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Mind_Taker posted:Someone should offer-sheet Gostisbehere this offseason but it'll never happen. For instance, would the Flyers be willing to match a $5M contract for 6 years or would they just take the first and third as compensation? It has to be the Predators if it's anybody at all
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Dale Ouise posted:Posting this now so I can quote it later
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Shawn Cotureier posted:http://www.broadstreethockey.com/2017/2/7/14543784/notes-from-flyers-town-hall-meeting quote:Asked if Hak was going to be fired and whether Hak was aggressive enough to coach in a city like Phila. Homer defended Hak, said he does things behind closed doors we don't see. Said Hak is not going anywhere, is part of the longterm plan for the team. quote:- Became very angry when someone asked how far the Flyers are away from Capitals and Penguins. Said they can compete with any team in the NHL. That was the last question directed to him. He left the room somewhat flustered. Looked like he was happy to get out of the room. lol
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Shawn Cotureier posted:http://www.broadstreethockey.com/2017/2/7/14543784/notes-from-flyers-town-hall-meeting Meritocracy is a myth.
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Well I wouldn't expect Homer to say he's not longterm, that's just PR 101. I do think Hak survives this season, but all bets are off for next. He'll be coach to start the year, but might not finish it.
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Mind_Taker posted:Someone should offer-sheet Gostisbehere this offseason but it'll never happen. For instance, would the Flyers be willing to match a $5M contract for 6 years or would they just take the first and third as compensation? Vegas can negotiate with RFA and UFA players a couple days ahead of the expansion draft and sign guys instead of drafting someone from that team.
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https://twitter.com/JeffVeillette/status/829129869262979078 Reminder that the Leafs dynasty is starting soon.
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Good Soldier Svejk posted:Brent Burns has 10 more goals than the next leading defenseman (holy jesus he's having some season I guess) Only Crosby and McDavid have more points than him. Holy poo poo.
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I don't get it, does AMac know some deep dark secret of Hakstol's or something 
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I can understand not wanting to openly trash your players at an event like this, but jesus christ Hak come on now.
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At this point there has to be some personal issue or issue we don't know about as to why players are getting scratched (Flyers). Someone parties too much or is perceived to not be a team player by Hak or something.
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Feb 8, 2017 13:34
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Yeah Hexy is hinting at some manner of behavior problem with Ghost, but sitting 3 straight games can't help but make me wonder if something else is going on.
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Feb 8, 2017 14:17
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https://twitter.com/snstats/status/829176677955727361 Surely it will end well this time
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Feb 8, 2017 14:52
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The one thing I'm latching on to to keep the hope alive is that I don't recall them keeping opponents from scoring so well last year. Seems like we've have a pretty ridiculous number of 4-0, 5-1, kind of games.
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Pavelec has allowed 3 goals in every game he's started this year. And yet Maurice starts him over Helly because he makes 'timely saves'.
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Drunk Canuck posted:https://twitter.com/JeffVeillette/status/829129869262979078 Nah. Every Canadian team as of late tends to fall apart once the post season rolls around. I don't see why- Ok, that's a sweet pass, sure, but can they do it when it counts?
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Duck Rodgers posted:Pavelec has allowed 3 goals in every game he's started this year. And yet Maurice starts him over Helly because he makes 'timely saves'. quote:COLUMBUS BLUE JACKETS (33-13-5, 71 points) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0DGjXE_BQQ ...unrelated, Brendan Smith would be interesting given his high hit on Josh Anderson last night and everyone wanting to kill him, right down to he and Hartnell throwing them at the end of regulation but not actually fighting.
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z0331 posted:The one thing I'm latching on to to keep the hope alive is that I don't recall them keeping opponents from scoring so well last year. Seems like we've have a pretty ridiculous number of 4-0, 5-1, kind of games. Yeah the caps have gotten a ton better defensively over the last couple years from what I've seen.
