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http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-02-06/centrelink-set-to-strike-amid-debt-recovery-controversy/8243936quote:Centrelink staff to strike amid debt-recovery controversy
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Recoome posted:Channel 7 trying to capture the racist/bigoted idiot demographic, I see Considering most people are moving away from free to air TV, Channel 7 needs to get into a niche somehow.
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# ? Feb 6, 2017 03:10 |
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https://twitter.com/vesselskirt/status/828394685907374080
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# ? Feb 6, 2017 03:11 |
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hooman posted:My view is that very few people really wants to smash the gays and women into the dirt, we like those people, we just don't like all our jobs vanishing and getting ripped off constantly by "free trade deals" that make everyone locally lose their jobs in order for big companies to make fatter profits and pay workers less. Agreed, I just never hear from those people and all I see is misdirection the other way. Realistically, unless we get a government willing to invest here to balance out the cash/automation/corporate drain, we will continue to be hosed. Right now I can't see anything seriously moving unless the house bubble bursts or half the middle class get their jobs automated away.
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hooman posted:My view is that very few people really wants to smash the gays and women into the dirt, we like those people, we just don't like all our jobs vanishing and getting ripped off constantly by "free trade deals" that make everyone locally lose their jobs in order for big companies to make fatter profits and pay workers less. Blaming free trade and globalism for not being able to get a good job is just a slightly more abstracted version of blaming the immigrants for stealing your job. It's not the rise of globalism, but the decline of socialism and government investment in the population that has put people in that situation. I hope this unholy alliance of left and right around protectionism dies out quickly.
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# ? Feb 6, 2017 03:21 |
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Recoome posted:Channel 7 trying to capture the racist/bigoted idiot demographic, I see Also popularist is a new word for Fascist. The similarities are manifold.
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# ? Feb 6, 2017 03:54 |
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Channel 7 kept Pauline in the public focus when they had her on Dancing with the Stars, so maybe there's an undisclosed exclusive sweet deal, publicity arrangement, raunchy photos, an exec who's a little sweet on her, or some one has decided that it's the only way that Channel 7 can stay relevant.
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# ? Feb 6, 2017 04:10 |
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"Hello is this the Fashion Police?, I would like to report a crime"
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# ? Feb 6, 2017 04:21 |
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open24hours posted:Blaming free trade and globalism for not being able to get a good job is just a slightly more abstracted version of blaming the immigrants for stealing your job. Actually it's not.
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# ? Feb 6, 2017 04:21 |
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What's the difference?
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# ? Feb 6, 2017 04:29 |
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open24hours posted:What's the difference? Globalism and free trade deals mean that the immigrants don't come here and take your job, corporations take your job and off-shore it so they can pay some poor sucker far less than Aussie minimum wage
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# ? Feb 6, 2017 04:39 |
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the solution is world revolution not protectionism tho
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# ? Feb 6, 2017 04:44 |
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BBJoey posted:the solution is world revolution not protectionism tho Absolutely.
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# ? Feb 6, 2017 04:44 |
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MysticalMachineGun posted:Globalism and free trade deals mean that the immigrants don't come here and take your job, corporations take your job and off-shore it so they can pay some poor sucker far less than Aussie minimum wage People who lose their jobs should be supported by a well resourced welfare system so they can find something else to do. It's the withdrawal of that support, not free trade, that makes life miserable.
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# ? Feb 6, 2017 04:50 |
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open24hours posted:People who lose their jobs should be supported by a well resourced welfare system so they can find something else to do. It's the withdrawal of that support, not free trade, that makes life miserable. Absolutely
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# ? Feb 6, 2017 04:53 |
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open24hours posted:Offshoring is essentially the same thing as importing, but you're importing labour instead of goods. All protectionism does is protect the rent seeking factory owner/employer from competition and make goods more expensive for the consumer. Mmm. The complexity of "find something else to do" is what is hurting more these days than it used to, because the viability of industries that used to rely on a high degree of localisation is no longer there. People know that "in the past" you could rely on your local area needing a basic level of human staffing, whereas now because of IT and automation a lot of that can be done remotely with far less people. The supports have been removed or weakened, and the steps required to get back to work are much higher and longer (move, train, skill up, get healthy, etc)
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# ? Feb 6, 2017 05:05 |
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Which really highlights the importance of investing in skills that enable people to move around as necessary. Shame all we get is grade one phonics tests.
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# ? Feb 6, 2017 05:07 |
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open24hours posted:Which really highlights the importance of investing in skills that enable people to move around as necessary. Shame all we get is grade one phonics tests. But even then, in the minds of many they shouldn't need to move around just to find employment. Having to skill up is one thing, forcing your family to relocate just to survive is another, and getting more necessary over time. That pisses people off when they try to put down roots.
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# ? Feb 6, 2017 05:09 |
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Les Affaires posted:But even then, in the minds of many they shouldn't need to move around just to find employment. Having to skill up is one thing, forcing your family to relocate just to survive is another, and getting more necessary over time. That pisses people off when they try to put down roots. When I said move around I meant moving between industries, but I take your point. I'm not sure what can be done other than making the move as painless as possible. As society's demands change some places will become more viable and others less so. I'm not sure there's a way around that, or if there was that it would be a good idea to implement it. open24hours fucked around with this message at 05:26 on Feb 6, 2017 |
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open24hours posted:When I said move around I meant moving between industries, but I take your point. I'm not sure what can be done other than making the move as painless as possible. As society's demands change some places will become more viable and others less so. I'm note sure there's a way around that, or if there was that it would be a good idea to implement it. Its a shame but the NBN would have gone a long way to solve it, mostly by making industries that rely on human labour but not physical presence able to move to wherever in Australia is cheapest. Tasmania has a substantial amount of public department work in part because it is
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# ? Feb 6, 2017 05:25 |
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Les Affaires posted:Its a shame but the NBN would have gone a long way to solve it, mostly by making industries that rely on human labour but not physical presence able to move to wherever in Australia is cheapest. Tasmania has a substantial amount of public department work in part because it is What stops this from moving overseas?
