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Facebook Aunt posted:Are they going to throw the new Dalai Lama kid in prison? They've been claiming he's a terrorist and whatnot for decades, so it would be pretty weird if they let his next incarnation just set up shop in Tibet. Well they also claim that they have the right to decide who he reincarnates into because 5000 years of Tibet obeying the Middle Kingdom.
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Careful dude, that guy fucks.
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Ceciltron posted:Well they also claim that they have the right to decide who he reincarnates into because 5000 years of Tibet obeying the Middle Kingdom. Right. He's totally going to incarnate into a Han kid next time. But if they play along that it is really the same guy, then he's still a terrorist. If it's not the same guy, then that's not the real Dalai Lama and the real one is at large somewhere still being a terrorist.
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Facebook Aunt posted:Are they going to throw the new Dalai Lama kid in prison? They've been claiming he's a terrorist and whatnot for decades, so it would be pretty weird if they let his next incarnation just set up shop in Tibet. You can't make this poo poo up, because the chinese already made it all up first: China Says It Will Decide Who the Dalai Lama Shall Be Reincarnated As
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The Dalai Lama will be reincarnated as a 45-year old party official whose wife's family owns a paper mill in the Lhasa suburbs.
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peanut posted:The Dalai Lama will be reincarnated as a 45-year old party official whose wife's family owns a paper mill in the Lhasa suburbs. Seems auspicious imo
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Haier posted:Now they're just taking who they want: It's likely just part of Uncle Xi's "Anti Corruption" action. Using state sanctioned powers to steal money from people who could potentially be rivals or dissidents is about as old a trick as there is.
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Baronjutter posted:It's been a loooong march, gettin' from there to here.  I got you bro.
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Haier posted:Now they're just taking who they want: drat. are they going maoist again? some dude on another thread said XI was trying to head back in that direction. i am sure the tankies are thrilled.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:drat. are they going maoist again? some dude on another thread said XI was trying to head back in that direction. i am sure the tankies are thrilled. He's been trying to arrest anyone who has any reason to oppose him. He's been trying to consolidate control of the country's armed forces to himself and his cronies. Trying to craft a cult of personality by show-boating against the west. Significantly increasing censorship and crackdowns on any manner of dissent. And he's been trying to cultivate the idea that the party is dependant specifically on himself, "so maybe term limits are a bad thing?". I don't know about Maoist. . . more like "Putinist"?
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Blistex posted:He's been trying to arrest anyone who has any reason to oppose him. Will it work? I thought the party apparatus had safe guards against these kind of power moves. Is the CCP going to bend over and take this or are they going to get a share of Xi's good fortune and power?
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Last night I was supposed to meet this girl from Tantan for like a walk-date thing. We had already met last week at her place and got frisky, and this time she was in my area and wanting to take a stroll and see my house. It was looking good. I was actually coming home from somewhere else, so I sent her my house location and told her to meet me there. She says she can't read a map and is sure she'll get lost, and she needs me to show her. I told her to just try anyway. Sure enough, she starts walking a totally wrong direction and I ask her to stop and turn around because now she's going to another neighborhood. About twenty minutes after that, I have dumped my stuff off at home and am outside trying to find her. Eventually she finds the Metro station and we meet. Why is it soooooooooooooooooo common here that people can't read a map and follow the little arrow showing them that's their location? Countless dumbos have been completely unaware about how to read a map or use GPS location or follow the route that the app makes for them. It's mind boggling to me. Anyway, we're walking and her phone keeps buzzing. She's keeps opening Wechat to write something, saying it's her job. I can see it's all in English, and her job is entirely in English, so I don't think anything of it. About ten minutes later it starts making a different sound. I'm in the middle of telling her something and I look over and she's got Tantan open and chatting with some white guy. Ok, that's too weird. I can't go for that. Me: "Ok, I'm going home now. Thanks." Her: "WHAT? Why are you going home? I don't understand!?" Me: "You have Tantan open. That's rude as hell. I know Chinese have no sense of not using their phones all the time but, where I come from, chatting a bunch during a date gives the other person the ability to walk away." Her: "Oh my god! I am so sorry! This is the same reason my ex left me! Please forgive me!" Me: "Your ex left you because of your chatting? Hahahahahahahahahaha" Her: "Yes, he was always complaining we were having a special moment and then I began to chat. He said I was addicted to my phone and Wechat. I am trying to stop, but it's so difficult. Me: "Yes, it's very rude. I'd leave you too if you were ruining everything with this poo poo." Her: "Ok, I am sorry! Can we please just continue? I don't want to go home." Since she didn't know my area, I took her for a loop around the block. She had no sense of space and where we were going. We rounded a corner and one of the Metro exits came into view, and I pointed at it and said "There's your station, have a good night! Dhanyavad!" (Hindi for 'thanks a lot'). "WHAT? WHERE ARE YOU GOING? WHAT DOES THAT WORD MEAN? WHY????????????" I kept walking and she didn't follow me. About five minutes later I get a flurry of about twenty messages in Wechat and a bunch of one-minute-long voice messages trying to explain how badly she had failed in her last relationship because of her chatting, and if I could just give her one more chance and she won't be addicted to her phone soon and I got it ALL WRONG!!! LOL. I don't care much, but I just think it's dumb to do that while you're face to face with another person. Wait until someone goes to the toilet or something, or mute the drat thing until you're alone. Yorkshire Pudding posted:It's likely just part of Uncle Xi's "Anti Corruption" action. Using state sanctioned powers to steal money from people who could potentially be rivals or dissidents is about as old a trick as there is.
