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IMB posted:Aren't there lots of dudes who get released, then get picked up by another team who only has to pay them the minimum, while their former team pays the remainder of their full contract? Or even trades, would that count? I mean, the Yankees are paying part of McCann's salary for the rest of his contract.
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CubsWoo posted:Edwin Jackson got 4/50MM from the Cubs to put up a total of -4 WAR across four teams for the duration of that contract. He's off the books for good now! 
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Feb 6, 2017 05:34
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ROCK THE HOUSE M.D. posted:Royals signed Jason Hammel for 2/$16m with a mutual option for a 3rd season. Pending the results of a physical 
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ROCK THE HOUSE M.D. posted:Royals signed Jason Hammel for 2/$16m with a mutual option for a 3rd season. Clearly less than he wanted/expected but he gets to stick with Soler and if he's not actually broken that's a reasonable deal for a guy who will probably give you 120+ innings of #4/#5 starter level pitching. It was getting late enough that I actually expected Hammel to end up somewhere on a minor league deal and ST invite. Now I'm wondering why Travis Wood isn't signed unless he's digging in and wanting a chance to start again.
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CubsWoo posted:Now I'm wondering why Travis Wood isn't signed unless he's digging in and wanting a chance to start again. He's reportedly gotten interest from a few teams for a bullpen/swingman role, but rumor is he wants a starting gig.
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Sydin posted:He's reportedly gotten interest from a few teams for a bullpen/swingman role, but rumor is he wants a starting gig. Someone should sign him as an outfielder. N: Jung Ho Kang entering alcohol treatment program after third DUI since 2009 V: Christ, man, you were supposed to be cool once upon a time.
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Explosionface posted:Someone should sign him as an outfielder. Didn't he have a rape charge last year too?
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LeftistMuslimObama posted:Didn't he have a rape charge last year too? Or sexual assault, yes. I don't know if he was ever formally charged or if the whole thing just fizzled. Last I knew, it was still being investigated, but that was also back when we still had MLB games happening.
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https://twitter.com/AdamRubinESPN/status/828626812091576320 that's not good for mets reporting
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Explosionface posted:Someone should sign him as an outfielder. We've all thought this type of thing before but how do professional athletes keep getting DUIs? Dude you've got enough money for a cab and a cab back to your car in the morning. Hell the team itself would probably be perfectly happy to set up some sort of ride for you at any time. ROCK THE HOUSE M.D. posted:Royals signed Jason Hammel for 2/$16m with a mutual option for a 3rd season. Good, I guess. They needed to get someone else in, as long as his arm doesn't fall off it seems fine.
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Grittybeard posted:We've all thought this type of thing before but how do professional athletes keep getting DUIs? Dude you've got enough money for a cab and a cab back to your car in the morning. Hell the team itself would probably be perfectly happy to set up some sort of ride for you at any time. What good is a $200k sports car if you can't drive it drunk?
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Popete posted:What good is a $200k sports car if you can't drive it drunk? They should be required to buy only poo poo like the FXX where you have to have Ferrari bring it to the track for you and they won't let you have it on the road.
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welp got our tickets for the year. 800 bucks for the year, 20 games, not bad at all. cmon spring training go jays
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Grittybeard posted:We've all thought this type of thing before but how do professional athletes keep getting DUIs? Dude you've got enough money for a cab and a cab back to your car in the morning. Hell the team itself would probably be perfectly happy to set up some sort of ride for you at any time. Because addicts do not make rational decisions while they are using. I hope he manages to get sober and stay that way. This does not excuse any of his past behavior, but "Wow, why do people with addictions do dumb things?" is not exactly the question to ask.
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Maybe he gets nervous driving his sport car, so he just drinks while driving it to loosen up.
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Grittybeard posted:We've all thought this type of thing before but how do professional athletes keep getting DUIs? Dude you've got enough money for a cab and a cab back to your car in the morning. Hell the team itself would probably be perfectly happy to set up some sort of ride for you at any time. There was a guy who owned a towing company in Highwood, IL that basically made a living off of Scottie Pippen in the '90s. Pippen would drive his Lamborghini to a bar, then rather than driving drunk, he'd call the owner of the company who'd personally come over at any hour and tow Scottie and his car back home.
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Grittybeard posted:We've all thought this type of thing before but how do professional athletes keep getting DUIs? Dude you've got enough money for a cab and a cab back to your car in the morning. Hell the team itself would probably be perfectly happy to set up some sort of ride for you at any time. I've heard rumors that the Cardinals effectively took away Freese's driving privileges at one point because of issues like this. If only they'd done the same with Taveras.
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I drive better when I'm drunk
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My understanding is that these leagues do have a program that provides free transportation for players that are not able to drive, but there is a stigma against it because it's provided by the league and players are concerned that just by using it teams are going to use that information against them in the future or something. I remember hearing that about the NFL anyway.
