy but anything that's bad for China has to be good for the world long term.
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The Dali Lama visited UBC last year and the whole event was a big fundraiser for displaced Tibetans. UBC's main reason for existing right now is separating rich chinese students from their money, so there was a lot of hurt feelings. That chinese funded group that says he's actually the devil and tibetan buddhism is a LIE and GENOCIDE and he's WORSE THAN HITLER was out in full force there too protesting and trying to cause a scene outside the stadium. I love how the moment chinese funding for that cult dried up they all pretty much vanished. Even at UBC 99% of the protesters were crusty white people. Useful idiots.
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The Great Autismo! posted:the entire world thinks this one thing, but everyone in china actually knows the truth. you can never understand, because you are not a chinese, but let me assure you, we are correct, and you are wrong.
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i am not a chinese so i cannot comment
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big time bisexual posted:maybe the truth is somewhere in the middle... kingdom
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The best joke in the world is: "A billion and a half Chinese people can't be wrong!"
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Mameluke posted:poo poo like this is why Korea belongs in the China thread and not the Japan thread Korea and Japan are so much more sexist and chauvinist, especially then but even now. Sheep-Goats posted:I'm not a big fan of a theocratic monarchy but anything that's bad for China has to be good for the world long term. Some of those ain't ever happening but that doesn't mean agitation for it is bad, which is why the whole anti-Tibetan thing is loving absurd.
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They aren't even asking for independence any more, just meaningful autonomy. There is basically no point in trying to debate though.
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Deceitful Penguin posted:Say what you want about Chinese cinema for most of its early period; that it was mostly propaganda (true), that it was boring and bad (true all too often) but drat, if they didn't at least pretend to think that women were people. Yeah relatively greater gender equality seems to be the single good thing to have come out of the CCP. Even in North Korea it's atrocious.
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There were some Chinese replies on that FB post about how the Chinese government was negating people's diploma's from schools where the Dalai visited. LOL. What kind of lame gossip is that? That's probably why many of them are so riled up. Has anyone pointed out the irony of them practicing free speech and protesting using a website that's been banned in their own country because it allows them free speech and protesting?
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I know Americans do it too but from what I've seen itt the Chinese are so behind on this whole fake "funny" viral clip thing it's...well, not funny I look forward to them filling the naval and humor gap by 2080 assuming society as we know it still sorta exists
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Haier posted:RELATED:
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OK, a China question.How would I navigate from Hong Kong to Jiangmen? I thought initially via Macau, but doubling up on paperwork isn't the best idea and that comes with some other restrictions, so I figure I go through Guangzhou which I believe has a direct line from Hong Kong before taking another train in to Jiangmen proper. After that It would more than likely be up to the brides' relative to pick me up from the station. Also cn I get a quick HK cultural primer? Last time I was there I hosed it up on every level, especially gift giving which is just ???. This is mostly dealing with older relatives rather than rando people. After reading this thread I have a pretty good idea how to act in China which will basically be "Don't rock the boat and cause lose of face" for the day or two I am up there. I also have PM now so if someone would like to have a meet up in Hong Kong I would be more than happy to do so and go to some of the places mentioned in this thread on occasion.
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Koramei posted:Yeah relatively greater gender equality seems to be the single good thing to have come out of the CCP. Even in North Korea it's atrocious. Interesting, but of somewhat limited use unless you actually want to discuss Neo-Confucian influence on the Koreas. As for good things from the CCP, I'd also cite widespread literacy as something, but that's rather faint praise. They did do a lot of good work in Africa and, well, they still kinda do, it's just not as inarguably good. Punkin Spunkin posted:I know Americans do it too but from what I've seen itt the Chinese are so behind on this whole fake "funny" viral clip thing it's...well, not funny It's kinda remarkable. The Japanese definitely have done some funny stuff and supposedly the Koreans as well but China just lags absolutely behind them in this.
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Deceitful Penguin posted:I have never seen a good Chinese comedy that didn't use something else as a crutch (usually kung-fu or wuxia stuff). A german language textbook once lied to me and said that germans actually love to laugh, and adore slapstick above all else. What's a ridiculously over simplistic explanation of what the Chinese find funny so I can have wrong ideas about more countries?
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Krinkle posted:A german language textbook once lied to me and said that germans actually love to laugh, and adore slapstick above all else. What's a ridiculously over simplistic explanation of what the Chinese find funny so I can have wrong ideas about more countries? I've always heard that the french love Jerry Lewis. Why just the french? Why Jerry Lewis?  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elTYN1LyMGw
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Krinkle posted:A german language textbook once lied to me and said that germans actually love to laugh, and adore slapstick above all else. What's a ridiculously over simplistic explanation of what the Chinese find funny so I can have wrong ideas about more countries? also it wasn't a complete lie: you just weren't looking in the right part of Germany, the good parts are full of laughter, joy and pratfalls, with wonderful weather and good food The north, of course, is full of over-serious blowhards or intolerably artsy libertines but if you go to the south, there you have people that work hard, party hard and laugh very, very hard at slapstick (good part starts 3 min in)
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Deceitful Penguin posted:I mean, if you believe in the idea of national determination, then you believe in a state for Basques, Tibetans and Kurds and I don't really see anything wrong with that. I don't know if I do or not in that I find states based around some kind of ethnic identity to generally be fascistic and disgusting, even if we're talking minority ethnicities. What's worse than that though is some unicultural retard state drawing its boundaries around another and then stamping out what differentiation exists in the encircled people. That's a pre-1900s kinda thing and it shouldn't be going on in 2017. I will grant you that the Chinese are probably the least horribly sexist nation in Asia, so good on China for that. Now if they could work on their disgusting selfishness and materialism we might have something going. raton fucked around with this message at 08:13 on Feb 5, 2017 |
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Krinkle posted:A german language textbook once lied to me and said that germans actually love to laugh, and adore slapstick above all else. What's a ridiculously over simplistic explanation of what the Chinese find funny so I can have wrong ideas about more countries? I bought some VCDs when I was in China that turned out to be several episodes of what I think was a state sponsored show that involved Chinese little people doing gags, prat falls, and "lol I'm a midget look what I can get away with physically that taller people can't" bits while in costumes. One of the market stalls had it on their TV all the time so I guess it was a big seller. Also every DVD stall in every corner of Asia has Mr. Bean DVDs. raton fucked around with this message at 08:14 on Feb 5, 2017 |
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There's adverts for a movie called something like Funniest Top Comedians all over the place at the moment that has some fat guys pulling stupid faces and Mr Bean in it.
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