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Automatic Slim posted:Will it work? I thought the party apparatus had safe guards against these kind of power moves. Is the CCP going to bend over and take this or are they going to get a share of Xi's good fortune and power? No idea if it's going to work, or if Xi is truely trying to do that (all signals point to "yes"), but when you've arrested and disappeared anyone who might have protested your power moves, other tend to keep their heads down. He's been slowly moving in this direction from the instant he took over for Hu, and he still has half of his "state limited" reign to change things. One interesting thing to note is that many believe that Jiang Zemin has been the de-facto leader of China since he left office, since he had so heavily stacked the government and military in his favour. The instant Xi was sure he had sacked and arrested enough of Jiang's cronies, he placed him under arrest. While he might not literally sit in his current position for longer than his term, he might just pull a "Jiang" and just run the country from behind the curtains.
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Facebook Aunt posted:Are they going to throw the new Dalai Lama kid in prison? If the situation in Tibet hasn't improved significantly by the time such things become necessary, the 15th Dalai Lama will definitely be found outside of Tibet- perhaps in the Tibetan exile settlements in India. A group of the highest lamas from each school of Tibetan Buddhism will sign off on this child, a scene that will contrast very strikingly with the lack of influential lamas present at the Jokhang ceremony choreographed by Beijing when they unveil their rival Dalai Lama. Just like their Panchen Lama, Beijing will find their Dalai Lama almost completely useless. His mere existence will be an affront to the vast majority of Tibetans, and any attempt to force Tibetans to treat him as an object of veneration will trigger further instability across Tibet- see, for example, how even decades after the real Panchen Lama was forcibly disappeared by Beijing, calls for his release remain common at Tibetan demonstrations, and in the words of self-immolators.
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Haier posted:Why is it soooooooooooooooooo common here that people can't read a map and follow the little arrow showing them that's their location? Countless dumbos have been completely unaware about how to read a map or use GPS location or follow the route that the app makes for them. It's mind boggling to me. I thought the chinese government made large parts of their gps roadmap data wrong on purpose and if I ever heard a reason I forgot it. I mean in other countries it's to test for copyright infringement, i.e., you stole our maps, there's no such thing as gotcha, motherfuckers boulevard.
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Haier posted:
lol a girl at the bar one time added me on wechat look around while she was on a date with a guy at the bar and messaged me asking if I had a girlfriend and if I was down to bang. I messaged her back "isn't that you on a date with the guy at the table near the door?" And she was like "yeah but he's not my boyfriend" She banged my roommate later that week and he said he regretted it and I told him my story and he said I had more willpower than he did, heh
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Its off near important stuff so you can't cruise missile it using baidu maps. The rest of the time its pretty accurate, but map reading seems to be a skill many people lack.
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My girlfriend is loving useless with maps, if she is using baidu maps she has to stare at her phone, walks about 5 meters, looks up and spins in circles looking confused, then back to staring at the map and shuffling along another couple of meters and repeat. Even if its on a straight road and there is only one direction to go she does this. I look at the map for 5 seconds and tell her where to go but she never believes me, I have never been wrong but she still never listens. Another thing she will do is if we are looking for somewhere and I see it and point it out she will stop and squint and blindly walk sideways into the middle of the road trying to get a better angle to see it, if you ask her why she doesnt just keep walking she will say no it might not be the right place even if we are walking in that direction anyway.