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z0331 posted:The one thing I'm latching on to to keep the hope alive is that I don't recall them keeping opponents from scoring so well last year. Seems like we've have a pretty ridiculous number of 4-0, 5-1, kind of games. I've actually noticed something a little different. Obviously they have really good defensive depth and a Vezina goaltender and that is always going to keep the goals against numbers down, but instead of sitting back like they did for much of last year they've shifted to all-out attacking hockey over the past 2 months or so. For the most part they are trying to blow out opponents instead of trying to grind out 2-1 wins like they did the prior two seasons under Trotz. Sometimes it will lead to games like the 8-7 OTL against Pittsburgh or the 5-4 OT win against Toronto, but it's also going to lead to ridiculous blowouts in their favor. I'm extremely encouraged by the fact that Trotz has decided to let his players play an offense-first system and rely on a stud goaltender to cover up any defensive mistakes that may result. Also it can't be overstated how much of an upgrade Lars Eller is over Mike Richards and how good Dmitry Orlov and Nate Schmidt have been in transition. Yes their PDO is sky-high right now, but their underlying possession numbers are excellent as well. Hopefully they don't do anything dumb like acquire Mike Weber to replace Orlov or Schmidt in the lineup in the postseason!
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Mind_Taker posted:but instead of sitting back... they've shifted to all-out attacking hockey A team with a bunch of offensive weapons using them as such? Boy that must be nice! 
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iospace posted:Nah. Every Canadian team as of late tends to fall apart once the post season rolls around. I don't see why- Mitch Marner is the truth, which is why I'm going to be really upset in the future during the playoffs when defenders just drop their sticks to punch him in the face and put him in an arm bar every time he enters the zone, with the refs looking the other way because "playoff hockey" and such.
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Mind_Taker posted:I've actually noticed something a little different. Obviously they have really good defensive depth and a Vezina goaltender and that is always going to keep the goals against numbers down, but instead of sitting back like they did for much of last year they've shifted to all-out attacking hockey over the past 2 months or so. For the most part they are trying to blow out opponents instead of trying to grind out 2-1 wins like they did the prior two seasons under Trotz. Sometimes it will lead to games like the 8-7 OTL against Pittsburgh or the 5-4 OT win against Toronto, but it's also going to lead to ridiculous blowouts in their favor. I'm extremely encouraged by the fact that Trotz has decided to let his players play an offense-first system and rely on a stud goaltender to cover up any defensive mistakes that may result. They made it through the All Star break, now they have to make it through the bye week. If they come back from that and still look the same, there's hope.
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Shawn Cotureier posted:These ESL kids are getting in on the ground floor Haven't posted in here a while but lmao I'm not even watching the games really because of other stuff to do but also because the Flyers are utter piss and Hakstol needs to go
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DJExile posted:Yeah Hexy is hinting at some manner of behavior problem with Ghost, but sitting 3 straight games can't help but make me wonder if something else is going on.
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I mean he's like, what, 22 or 23? It wouldn't surprise me if he feels like he doesn't have to work any harder because of how well he played last year. Not that I'm much older than him, but young people are stupid. I'm actually pretty stupid too. Anyway, it's still probably dumb to sit him.
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CBJSprague24 posted:https://twitter.com/BlueJacketsNHL/status/829166716102049793 Wow, that's a hell of a snipe. Being that far out and on the right angle, there's no reason Mrazek shouldn't have saved that.
