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Coolguye
Jul 6, 2011

Required by his programming!
does point defense work against physical torpedoes right now?

i know it's been ambiguously bugged for half of eternity, and my next target is using torpedoes on his corvettes.

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GlyphGryph
Jun 23, 2013

Down came the glitches and burned us in ditches and we slept after eating our dead.

Rakthar posted:

I'm glad that I get to read a recounting of the argument you had on reddit arguing about the same old labels that have been discussed since release, as well as explaining that your position is the right one because you are not a crazy person.

These are new labels actually

Anticheese
Feb 13, 2008

$60,000,000 sexbot
:rodimus:



:ferengi:

Dirty Frank
Jul 8, 2004


:usa:

Coolguye
Jul 6, 2011

Required by his programming!

Coolguye posted:

does point defense work against physical torpedoes right now?

i know it's been ambiguously bugged for half of eternity, and my next target is using torpedoes on his corvettes.

answer: YUP

those torp corvettes did not stand a loving chance

Coolguye
Jul 6, 2011

Required by his programming!

Coolguye posted:

great idea. i have about 15 destroyers that are currently configured with PD because the last war included approximately all the missiles, but i can have them refitted in a couple of days. i also have the red lasers card locked in from pirate debris so i can research that to clap on the cruisers. no angle on blue lasers right now but for a fight like this it shouldn't matter.

this is the last guy i need to subdue and vassalize before my galactic neighborhood is all under my heel; after that the local democratic crusader has shown up so I will need to go into hardcore building mode to catch up.

fwiw dudes having done this for 4 games now I very highly recommend a first contact war if you see your closest neighbor is using missiles. all you need to do is hold them bottled in their home system until you get PD destroyers and there is basically no way you can lose at that point. having an early vassal is really nice because when the rest of the neighborhood lights up they implicitly accept that this race has always been sucking your dick and they don't really question it at all. my current game i vassalized my first opponent in 2228 and it owned.

battle report here:

2.7k of 9 cruisers and 15 destroyers outfitted with heavy armor and blue lasers (got lucky on the card draw) obliterated 4k worth of corvettes and first-generation destroyers (which followed the same ethos as the corvettes but had PD) and took a grand total of 2 destroyer and 1 cruiser loss

it was a glorious slaughter

thank you thread

RabidWeasel
Aug 4, 2007

Cultures thrive on their myths and legends...and snuggles!

These are new buildings right?

Psychotic Weasel
Jun 24, 2004

Bang! You're dead.

RabidWeasel posted:

These are new buildings right?

I think they're just renamed Power Plants and Power Hubs.

Good to know that in the future power stations and high tension lines also double as temples and sacred ground for neoliberals though.

Psychotic Weasel fucked around with this message at 23:52 on Feb 4, 2017

Back Hack
Jan 17, 2010


Man, I want to play Stellaris, but I don't want play it knowing there is a new update coming. Something about that kind of bothers me for some strange reason.

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

Back Hack posted:

Man, I want to play Stellaris, but I don't want play it knowing there is a new update coming. Something about that kind of bothers me for some strange reason.

Yeah I'm kinda holding my breath on the game too, even though it's potentially multi-months away.

Libluini
May 18, 2012

I gravitated towards the Greens, eventually even joining the party itself.

The Linke is a party I grudgingly accept exists, but I've learned enough about DDR-history I can't bring myself to trust a party that was once the SED, a party leading the corrupt state apparatus ...
Grimey Drawer
I know this feeling, I have like 2-3 games running right now, but the knowledge that there is this awesome new upgrade coming just sapped my will to play Stellaris. Welp, more time for my MO3-thread!

Psycho Landlord
Oct 10, 2012

What are you gonna do, dance with me?

Coolguye posted:

battle report here:

2.7k of 9 cruisers and 15 destroyers outfitted with heavy armor and blue lasers (got lucky on the card draw) obliterated 4k worth of corvettes and first-generation destroyers (which followed the same ethos as the corvettes but had PD) and took a grand total of 2 destroyer and 1 cruiser loss

it was a glorious slaughter

thank you thread

:hfive:

Punished Chuck
Dec 27, 2010

Back Hack posted:

Man, I want to play Stellaris, but I don't want play it knowing there is a new update coming. Something about that kind of bothers me for some strange reason.

I spend at least half of a Paradox game's life cycle not playing it because the next update seems so good that I'll just be disappointed at the current state of the game. CK2 and EU4 are only just now reaching the point where they're so insanely good that the next updates are just going to be neat rather than awesome and game-changing so I can play them without worry.

dioxazine
Oct 14, 2004

Back Hack posted:

Man, I want to play Stellaris, but I don't want play it knowing there is a new update coming. Something about that kind of bothers me for some strange reason.