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The other question I have is how do the teams feel about their players drinking this much? Certainly drinking alcohol to the point that you can't drive your car on a regular basis has deleterious effects on your body that would show on the field.
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Baseball has a long storied tradition of alcohol/drug abuse that I'm sure still persists to a lesser degree today. I imagine the owners can't really tell players to stop drinking completely or assign handler because that would be extremely unpopular among the players. It's probably a "don't let me hear about it and don't show up drunk" situation.
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Popete posted:Pro sports Hockey might be the worst....they think a quarter of the league today has at the least a drinking problem if not being outright alcoholics; 30 years ago it was probably 75%. Baseball at least makes them wait until they're 18 to start abusing. In related news it looks like they're thinking about moving bottom of the strike zone to above the knee? That seems like a pretty significant change to the game.....
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When I was a kid I used to wonder how a player could go from averaging a PPG in hockey to being a bubble guy, I wonder how many of those guys had coke or drinking problems
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bewbies posted:In related news it looks like they're thinking about moving bottom of the strike zone to above the knee? That seems like a pretty significant change to the game.....
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Baseball was founded on guys playing the game in the park with booze nearby, so I highly doubt that will ever change
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bawfuls posted:The effective bottom of the zone has migrated downward over the past 5+ years, in part because of the feedback umpires get from PitchFX. There is a good argument for this contributing to the drop in offense over the same period. Plus bad calls only exacerbate the problem-- The zone's already huge, so one or two egregious calls will have batters chasing poo poo that's nowhere close for the rest of the game.
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LeftistMuslimObama posted:The other question I have is how do the teams feel about their players drinking this much? Certainly drinking alcohol to the point that you can't drive your car on a regular basis has deleterious effects on your body that would show on the field. The legal limit is pretty low in terms of serious bodily harm from your BAC. I mean, if it does become an issue on the field is when you see teams really step in, be that via suspensions for DUIs or whatnot or actual in-game performance.
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They're also again bringing up automatic IBB's because MLB hates fun and is on a crusade to remove as much of it as possible from the game. e. Also the Cubs keep adding to their conga line of failed pitching prospects: https://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/status/828063472336375809
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There's been a lot of functioning alcoholics in baseball. It's kind of intertwined with the sport: Babe Ruth Doc Gooden Darryl Strawberry Bret Boone CC Sabathia Oh, who knows if Josh Hamilton was sober when he killed that guy...
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Listing players with drinking
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Soul Glo posted:Listing players with drinking Rest in Peace, Wade Boggs 
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seiferguy posted:There's been a lot of functioning alcoholics in baseball. It's kind of intertwined with the sport: Mickey Mantle, too. Pretty sure more than one person has said the race between Mantle and Maris made Mickey from a guy who liked a drink now and then to a full blown drunk, mainly because of the pressure to be the one who broke the record. Plus, he personally liked Maris despite what the media claimed, and that probably didn't help, with the way they treated him. Mickey Mantle posted:A lot of people wrote that Roger (Maris) and I didn't like each other and that we didn't get along. Nothing could be further from the truth. Mickey Mantle posted:Roger Maris was as good a man and as good a ballplayer as there ever was Mantle was a pretty straight shooter who let people know what he thought of them, so reconcile that with the narrative the media tried to create and you can see why it created stress. There are 5 Yankees I like without reservation: Sabathia, Mantle, Posada, Ruth and Paul O' Neill.
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Billy Martin remains the gold standard for baseball drunks.
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Spoeank posted:Rest in Peace, Wade Boggs He still has a lucrative Carpet World to fall back on.
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Seems like every baseball memoir I've read talks about ballplayers barhopping all night and sleeping it off on the bus ride to the park.
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Kevlar v2.0 posted:There was a guy who owned a towing company in Highwood, IL that basically made a living off of Scottie Pippen in the '90s. Pippen would drive his Lamborghini to a bar, then rather than driving drunk, he'd call the owner of the company who'd personally come over at any hour and tow Scottie and his car back home. I wonder if he got tipped at all.
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Sydin posted:They're also again bringing up automatic IBB's because MLB hates fun and is on a crusade to remove as much of it as possible from the game. I know right? When people mention fun, watching a pitcher lob a ball four times to a catcher while everyone stands around hoping with baited breath we get to see a one in a thousand chance thing happen is the first thing that comes to my mind, too.
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IcePhoenix posted:I know right? When people mention fun, watching a pitcher lob a ball four times to a catcher while everyone stands around hoping with baited breath we get to see a one in a thousand chance thing happen is the first thing that comes to my mind, too. It's a dumb change because it won't speed up the game appreciably, but it's also a dumb change to get worked up about because it seems like it hardly ever happens and like you said, it getting messed up happens even more rarely.
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