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Kith: Sep 17, 2009; You never learn anything
by doing it right.

I played the original launch and got pretty tired of it almost immediately, so I'll give the new hotness a shot for giggles. However, I'm a huge nerd that likes guns and stuff, so I want to aim for characters that use them (possibly in excess). I'll be picking up Punisher as my starting character because that seems par for course, but what other heroes use guns? How shooty are Deadpool and War Machine?

# ? Feb 5, 2017 08:22

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# ? May 15, 2024 21:11

McSpanky: Jan 16, 2005

Power Bottom posted:

I played the original launch and got pretty tired of it almost immediately, so I'll give the new hotness a shot for giggles. However, I'm a huge nerd that likes guns and stuff, so I want to aim for characters that use them (possibly in excess). I'll be picking up Punisher as my starting character because that seems par for course, but what other heroes use guns? How shooty are Deadpool and War Machine?

Very, Deadpool is all about guns, swords and baysplosions and War Machine is Iron Man with bullets instead of lasers. There's also Blade, Rocket Raccoon (scifi rayguns kablammo), Black Widow, Winter Soldier, Cable (more scifi), Star-Lord (PEW PEW) and Taskmaster (semi-shooty, you can use talents to kinda Matrix him up). Iron Man can also be talented to fire nothing but rockets, rockets and more rockets with occasional bonus rockets, which are like guns but they go boom instead of splat at the end!

# ? Feb 5, 2017 08:33

Lozareth: Jun 11, 2006

I was asked for my Magneto build in sg chat.

Magneto, 2:10 ttk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CoYc_iYQBKE

# ? Feb 5, 2017 11:39

Differo Cathedra: Oct 9, 2012; To be honest it was 4AM when I started making the gif and even I don't know what it's supposed to be about by the time I finished it an hour and a few GIS searches later

Lozareth posted:

I was asked for my Magneto build in sg chat.

Magneto, 2:10 ttk

not enough words 0/10

Thanks for posting your build.

# ? Feb 5, 2017 12:52

Lux Aeterna: Feb 19, 2005

what is the new ttk expectation now? sub 2:30 with carol/mrf being king of the dummies?

# ? Feb 5, 2017 15:18

Jedit: Dec 10, 2011; Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

Anyone else getting problems with Beast crashing the game? I tried logging in, it crashed saying there were errors in the Beast stuff. I repatched, tried again, this time I got in but the game bombed with the same error when I switched to Beast.

# ? Feb 5, 2017 15:55

Gibbering Madness: Nov 7, 2009; 69 69 69 68

Jedit posted:

Anyone else getting problems with Beast crashing the game? I tried logging in, it crashed saying there were errors in the Beast stuff. I repatched, tried again, this time I got in but the game bombed with the same error when I switched to Beast.

I have a similar problem. Playing beast makes the game shut down within 5 mins of playing the game. Cause like, he's so bad that I have to hit alt-f4.

# ? Feb 5, 2017 16:53

punchymcpunch: Oct 14, 2012

Shoulda made Prof X playable instead.

# ? Feb 5, 2017 17:05

Ghostpilot: Jun 22, 2007; "As a rule, I never touch anything more sophisticated and delicate than myself."

Mahasamatman posted:

are there any good X-Men?

Storm, Nightcrawler and (perhaps to a lesser extent) Emma Frost. I recall hearing that Cyclops and Magneto were decent. Not sure how Beast stacks up just yet. As for the rest, not a clue.

# ? Feb 5, 2017 17:06

LordSaturn: Aug 12, 2007; sadly unfunny

Ghostlight posted:

Grinding terminal based legendary quests, or legendary quests in general.

Can you be more detailed about this? Is "do whatever your legendary quest says at all times" really the fastest way to grind XP? People talk about getting to level 60 in four hours, I just can't see how that's possible...

# ? Feb 5, 2017 17:34

Tortolia: Dec 29, 2005; Hindustan Electronics Employee of the Month, July 2008; Grimey Drawer

LordSaturn posted:

Can you be more detailed about this? Is "do whatever your legendary quest says at all times" really the fastest way to grind XP? People talk about getting to level 60 in four hours, I just can't see how that's possible...

Doing the chapter based story quests gives a huge amount of XP as you clear objectives. You can just travel power to each instance, sprint directly to the boss, and repeat.

