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long-rear end nips Diane posted:I'm going to get some napoleonic French to do in between bolt action squads, break things up with some color. I had been doing guild ball models but I'm almost out. French army, best army. I'm about to finish my first units of carabiniers, but ran out of bases. 
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Colonial Air Force posted:Ooh, I wonder if they'll make a Gvevny for World of Warships.... Yeah, the World of Warships branded model kits are stuff I could get anywhere, like the Tirpitz. I keep hoping for the Chapayev or paper ships like the Zao/Type A 1941 Cruiser.
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gently caress it, I bought the bolt action book, a box of plastic soviets, a t34 and a squad of female riflemen. Before any of it arrives, are there any support weapons/mortars or anything you guys recommend for a soviet platoon?
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lenoon posted:gently caress it, I bought the bolt action book, a box of plastic soviets, a t34 and a squad of female riflemen. Before any of it arrives, are there any support weapons/mortars or anything you guys recommend for a soviet platoon? The Zis-3 divisional gun is a great value because it can fire as a medium AT gun or a light howitzer. Very useful.
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lenoon posted:gently caress it, I bought the bolt action book, a box of plastic soviets, a t34 and a squad of female riflemen. Before any of it arrives, are there any support weapons/mortars or anything you guys recommend for a soviet platoon? I've never played the game nor have I opened my Soviet starter army box but I have an 82mm mortar so I reccomend
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I haven't played Bolt Action but I've cursed a lot about Maxim guns in CoC. We hates them.
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I've been told by my partner that she's getting impatient waiting for me to hurry up and paint up a couple of retinues for Lion Rampant.  So I'm planning to grab a box of Perry Hundred Years War infantry and get cracking. After they arrive I'll be posting progress in this thread as a way of keeping track myself and sharing my progress. I'm putting everything else on hold for this because I should probably play some of these games more often than I switch painting projects.
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So thinking about what's lying around in my house, I've got a full platoon from the FestungsKompanie box, two Beireit Platoon packs, the old resin and metal GepanzertePanzergrenadier HQ box set, and most of a PSC Early War German Infantry box, all of which are doing nothing ever, because... wargamers. Given that this means I probably have spares of literally everything that a Landser could ever have been issued, what exactly goes into a 1945 Heer platoon for CoC that'll give me an excuse to dig these all out and put togther some nightmare mix of Kar98Ks, StG44s and MG42s with literally all the homegrown AT options ever available to Nazi Germany?
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Feb 6, 2017 05:29
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Once again I'd like to pimp the World of Tanks papercraft kits here for people getting into BA. They are really well made, you can build one in a few hours, they look good on the table and they are in 28mm.
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Arquinsiel posted:Given that this means I probably have spares of literally everything that a Landser could ever have been issued, what exactly goes into a 1945 Heer platoon for CoC that'll give me an excuse to dig these all out and put togther some nightmare mix of Kar98Ks, StG44s and MG42s with literally all the homegrown AT options ever available to Nazi Germany? https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hyCsuOONh_t-8IV6h8leAIXzHFypPoLaHrbKB-KEGAo/edit This isn't a Heer platoon, it's a Volksgrenadier platoon, which is fine because those were the units that were most likely to be issued the StG44s. But the platoon is 1 rifle squad and 2 assault squads, so there's still lots of Kar98Ks in there as well. MG42s were organic to each squad, and all of the AT options are given in the support list. I think it's pretty much exactly what you want.
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Are you sure you don't mean Volksturm for non-Heer there? The Volksgrenadiers were just six battalion divisions, rather than the normal nine, with lots of automatic weapons. Volksturm was the old dudes and kids with a single Panzerfaust and harsh language. Looks like I can scrounge up most of that, but I might need to make a few Panzerfaust out of pins and greenstuff to sling on backs. FoW tends to just give you one per platoon rather than per squad. Also rifle grenades at 15mm are going to be so indistinguishable from plain old rifles that I might just not bother there. Got most of the support options floating around too  Much obliged.
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The link is pretty accurate for a Volksgrenadier Company. I'd love to see a CoC Volkssturm platoon though.
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Volkstrum Platoon Platoon Leader - Han "Lefty" Schneider (Wounded 5 times in action, still has one good arm) Squad 1 - 7 Middle aged men with refurbished WW1 rifles Squad 2 - 6 Tweens armed with BB guns plus Old Man Jenkins with a musket Squad 3 - Mostly stray dogs
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the idea of playing with volkstrum is pretty loving grim
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Kung Fu Fist gently caress posted:the idea of playing with volkstrum is pretty loving grim Checked the topic on TMP: "Consider using some smaller figs too, like the 25mm scale from Battlefront, which would work well for teenagers, compared to 28mms for adults." Welp.
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Kung Fu Fist gently caress posted:the idea of playing with volkstrum is pretty loving grim I want to build an army of late-war troops that is so utterly depressing my opponent will forfeit.
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Feb 6, 2017 08:53
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 target that pigtailed girl with the panzerfaust! 
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Feb 6, 2017 08:54
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At least i haven't seen Napoleonic manufacturers making malnourished drummer boys.
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Eh, I have no real objection to that kind of poo poo on a theoretical level. Wargames are about exploring different aspects of popular wars and to be honest the Volksturm are a hugely interesting subject and are obviously tied with an inherent tense of intense fatalism which means people will naturally be very attracted to them in some way (see also: Polish resistance, Anti-Soviet partisan forces, Forest Brothers, etc). That being said I wouldn't even touch that with a ten foot pole. I got offered recently a LOT and I mean a LOT of money to do a commission that was painting two opposing forces for a Battle of Berlin scenario table and I turned it down because I just didn't want to spend that much creative energy on something so god drat depressing. The dude had a lot of really well done pieces and stuff but it was all just so loving grim. Child soldiers is a little dark for me, I even had a few models for them that I got in the process of assembling my 1/72 ImagiNation project and I have no idea what to do with them except maybe convert them into non-soldiers or something.lilljonas posted:At least i haven't seen Napoleonic manufacturers making malnourished drummer boys. That's more of a AWI/Age of Sail thing, no?