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Jamwad Hilder posted:I mean he's like, what, 22 or 23? It wouldn't surprise me if he feels like he doesn't have to work any harder because of how well he played last year. Not that I'm much older than him, but young people are stupid. I'm actually pretty stupid too. shyduck fucked around with this message at 17:31 on Feb 8, 2017 |
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havlat retired https://twitter.com/NHLPA/status/829353010027446272 
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shyduck posted:One thing that I'll bring up about Ghost is something I heard last week at my local hockey shop, which is one that just happens to be frequented by lots of Flyers alumni. Basically his work ethic sucks. He needed to put on muscle over the offseason but didn't do it. That might give credence to the "behavior problem" aspect. I still think he needs to play though. Is there a lazier cliche in sports than "bad work ethic" for a young player? It's thrown about constantly, but I can count on one hand the number of times it has been true. In the vast majority of cases the answer is "players improve at different rates and can stagnate for a bit after having some initial success." Assuming that a drop in performance is suddenly the result of too much partying/not being a team guy instead of a natural part of the ups and downs of a pro career is just lazy. Not everyone is a Sidney Crosby beep boop never stop working machine. It's never hardworking young players that call out their teammates. It's the 33 year old journeymen that don't have a great deal of talent and less assurance of a place in the lineup than their more talented peers. Them or old NHLers that are now in their 50s and 60s and wear rose coloured glasses about their playing days while conveniently forgetting the years drinking on the team bus and chasing rear end because they were hard working pros and definitely not rich, young kids enjoying life because kids these days with their snapchat and selfies amirite?
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Henrik Zetterberg posted:Wow, that's a hell of a snipe. Mrazek missed the exact same shot in OT a few games ago. He seems to over commit to the near post on those shots. Edit: he's like a much worse Crawford Nottherealaborn fucked around with this message at 17:37 on Feb 8, 2017 |
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ThinkTank posted:Is there a lazier cliche in sports than "bad work ethic" for a young player? It's thrown about constantly, but I can count on one hand the number of times it has been true. In the vast majority of cases the answer is "players improve at different rates and can stagnate for a bit after having some initial success." Assuming that a drop in performance is suddenly the result of too much partying/not being a team guy instead of a natural part of the ups and downs of a pro career is just lazy. Not everyone is a Sidney Crosby beep boop never stop working machine. Honestly this pretty true for most situations in life where old people are involved.
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Stretch Marx posted:Honestly this pretty true for most situations in life where old people are involved. Yup, it boils down to the fact that those with responsibility (generally older) are jealous of the unencumbered nature of those without it (the young and carefree). Placing the expectations of a 53 year old family man on a single 22 year old guy leads to situations where Seguin gets traded for a bundle of soiled rags. People do a hell of a lot of growing up and settling down in their twenties, it just requires a modicum of patience to play out.
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ThinkTank posted:People do a hell of a lot of growing up and settling down in their twenties, it just requires a modicum of patience to play out. Well some of them do. *glares at Patrick Kane*
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ThinkTank posted:Yup, it boils down to the fact that those with responsibility (generally older) are jealous of the unencumbered nature of those without it (the young and carefree). Placing the expectations of a 53 year old family man on a single 22 year old guy leads to situations where Seguin gets traded for a bundle of soiled rags. People do a hell of a lot of growing up and settling down in their twenties, it just requires a modicum of patience to play out.
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Eh, it's a big a cliche about athletes at this level for real reasons. Bruce Boudreau was very honest in talking about how if he'd worked harder as a player and not relied on talent he could have had a much more successful pro career. Almost everyone who makes the NHL has always been among the best players on every team they've been on since they were kids and a lot of them could coast a bit. Matt Bradley talked about how he was a skilled goal-scorer type player until he was playing major junior or whatever and that suddenly he had to work his rear end off just to hang. Personally I was never going to play for-real serious hockey, but if I'd actually worked as hard as I've learned to as an adult, I could have played at a much higher level. Hindsight is cruel that way, but I am sure coaches are seeing that in others and trying to do something about it. I agree that straight up benching someone like Ghost is probably hurting both the team and the player more than it's fixing a problem, but I'm willing to believe there's something to the concern given a coach like Hakstol has watched a lot of young players develop.
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Henrik Zetterberg posted:Wow, that's a hell of a snipe. Jones literally said "Screw it" and took the shot without taking time to set it up, too.
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DJExile posted:Yeah Hexy is hinting at some manner of behavior problem with Ghost, but sitting 3 straight games can't help but make me wonder if something else is going on. If he sits him once he must be an idiot, but if he sits him three times maybe he's on to something
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I'm not sure how "didn't add muscle" = "poor work ethic" Didn't DiPi get told to do some thing and all that working out caused his injuries
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