I'm in the same boat. It's the anticipation that is preventing me from starting a new game. Lately, I've just been revisiting Stardew Valley and HOI4 to kill time.

Soup du Jour
Sep 8, 2011

I always knew I'd die with a headache.

Back Hack posted:

Man, I want to play Stellaris, but I don't want play it knowing there is a new update coming. Something about that kind of bothers me for some strange reason.

Forget what LPers will tell you, this is the real Paradox Curse.

CrazyTolradi
Oct 2, 2011

It feels so good to be so bad.....at posting.

Psychotic Weasel posted:

I think they're just renamed Power Plants and Power Hubs.

Good to know that in the future power stations and high tension lines also double as temples and sacred ground for neoliberals though.
Neoliberals in Australia worship coal power plants so you're actually spot on there.

Poil
Mar 17, 2007

Does anything good ever contain the word neo in the beginning?

PittTheElder
Feb 13, 2012

:geno: Yes, it's like a lava lamp.

Truga posted:

So here's a newbie question: How do I tell a sector to purge all the goddamn xenos? I set it to purge and it doesn't seem to be doing it at all.

Sadly you cannot. Worse, if you start purging them and then hand the planet to a sector, the sector will always cancel the purge (in my experience anyway). The Utopia expansion has a bunch of different fixes for this.

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

Poil posted:

Does anything good ever contain the word neo in the beginning?

Neodymium magnets are pretty cool!

Coolguye
Jul 6, 2011

Required by his programming!
it owns



current map of the galaxy right now. basically everything underneath my wormhole network except the large purple and blue empires in the very south of my reach are subservient to me at this point at 2282. i've moved fairly quick in terms of subjugating the neighborhood.

current plan is to sit back and focus inward for a bit because i FINALLY picked the terraforming card and i just spent almost 10k energy credits pushing all the marginal wet planets in my domain to continental. after that painfully long process finishes i'll be infesting another half-dozen planets in the first wave. in the meantime i need to knock over the last few holdouts in the galactic east and keep exploring the dark places, the entire galactic east will need to belong to me to give those advanced powers to the west a good fight.

the two FEs are the xenophile and the spiritualist, which is obnoxious because this is my Suffer Not the Alien run; the xenophile one will have a real problem with me purging half of my client nations, which was ostensibly my plan for a while.

of the advanced ones, i'm fortunately able to not worry about the star league; i'm using subconscious consensus for the happiness bonus, which made the star league like me enough for me to strike an NAP with them. so my actual problem in terms of wars and relations is the coalition of hyodor, which is spiritualist and inherently doesn't like me. fortunately, we have 2 of my vassals between his borders and mine so he's not immediately worried about me.

Coolguye fucked around with this message at 01:40 on Feb 5, 2017

NoNotTheMindProbe
Aug 9, 2010
pony porn was here

Poil posted:

Does anything good ever contain the word neo in the beginning?

Hmm... Neoliberal, Neonazi, Neo-Assyrian Empire, Neo from the Matrix...nope they're all poo poo

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Not a fan of neologisms.

Reading the thread is making me interested in this. I don't like the look of paradox mapgames generally but this looks sufficiently 4xey to make me like the look of it. Also it doesn't appear to be a MOO clone, which is good because I don't particularly like galciv/moo

Roland Jones
Aug 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo
Other Prosperity Traditions:

https://twitter.com/dmoregard/status/827969918914142208
https://twitter.com/dmoregard/status/827971990703185921
https://twitter.com/dmoregard/status/827981829273681921
https://twitter.com/dmoregard/status/827986089147248640

Capitalism, ho. Interesting (and appropriate) that private colony ships got moved here from Individualism; it didn't exactly make sense there and definitely wouldn't have made much sense in Egalitarianism.

Sarmhan
Nov 1, 2011

I'd imagine private colony ships have been reworked with the pop ethics changes.

Jeb Bush 2012
Apr 4, 2007

A mathematician, like a painter or poet, is a maker of patterns. If his patterns are more permanent than theirs, it is because they are made with ideas.

Poil posted:

Does anything good ever contain the word neo in the beginning?

the neo-Darwinian synthesis

Roland Jones
Aug 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo

Ein Sexmonster posted:

I'd imagine private colony ships have been reworked with the pop ethics changes.

Probably, yeah. Something to make them worth a whole Tradition selection, instead of just a tech. Especially since they're not in the expansion-focused tree, which is interesting now that I think about it.