Keep in mind that every character you get to 60 gives you a permanent XP bonus; the first few alone get you to like 75% bonus, and with a big enough roster gets you to 200%.

I am up to 170% synergy bonus and have enough boosters running to put me at like 350% bonus XP right now. I can take a hero from 1-60 in under an hour just blitzing through story mode.

# ? Feb 5, 2017 17:44

malhavok: Jan 18, 2013

Ghostpilot posted:

Storm, Nightcrawler and (perhaps to a lesser extent) Emma Frost. I recall hearing that Cyclops and Magneto were decent. Not sure how Beast stacks up just yet. As for the rest, not a clue.

Rogue is pretty awesome.

# ? Feb 5, 2017 17:53

LordSaturn: Aug 12, 2007; sadly unfunny

Tortolia posted:

Doing the chapter based story quests gives a huge amount of XP as you clear objectives. You can just travel power to each instance, sprint directly to the boss, and repeat.

Do you mean the first time you run through the story? Or can I go back and do the missions again somehow?

Tortolia posted:

Keep in mind that every character you get to 60 gives you a permanent XP bonus; the first few alone get you to like 75% bonus, and with a big enough roster gets you to 200%.

I am up to 170% synergy bonus and have enough boosters running to put me at like 350% bonus XP right now. I can take a hero from 1-60 in under an hour just blitzing through story mode.

People have talked about taking a brand-new account to its first 60 in four hours and I just do not believe that, based on my experiences so far.

LordSaturn fucked around with this message at 18:29 on Feb 5, 2017

# ? Feb 5, 2017 17:58

Hauki: May 11, 2010

Ghostpilot posted:

Storm, Nightcrawler and (perhaps to a lesser extent) Emma Frost. I recall hearing that Cyclops and Magneto were decent. Not sure how Beast stacks up just yet. As for the rest, not a clue.

Storm and rogue are great. Cable isn't bad, although he's probably worse off than he was before relative to other heroes. When I was idling streams for a chance at a press pack, some pubbie streamer was waxing on at length about how cyclops is the best char in the game now, but I can't be fussed to gear him up, he's so loving boring. Also I don't believe him at all.

# ? Feb 5, 2017 18:09

Jusupov: May 24, 2007; only text

Hauki posted:

Storm and rogue are great. Cable isn't bad, although he's probably worse off than he was before relative to other heroes. When I was idling streams for a chance at a press pack, some pubbie streamer was waxing on at length about how cyclops is the best char in the game now, but I can't be fussed to gear him up, he's so loving boring. Also I don't believe him at all.

I've seen a few cyclops in cmm past few days. They've all been waiting for someone else to kill the bosses while they sit there dead

# ? Feb 5, 2017 18:13

Chernobyl Peace Prize: May 7, 2007; Or later, later's fine.
But now would be good.

Jusupov posted:

I've seen a few cyclops in cmm past few days. They've all been waiting for someone else to kill the bosses while they sit there dead

Having to choose between being invulnerable during your "roots you for 5s" sig and being able to proc all 3 damage types is a tough road to walk.

# ? Feb 5, 2017 18:22

Lozareth: Jun 11, 2006

Lux Aeterna posted:

what is the new ttk expectation now? sub 2:30 with carol/mrf being king of the dummies?

Currently it seems like 2:30's is normal/acceptable, low 2:00's is great, and sub-2 is broken. But most of us are still doing ttk's without stuff like full challenge bonuses and perfect pets since all the +fighting on our gear was made less than optimal so the acceptable ttk will get pushed back some.

# ? Feb 5, 2017 18:49

Ghostlight: Sep 25, 2009; maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me

LordSaturn posted:

Can you be more detailed about this? Is "do whatever your legendary quest says at all times" really the fastest way to grind XP? People talk about getting to level 60 in four hours, I just can't see how that's possible...

Once you're out of Story quests it's pretty much all there is left that will consistently give an experience reward. The fastest fastest way that I know of, once you're out of Story, is to only do Terminal LQs by rerolling all the time - which you need a huge bankroll to do and I personally don't think is worth it unless you're racing a whole bunch of boosts ticking down.

LordSaturn posted:

People have talked about taking a brand-new account to its first 60 in four hours and I just do not believe that, based on my experiences so far.

I have no idea how people can be doing that beyond just whaling out on a bunch of potions, but then I haven't levelled with less than +270% for quite a while now so my perspective is completely skewed.