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Maybe it's different now but when I was first in Thailand if you got a map out to show a cabbie he'd stare at it in this total state of puzzlement and almost distrust, slowly turning it in his hands, sounding out whatever words he found i on it in Thai, and so far as I could tell never aware for an instant that the lines squiggled all over the paper were anything more than doodles. I guess at some point we're taught how to use road maps in the West because seeing one of those guys try to figure out what a map was was like watching a monkey try to work a pressure cooker. raton fucked around with this message at 08:06 on Feb 7, 2017 |
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Sheep-Goats posted:Maybe it's different now but when I was first in Thailand if you got a map out to show a cabbie he'd stare at it in this total state of puzzlement and almost distrust, slowly turning it in his hands, sounding out whatever words he found i on it in Thai, and so far as I could tell never aware for an instant that the lines squiggled all over the paper were anything more than doodles. I think they might just not be able to read? Quite often if I gave them an address written in Thai they would just look at it confused and I'd have to call someone to get them to say it for them then they'd understand.
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Anyone have the video of the malnourished slantpoor who can't can't grip the IPhone parts right? That one cracks me up every time
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Blistex posted:No idea if it's going to work, or if Xi is truely trying to do that (all signals point to "yes"), but when you've arrested and disappeared anyone who might have protested your power moves, other tend to keep their heads down. He's been slowly moving in this direction from the instant he took over for Hu, and he still has half of his "state limited" reign to change things. One interesting thing to note is that many believe that Jiang Zemin has been the de-facto leader of China since he left office, since he had so heavily stacked the government and military in his favour. The instant Xi was sure he had sacked and arrested enough of Jiang's cronies, he placed him under arrest. While he might not literally sit in his current position for longer than his term, he might just pull a "Jiang" and just run the country from behind the curtains. I never knew this was the fate of Jiang's political machine. Smart on Xi's part. I only knew that Jiang was seen as overstaying his welcome.
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Jimmy Little Balls posted:I think they might just not be able to read? Quite often if I gave them an address written in Thai they would just look at it confused and I'd have to call someone to get them to say it for them then they'd understand. I think they can read, I just think they have no conception that such a thing as a map has been birthed by mankind. But I'm not sure.
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Sheep-Goats posted:I think they can read, I just think they have no conception that such a thing as a map has been birthed by mankind. But I'm not sure. A while back google maps revamped how suggested routes are displayed and it really confused me the first few times I used the new system. I guess it looks better on mobile devices this way? (At the time I just looked up the map on my desktop and printed it out on a B&W printer, and the new design was poo poo for my purposes.) Anyway, my point is even if you are familiar with maps in general, an unfamiliar map style can still be incomprehensible at first.
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Back in antiquity, people used the landmarks on the shoreline for maritime travel. If your thais have such a premodern spatial conception, try using landmarks to tell them where to go. Straight to Wat Kittyporn, then right at the intersection, straight to Nongpantsdown
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Haier posted:"There's your station, have a good night! Dhanyavad!" (Hindi for 'thanks a lot'). "WHAT? WHERE ARE YOU GOING? WHAT DOES THAT WORD MEAN? WHY????????????" This is like the most bizarre humble brag.
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Facebook Aunt posted:A while back google maps revamped how suggested routes are displayed and it really confused me the first few times I used the new system. I guess it looks better on mobile devices this way? (At the time I just looked up the map on my desktop and printed it out on a B&W printer, and the new design was poo poo for my purposes.) Anyway, my point is even if you are familiar with maps in general, an unfamiliar map style can still be incomprehensible at first. This is a street map of Bangkok, that you are showing to a taxi driver, in Bangkok.
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JaucheCharly posted:Back in antiquity, people used the landmarks on the shoreline for maritime travel. If your thais have such a premodern spatial conception, try using landmarks to tell them where to go. Straight to Wat Kittyporn, then right at the intersection, straight to Nongpantsdown The Thois mate I'll just call me missus
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The Great Autismo! posted:lol a girl at the bar one time added me on wechat look around while she was on a date with a guy at the bar and messaged me asking if I had a girlfriend and if I was down to bang. I messaged her back "isn't that you on a date with the guy at the table near the door?" And she was like "yeah but he's not my boyfriend" Jimmy Little Balls posted:My girlfriend is loving useless with maps, if she is using baidu maps she has to stare at her phone, walks about 5 meters, looks up and spins in circles looking confused, then back to staring at the map and shuffling along another couple of meters and repeat. Even if its on a straight road and there is only one direction to go she does this. I look at the map for 5 seconds and tell her where to go but she never believes me, I have never been wrong but she still never listens. Another thing she will do is if we are looking for somewhere and I see it and point it out she will stop and squint and blindly walk sideways into the middle of the road trying to get a better angle to see it, if you ask her why she doesnt just keep walking she will say no it might not be the right place even if we are walking in that direction anyway. Dissapointed Owl posted:This is like the most bizarre humble brag.