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Arquinsiel posted:So thinking about what's lying around in my house, I've got a full platoon from the FestungsKompanie box, two Beireit Platoon packs, the old resin and metal GepanzertePanzergrenadier HQ box set, and most of a PSC Early War German Infantry box, all of which are doing nothing ever, because... wargamers. There are three late war platoons in the COC book. quote:Infantry quote:Panzergrenadier Platoon quote:Fallschirmjäger Platoon
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El Estrago Bonito posted:That's more of a AWI/Age of Sail thing, no? Yeah, kind of, but you could join the British army at age 16 for example, so there were plenty of teenagers on the Napoleonic battlefields. In reality recruiters would accept even younger kids, so soldiers in their mid-teens were not unusual. AFAIK the whole "drummer boy" was a habit that was more common in the Americas, with plenty of drummer boys (and young cadets) fighting in the AWI and ACW as young as 9, or even 7 in extreme cases. lilljonas fucked around with this message at 11:20 on Feb 6, 2017 |
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Arquinsiel posted:Are you sure you don't mean Volksturm for non-Heer there?
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I'd rather see Volksturm on the table than a bunch of SS ubermensch played some Nazi apologist.
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Ilor posted:No, I definitely wasn't talking Volksturm. Even though Volksgrenadier were an actual uniformed army unit, I guess I distinguish them from regular (Heer) infantry because their units were organized so differently. But that's probably just me.  " recruitment policies.
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Indeed.
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Tomorrow it's time to go back to Russia 1812. We're gonna playtest SP2 again, with the proposed shock saving throws posted earlier. We also have some test rules to simplify nco's, we'll see if they work or not.
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Colonial Air Force posted:I'd rather see Volksturm on the table than a bunch of SS ubermensch played some Nazi apologist. Same. I'd love to see lists for VS / FFI (maquis?) / partizans in CoC, but I don't know enough about the paramilitary of WW2 to put them together.
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Russian penal conscripts vs. Volksturm One shot fired, misses, both squads morale broken Stuff like this happens in combat mission. If you set both sides troops to the worst quality possible you'll have like a guy fire his own machine gun and suppress himself
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Of course comrade. Machinegun very dangerous!
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Colonial Air Force posted:I'd rather see Volksturm on the table than a bunch of SS ubermensch played some Nazi apologist.  a bleak end of days style game/campaign might actually be entertaining in a set-up to lose but see how long you can last sort of way
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working mom posted:
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A dude wrote up a thing on our recent local wargaming day http://antonswargame.blogspot.com/2017/02/flintcon-session-one-photo-extravaganza.html
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Sounds like the Craptech games of Battletech we used to play. Broken agri-mechs with machine guns taped on and pre-game damage.
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I should say that the scenario table I mentioned earlier was based on this. The players played a variety of forces with specific missions but all of them were Germans. The idea was that you calculated the advance of the Russians through the board which closed off access to parts of it as the game went on. And so you's have one player playing HJ's trying to escape the city and stuff like that(a thing based on a real historical event covered in some detail in the excellent Hitler Youth: Growing Up in Hitler's Shadow). Arquinsiel posted:Sounds like the Craptech games of Battletech we used to play. Broken agri-mechs with machine guns taped on and pre-game damage. Or how sometimes in games of Mordheim you need bodies to gain XP so you have your decent warband backed up by "Larry the guy with a knife".
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El Estrago Bonito posted:Once again I'd like to pimp the World of Tanks papercraft kits here for people getting into BA. They are really well made, you can build one in a few hours, they look good on the table and they are in 28mm. here is the link, I think http://worldoftanks.ru/ru/media/tag/28/ xutech fucked around with this message at 21:41 on Feb 6, 2017 |
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Can anyone extrapolate on the "myth of the drummer boy"? How is it a myth? I only get google hits for TMP which is down (as usual).
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Fish and Chimps posted:Can anyone extrapolate on the "myth of the drummer boy"? How is it a myth? I only get google hits for TMP which is down (as usual). Courtesy of google caching quote:I notice that in the Victrix packs the drummer figure is considerably shorter than the rest of the (uniform height) figures. I guess the idea is that this is a drummer BOY and the bare head provided with the pack, looking a little small, is intended for this figure. quote:@ Lord Hill,
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Thanks! Interesting. I'll ask a colleague about boy musicians in the Danish army. He might shed some light on our customs. I seriously doubt that anyone had many qualms about sending boys to war though. 12-13 year old ship's boys was very common in the Danish navy.
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I got around to organize a Table of Contents for our monster Stalino CoC campaign. Now we just have to... you know... write the last 5-6 battle reports, and it's done. http://krigetkommer.weebly.com/stalino-1941/table-of-contents Just in time for our monster North Africa CoC campaign! :P
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I asked the curator about drummer boys. He agreed that they were not as prevalent as some people might think, but they were there. Age limit in the Danish army during the 18th century was 15. So there  lilljonas posted:I got around to organize a Table of Contents for our monster Stalino CoC campaign. Now we just have to... you know... write the last 5-6 battle reports, and it's done. Nice! Looking forward to it! We're finally going to move on the pint-sized campaign, in spite of the fact we're all lazy uncoordinated buggers, and I still need to paint 20 15mm brits. The first couple of games will be introduction games to get used to the rules, and maybe get motivated to paint the last minis. I'll try to take pictures of the proper campaign games to post here.
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