# ? Feb 5, 2017 22:46

Kheldarn: Feb 17, 2011

Anyone have a trip report on the new powers Rogue gets from Jubilee & Beast?

# ? Feb 6, 2017 03:20

MMAgCh: Aug 15, 2001; I am the poet,
The prophet of the pit
Like a hollow-point bullet
Straight to the head
I never missed...you

Jubilee's power is crud from what I hear. Too little damage on too long a cooldown (plus a 1.5s stun not worth giving a toss about). At least it looks very pretty?

Beast's passive restores 100% of your spirit and grants a damage/crit buff when you activate movement powers four times within five seconds. Sinister's teleport has five charges, so you can use it to proc the buff and still have one charge left over for actual movement purposes. Her flight power also qualifies! Seems questionable whether this is really worth giving up a passive slot for, though.

# ? Feb 6, 2017 04:17

Cease to Hope: Dec 12, 2011

Been fooling with mental Jean a bit. Mental means you get a vulnerability applier and don't have to stand at close range for as long to use your ult. It also means slightly worse survivability and marginally worse spirit (unless you spec for a free spender).

I also found out that you can fix her lack of vulnerability appliers with an artifact you can buy with Danger Room tokens. Fixing her vulnerability with an artifact also makes up for the fact that she could use one or two more slots for attacks.

Either way, there's not a lot of difference between mental and energy builds. Obviously the gear is different, but I'm not really going to pretend to know what the BIS gearing is any more. For powers:

Spender for filler. Telekinetic Throw is the go-to spender for most builds. If you're specced for Phoenix Ascending (fourth tier, second choice) or using a Cyclops Was Right T-Shirt as Phoenix JG, use Psychic Hammer for its faster attack speed (in the former case) or its area tag (in the latter case).
Psychic Maelstrom / Phoenix Maelstrom - You can replace this with Neural Network if you're going strictly for single-target TTK.
Crushing Telekinesis (sig)
Expel Phoenix Force / Dark Phoenix
Telekinetic Charge / Phoenix Charge
Psychokinetic Barrier - You can swap this for Telekinetic Slam, and they're both great.
Two open slots

The options for open slots, organized by my taste:

Psychic Lethargy - Mental JG only. This applies vulnerability, and the large slow is nice. It's not great damage and definitely not spammable; don't bother pressing it except on bosses or mini-bosses.
Tactical Destruction - AOE autobrut on a reasonable cooldown. You can only take this if you take the appropriate fourth-tier talent, but the only reason you wouldn't do that is because you're having spirit issues.
Debris Storm - Long cooldown, but this is like having a second sig. Most characters don't have a sig that is as fun or strong as Debris Storm. It's just hard to give up a slot for another long-CD attack.
Telepathic Illusion - Taunting target dummy abilities are a strong defensive option, they just don't contribute any damage.
Psychokinetic Implosion - Only worth it on energy JG, due to talent conflicts. Pseudo-healing attached to a decent AOE.
untalented Telekinetic Slam - This is an irresistable stun, so it's great for breaking bosses out of wind-up attacks.

Neural Panic and Telepathic/Phoenix Drain are trash.

Talents are pretty obvious, based on which attacks you take.

Unleash the Phoenix (first) or Omega Telepath (second), depending on which sort of build you want. I can't really see a practical use for Tempered Force in a normal duration fight.
Telepathic Dominance (third) is a must for mental builds. For energy builds, Friends of the First Class (second) is the weak default choice even if you don't use Illusion; Psionic Barrier (first) makes Implosion usable but you probably won't have room for it.
Font of Power (third) is the way to go for energy builds and most mental builds. Cycle of the Phoenix (second) is an option for mental builds with a 25% health/spirit catalyst, because it frees up a slot for an extra attack.
Environmental Hazard (third) is the only way to get Tactical Destruction, which is great. If you're having spirit issues or don't want to use Tactical Destruction, Phoenix Ascending (second) is the way to go.
Controlled Engagement (second) is better survivability and better spirit. Vertigo (third) is more damage and a guaranteed stun. Both are great.

# ? Feb 6, 2017 04:28

Lozareth: Jun 11, 2006

gently caress football forever, what a dumb sport

# ? Feb 6, 2017 04:31

Saint Freak: Apr 16, 2007; Regretting is an insult to oneself; Buglord

Did you count out Touchdown Tom?