Also, the guy posting what I've been linking confirmed that Energy Grids and Nexuses are renamed Power Hubs, so yeah, people who thought that were right.

Edit: Speaking of things moved from techs to traditions, I'm watching the uploaded version of the stream now and federations are under the Diplomacy tree now. That makes sense.

Roland Jones fucked around with this message at 06:12 on Feb 5, 2017

FISHMANPET
Mar 3, 2007

Sweet 'N Sour
Can't
Melt
Steel Beams
So what the hell am I supposed to do at the end of the game? Awakened Empire is big enough it can stomp my fleets and I can rebuild and just do it all over again and again and again, but even that takes a significant amount of time, even at Fastest speed. Going to war against them they're so powerful that it's almost impossible to get my warscore up to 100 to try and start peeling off their systems. To me this is just a boring unfun slog, is there some gameplay aspect I'm missing?

Gobblecoque
Sep 6, 2011

FISHMANPET posted:

So what the hell am I supposed to do at the end of the game? Awakened Empire is big enough it can stomp my fleets and I can rebuild and just do it all over again and again and again, but even that takes a significant amount of time, even at Fastest speed. Going to war against them they're so powerful that it's almost impossible to get my warscore up to 100 to try and start peeling off their systems. To me this is just a boring unfun slog, is there some gameplay aspect I'm missing?

Nah, endgame generally devolves into a slog, either because you can't beat the awakened empires/crises or because you have beaten the awakened empires/crises and there's nothing left to do.

Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011

Poil posted:

Does anything good ever contain the word neo in the beginning?

Neo Zeon

Pakled
Aug 6, 2011

WE ARE SMART

Poil posted:

Does anything good ever contain the word neo in the beginning?

Neopets.

PittTheElder
Feb 13, 2012

:geno: Yes, it's like a lava lamp.

Coolguye posted:

the two FEs are the xenophile and the spiritualist, which is obnoxious because this is my Suffer Not the Alien run; the xenophile one will have a real problem with me purging half of my client nations, which was ostensibly my plan for a while.

See you'd think that, but they actually don't really care at all, it's kinda weird.

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

So many capitalist options but where my space socialisms?

Coolguye
Jul 6, 2011

Required by his programming!

PittTheElder posted:

See you'd think that, but they actually don't really care at all, it's kinda weird.

doesn't literally everyone get a -80 genocidal malus if you butcher an entire race

Party Plane Jones
Jul 1, 2007

by Reene
Fun Shoe

Poil posted:

Does anything good ever contain the word neo in the beginning?

Neoscavenger is a good game.

Coolguye
Jul 6, 2011

Required by his programming!

Coolguye posted:

doesn't literally everyone get a -80 genocidal malus if you butcher an entire race

because i've got like 3 races on my kill list if not, though i suppose i only need to murder one soon because the other two have dry biosphere preferences

e: wait no it's 6 races and i need to kill 2 immediately (i forgot about the primitives)

Dwesa
Jul 19, 2016

Coolguye posted:

doesn't literally everyone get a -80 genocidal malus if you butcher an entire race
Isn't it more? I had around -2500 malus after cleansing several planets (repeatedly).

Coolguye
Jul 6, 2011

Required by his programming!
probably just stacks. i suppose it is not a big deal. xenos can't migrate in my empire so once I have the galaxy under something resembling control it'll just be a matter of ordering all of their exterminations at once so there's nobody left to hate me

dioxazine
Oct 14, 2004

That's always an elegant solution. If the galaxy hates you, just remove the galaxy and you're suddenly popular again.

Libluini
May 18, 2012

I gravitated towards the Greens, eventually even joining the party itself.

The Linke is a party I grudgingly accept exists, but I've learned enough about DDR-history I can't bring myself to trust a party that was once the SED, a party leading the corrupt state apparatus ...
Grimey Drawer

Roland Jones posted:

Other Prosperity Traditions:

https://twitter.com/dmoregard/status/827969918914142208
https://twitter.com/dmoregard/status/827971990703185921
https://twitter.com/dmoregard/status/827981829273681921
https://twitter.com/dmoregard/status/827986089147248640

Capitalism, ho. Interesting (and appropriate) that private colony ships got moved here from Individualism; it didn't exactly make sense there and definitely wouldn't have made much sense in Egalitarianism.

This is all very interesting and all, but I'm itching to see what Exploration brings to the table.

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DatonKallandor
Aug 21, 2009

"I can no longer sit back and allow nationalist shitposting, nationalist indoctrination, nationalist subversion, and the German nationalist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious game balance."
Going by the stream there's cheaper science stations and flat science for surveys.

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