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Haier posted:How on Earth is that a brag at all? "Thanks" in another language is forbidden? Especially since I took Hindi lessons and have lived in India for years. I said it to confuse her, and it worked. I often do this here when I want to be annoying. I throw in a word or phrase from somewhere else and don't explain myself, and they have to question if maybe their English skills are lacking. I do this too except I make up a language and make like a hex sign too. Gives em a story, that's for sure
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Haier posted:How on Earth is that a brag at all? "Thanks" in another language is forbidden? Especially since I took Hindi lessons and have lived in India for years. I said it to confuse her, and it worked. I often do this here when I want to be annoying. I throw in a word or phrase from somewhere else and don't explain myself, and they have to question if maybe their English skills are lacking. It must be shocking when they run in to foreigners that a language other than English. They're used to be being able to speak some English to a foreigner's face, than Chinese behind their backs. But what do they do when the foreigner speaks a language other than English??
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Haier posted:How on Earth is that a brag at all? "Thanks" in another language is forbidden? Especially since I took Hindi lessons and have lived in India for years. I said it to confuse her, and it worked. I often do this here when I want to be annoying. I throw in a word or phrase from somewhere else and don't explain myself, and they have to question if maybe their English skills are lacking. You're way too old to be such a goddamn child, holy moly.
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Sheep-Goats posted:This is a street map of Bangkok, that you are showing to a taxi driver, in Bangkok. Many of the cab drivers I used in Bangkok were actually from lovely mountain villages and they had no idea of anything outside the route between Khao San and the airport. The tuktuk bros were more likely to be local/familiar. I always wondered if the multiple flipped over taxis on the way to the airport were a frequent occurrence or if they just left wrecks abandoned until scrap pickers took it away.
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Dissapointed Owl posted:You're way too old to be such a goddamn child, holy moly. Don't be such a meany. Oide Eule.
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You literally do get better results in Bangkok giving people landmarks instead of a map, that's just how they prefer to navigate. I do get it in that sense of, like, they're happier using their experience (when they have it) and saying "okay this foreigner lives near [temple/landmark/large, named apartment building]" rather than relying on Bangkok street addresses and GPS since the addresses often don't make sense and the streets are laid out in a pretty chaotic way. Every so often you get Somchai Buffalohead from the sticks who has to stop and ask directions, though.
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Dissapointed Owl posted:You're way too old to be such a goddamn child, holy moly.
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I've definitely noticed a lot of people in shanghai haven't figured out the concept where you only need to look in a few specific places to get most of the information you need about something. Like skimming a newspaper article or a textbook, over time you pick up what parts to look at and you've got 80% of the story. The same thing applies with navigation and few people here get it. When you come down the stairs/escalator to the subway platform, shoot a glance above the gates on either side and you've got a map with train direction and your current location. Or in beijing shoot a glance at the columns when you get downstairs. Local-style is instead to sprint back and forth to any open subway cars while gawking, even if you've lived there for years. When you get on the subway, glance above the door and you've got a route map that takes a few seconds to review. Local style is instead to lean over the guy in front of you and shove your face super close while you carefully read every stop's name aloud and maybe do some math for about 25 seconds. When you're checking a map on the street and need to figure out what road you're actually on, go to any intersection and glance at the big signs for names and cardinal directions - it's wicked easy. Local-style is, well the posts in this thread where you drown in a dog's water dish because you cant find your way out i swear this has to be a side effect of being conditioned from an early age to Mr Magoo your way through life
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Pirate Radar posted:You literally do get better results in Bangkok giving people landmarks instead of a map, that's just how they prefer to navigate. I do get it in that sense of, like, they're happier using their experience (when they have it) and saying "okay this foreigner lives near [temple/landmark/large, named apartment building]" rather than relying on Bangkok street addresses and GPS since the addresses often don't make sense and the streets are laid out in a pretty chaotic way. My friends lived on the same soi as a notorious brothel (at the other end of it, but still) and they frequently got the Thai equivalent of "VERY NICE *wink* *wink* *nudge* *nudge*" when telling cabbies to take them home. I found the lack of map skills cropped up sometimes, especially in rural areas. I don't think it was not understanding the text (actual illiteracy is not super common unless you're in an area with some pretty insular [or marginalised] ethnic minorities), but having trouble with the concept, which makes sense if you haven't been exposed to it much.
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