# ? Feb 6, 2017 04:33

ICR: Dec 31, 2008

Satan always wins when football happens.

# ? Feb 6, 2017 04:52

Erdricks: Sep 8, 2005; There's nothing refreshing like a sauna!

Satan won tonight, that's for certain. I don't know how else to explain that game.

Also, anyone have a good rogue build? The completionist in me wants to fill out all of rogue's slots, which means having to do a green muscle and an onslaught at some point.

# ? Feb 6, 2017 04:54

Soothing Vapors: Mar 26, 2006; Associate Justice Lena "Kegels" Dunham: An uncool thought to have: 'is that guy walking in the dark behind me a rapist? Never mind, he's Asian.

Saint Freak posted:

Did you count out Touchdown Tom?

i did. i did it.

I counted out Touchdown Tom

I knew better, and I did it anyway

this is my fault. i have failed you all. Please, please leave the room if this will... if this will affect you.

# ? Feb 6, 2017 05:54

FranktheBank: May 14, 2007; In the beginning...the universe was created. his has been widely regarded as a bad move and has made a lot of people very angry.

Lozareth posted:

gently caress football forever, what a dumb sport

With dumb OT rules.

# ? Feb 6, 2017 06:17

punchymcpunch: Oct 14, 2012

haha sport

# ? Feb 6, 2017 08:48

Adult Sword Owner: Jun 19, 2011; u deserve diploma for sublime comedy expertise

SPORTS

GO

SPORTS

# ? Feb 6, 2017 09:41

Drythe: Aug 26, 2012

what child did Brady sacrifice at halftime to pull that off

FranktheBank posted:

With dumb OT rules.

also this

# ? Feb 6, 2017 13:35

punchymcpunch: Oct 14, 2012

https://twitter.com/Asros/status/828444684506714114

# ? Feb 6, 2017 13:44

punchymcpunch: Oct 14, 2012

TAKE THAT LEFTIES

# ? Feb 6, 2017 13:48

Serf: May 5, 2011

https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/828439818875109377

Tweet plagiarism is serious business :argh:

# ? Feb 6, 2017 13:53

Gibbering Madness: Nov 7, 2009; 69 69 69 68

Now that the election is over, is Nate Silver gonna get back into investigative journalism covering hit video game marvel heroes?

# ? Feb 6, 2017 14:43

Gibbering Madness: Nov 7, 2009; 69 69 69 68

punchymcpunch posted:

TAKE THAT LEFTIES

Before I read the post I legit thought Asros' tweet would've been something about not supporting left handed mouse use or something. Hitler was left handed after all. Punching a left handed person is A-OK in my book.

# ? Feb 6, 2017 14:45

Cease to Hope: Dec 12, 2011

punchymcpunch posted:

https://twitter.com/Asros/status/828444684506714114

hey that's the weird trump-loving furry artist for my stupid superhero diablo game

# ? Feb 6, 2017 15:20

malhavok: Jan 18, 2013

Erdricks posted:

Satan won tonight, that's for certain. I don't know how else to explain that game.

Also, anyone have a good rogue build? The completionist in me wants to fill out all of rogue's slots, which means having to do a green muscle and an onslaught at some point.

Solar strike
Vanish
Crimson Sweep
Infernal Meteor
Raging Cajun
Curse of Hellfire
Wrath of Muspleheim
Sig

Spiderman + Domino + your choice passives (i use venom)

Getting offense from defensive stats is great, plus everything is tagged area so you can use a grenade. I use a shield of perseus as legendary, makes her tanky as gently caress while still putting out great damage from the dodge stacking.

# ? Feb 6, 2017 15:30

Holyshoot: May 6, 2010

Jedit posted:

Anyone else getting problems with Beast crashing the game? I tried logging in, it crashed saying there were errors in the Beast stuff. I repatched, tried again, this time I got in but the game bombed with the same error when I switched to Beast.

IF this is a serious post I played him fine about a week ago up to level 40.

# ? Feb 6, 2017 15:48

madcow: Mar 20, 2006

https://forums.marvelheroes.com/discussion/312155/hero-surveys-for-the-biggest-update-ever

I have to imagine their results are going to get skewed by the people still disgruntled by the movement changes voting 1 for every hero.

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# ? May 15, 2024 21:11

Ghostlight: Sep 25, 2009; maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me

I voted

for everyone just so Gaz doesn't get discouraged.

# ? Feb 6, 2017 22:25

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