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# ? Feb 6, 2017 05:39 |
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hooman posted:What stops this from moving overseas? Depends on the industry, and the type of labour. If its just information processing, then nothing (think purely online delivery of a service). If its involving something that requires actual physical logistics (manufacturing or agriculture) then its a little moe resistant to pure offshoring. Just the same, if it requires local knowledge or a local accent (call centres anybody?) then all the same. The US had the same problem ever since the late seventies. They used to have a system of laws that flattened out many of the factors of production so that it made business as cheap or expensive in Wyoming as it did in New York or San Fransisco. Usually they revolved around grants or restrictive trade practises on things like the banks (local branches, restrictions on consolidation) and transport infrastructure (railways and air freight costs equal no matter where it was going) These got rolled back over the last forty years and look what happened, the economic opportunity shifted to areas of mass concentration, at the expense of regional areas. Hence Trump (who doesn't understand either this problem or any of the viable solutions). Same with Bernardi, I guess.
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# ? Feb 6, 2017 05:51 |
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A lady working for the UN, involved in writing the development plan for SEQ, I was listening to the other day was talking off handedly about how 30 years ago 25% of the workers were employed by the government, and now it's about 7%. Apart from all the poo poo they would have been doing all I could think about was "there's your welfare system". The current governments all seem to think smaller and smaller government is best but I don't think I agree. If someone needs work the government should have a job that needs to be done. And not in the slave labour wftd sense either.
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ZombyDog posted:Channel 7 kept Pauline in the public focus when they had her on Dancing with the Stars, so maybe there's an undisclosed exclusive sweet deal, publicity arrangement, raunchy photos, an exec who's a little sweet on her, or some one has decided that it's the only way that Channel 7 can stay relevant. Channel 7 has been doing this for years. Shows like sunrise, border patrol and home&away are used as agenda setting devices that frame the limits of acceptable discourse.
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# ? Feb 6, 2017 06:23 |
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but you see only private industry can make jobs, i have only read one book in my life and it was ayn rand
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# ? Feb 6, 2017 06:29 |
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open24hours posted:Offshoring is essentially the same thing as importing, but you're importing labour instead of goods. All protectionism does is protect the rent seeking factory owner/employer from competition and make goods more expensive for the consumer. A good post. Music to my ears
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# ? Feb 6, 2017 07:17 |
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Border Patrol is even broadcast overseas.. I had a tour guide in Thailand tell me he was afraid to come to Aus after watching it.
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# ? Feb 6, 2017 07:43 |
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https://twitter.com/BBCWorld/status/828488580918083584 https://twitter.com/DanBox10/status/828444287289266178
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# ? Feb 6, 2017 07:47 |
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So I guess it's time to update the Statute of Restraint of Appeals then?
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# ? Feb 6, 2017 07:53 |
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I had a Marist Brothers house like a street away from my house growing up. I know one of the brothers used to go for walks passed the school until he was asked to change his route. 20% is hosed up.
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# ? Feb 6, 2017 07:53 |
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Good News Everyone! You can thank Tony for the continuing destruction of the Liberal Partyquote:
The story is not clear at all if he meant he was happy not to give a stuff for the national interest, or if he only cares about getting re-elected, or both.
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# ? Feb 6, 2017 07:57 |
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https://twitter.com/Tim_Beshara/status/828385251516772352
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:I had a Marist Brothers house like a street away from my house growing up. I know one of the brothers used to go for walks passed the school until he was asked to change his route. 20% is hosed up. The school I went to was next door to a group that had 40% reported members doing it. Someone ask Cori Bernardi when he will call on all Catholics to denounce this. He can further differentiate his party from the LNP by doing it too!
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# ? Feb 6, 2017 08:01 |
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My mate and I were in the Catholic system growing up, I went to Marist and he went to Patrician.
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# ? Feb 6, 2017 08:09 |
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Jesus chest Campbell Newman hosed Queensland Rail so hard, its become a vengeful ghosts and claiming Minister scalps. Seriously gently caress Campbell Newman.
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# ? Feb 6, 2017 08:12 |
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https://twitter.com/susanamet/status/828497700312068097 https://twitter.com/susanamet/status/828497900275527681
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# ? Feb 6, 2017 08:14 |
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All jokes aside is it even possible for the government to shut down a religious group short of declaring them violent terrorists or an organised crime syndicate?
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# ? Feb 6, 2017 08:18 |
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adamantium|wang posted:https://twitter.com/BBCWorld/status/828488580918083584 So we should close our borders to Catholics and start harassing them in the streets am I right?
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# ? Feb 6, 2017 08:18 |
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Future Miranda Devine: "Why isn't anyone talking about the 60% of St John of God Brothers who DIDN'T gently caress kids?!??"
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https://twitter.com/ANSETT_AU/status/828471017920016385
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