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Vib Rib posted:I guess it's irrelevant because vetting is already a thing and people need to stop acting like the only alternative to this travel ban is to let people stroll in with no paperwork. I do not understand why Democrats hosed up so badly in the messaging on this. It goes way beyond their normal level of fuckuppery.
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Vib Rib posted:Elizabeth Warren tried to read a quote from Coretta Scott King on the Senate floor. She was interrupted by the Senate chair and told to basically shut up, then the majority leader (Mitch McConnell) also told her to shut up. She was banned from reading it aloud. Yeah, other Democrats + Bernie went and read the letter as well (and didn't get silenced; for some reason only the woman was told to shut up), multiple articles are covering it, the letter's being spread everywhere. It backfired massively. Spicer even had to address it in his press conference today (and in typical Spicer fashion did so in the worse way possible, saying that if Coretta Scott King were still alive she'd support Sessions; I hope he gets loving torn apart over that). "Nevertheless, she persisted" is going to be the left's new catchphrase for quite a while. It could be the title of Warren's (auto)biography/her campaign slogan in 2020, really. Mitch and the others hosed up.
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Plan Z posted:It's got the whole gaming comic thing of "Would work with about half the panels removed" but yeah it's at least a sound idea for VG Cats Mainly cause it was blatantly stolen from Dorky. It was hardly original when they did it, though.
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I like how we've all given up on king possum ever paying attention to the thread or the dates of things and just accepted reposts as a fact of life now. Ambitious Spider posted:saw this on my local antifa twitter This looks like an edit, is there an original version of this by someone?
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Angepain posted:I like how we've all given up on king possum ever paying attention to the thread or the dates of things and just accepted reposts as a fact of life now. I put 'em in the same mental category as FAROOQ and PCOS Bill and MisterBibs. Probably senile, definitely not worth trying to get them to change their ways at this point.
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Pants Donkey posted:Preview your posts and use timg tags where necessary In this case, he's a lovely gimmick poster whose gimmick is to flood the thread with pictures and wait for someone to spot the ones he cribbed from earlier posts and complain.
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Roland Jones posted:Spicer even had to address it in his press conference today (and in typical Spicer fashion did so in the worse way possible, saying that if Coretta Scott King were still alive she'd support Sessions; I hope he gets loving torn apart over that). Which is still loving stupid and insulting, but if discussing it with someone who will be willfully disengenerous it might keep them from using it as a trap. World Famous W fucked around with this message at 09:29 on Feb 9, 2017 |
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Jonas Albrecht posted:I do not understand why Democrats hosed up so badly in the messaging on this. It goes way beyond their normal level of fuckuppery. I'm not sure I see how the Democrats have "hosed up" anything with regard to messaging on this subject.
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Discendo Vox posted:I'm not sure I see how the Democrats have "hosed up" anything with regard to messaging on this subject. Democrats are allowing the issue to be framed as "Vetting vs No Vetting" when the reality is "Vetting vs No Travel". Nobody is actually arguing for letting people stroll off a boat and into America, but you wouldn't know that from the Dems.
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World Famous W posted:Actually, he said "he would hope she would support Sessions if alive today" Fair point. I've heard both said and didn't see the actual quote myself until after I posted that. Still, a twelve page letter on why he's awful should put to doubt any rest on the idea that she'd support Sessions among people who aren't either disingenuous assholes or drinking the Kool-Aid.
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Voyager I posted:Democrats are allowing the issue to be framed as "Vetting vs No Vetting" when the reality is "Vetting vs No Travel". Nobody is actually arguing for letting people stroll off a boat and into America, but you wouldn't know that from the Dems. "allowing it to be framed"? Who is framing it this way? How are Democrats able to magically control issue framing? The people who see this as vetting versus none are people who systematically ignore Democrats in the first place. The Democrats have been emphasizing the reality of the situation as much as is humanly possible.
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Voyager I posted:Democrats are allowing the issue to be framed as "Vetting vs No Vetting" when the reality is "Vetting vs No Travel". Nobody is actually arguing for letting people stroll off a boat and into America, but you wouldn't know that from the Dems. "How dare you not prevent people from believing obvious lies!"
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Discendo Vox posted:I'm not sure I see how the Democrats have "hosed up" anything with regard to messaging on this subject. You know, I have a feeling you're right about this. I feel like the "we've got no vetting" narrative goes unopposed, but I'm not sure what's giving me that idea. EDIT: Let me expand a bit on this. This could be my personal bubble, but even my Democrat voting coworkers seem to think we don't do any real vetting. I see Trump and his thralls bring it up all the time, and get very little pushback for it, if any. It has given me a sense that the "no vetting" narrative is winning, despite being objectively false. Jonas Albrecht fucked around with this message at 12:19 on Feb 9, 2017 |
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Emasculator posted:I do love that comic though, it's one of the best all year. The sheer amount of contempt that drips from it is astounding.
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As a craps dealing professional, I am sick that the tools of my occupation were used in a Ramirez cartoon. However, he did get the dice right. You would not believe how often people gently caress up something as commonplace as dice. I must give him credit for that.
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"Nobody who's smart and well-informed enough on any topic to teach it at a post-high-school level seems to agree with me on anything. I wonder why that is? Must be because I'm a persecuted minority." This is clearly an extremely important topic to Tinsley and I hadn't really thought about how clearly based in insecurity it is
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Jonas Albrecht posted:You know, I have a feeling you're right about this. I feel like the "we've got no vetting" narrative goes unopposed, but I'm not sure what's giving me that idea. Yeah the average person out there thinks there's like zero to little vetting of refugees. It's not entirely the fault of Democrat politicians, as I feel the media has completely failed to inform people of what the actual process is. I mean there are people who still think their hero governors can entirely refuse the entry of refugees into their state and beyond one John Oliver bit, I yet to see media outlets challenging the "no vetting" narrative with a "Alright, this is actually how it is" response.
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Red Panels desperately hoping people forget that he supports ISIS. Just a reminder that Red Panels literally supports beheadings for women for having an opinion.
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OldTennisCourt posted:Red Panels desperately hoping people forget that he supports ISIS. That would be a pretty good comic handy to throw at people. Got a link? Not sure which one you're referring to.
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OldTennisCourt posted:Red Panels desperately hoping people forget that he supports ISIS. I think that's more "... So they're not all bad, then" based on ISIS probably wanting to behead Elizabeth Warren than it is actual support.
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Harvey Mantaco posted:That would be a pretty good comic handy to throw at people. Got a link? Not sure which one you're referring to. It's not in simple throwable comic form. It's the comment he added to his yesterday's comic:  quote:On the bright side, feminists in line for beheading.
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Trogdos! posted:the last time this was posted... This dull witted fella says here that he agrees with terrorists who would behead women, which is the only way I can see to interpret this. dougdrums fucked around with this message at 15:36 on Feb 9, 2017 |
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Plan Z posted:Yeah the average person out there thinks there's like zero to little vetting of refugees. It's not entirely the fault of Democrat politicians, as I feel the media has completely failed to inform people of what the actual process is. I mean there are people who still think their hero governors can entirely refuse the entry of refugees into their state and beyond one John Oliver bit, I yet to see media outlets challenging the "no vetting" narrative with a "Alright, this is actually how it is" response. I think Democrat politicians try not to patronize people by explaining the bloody obvious, that refugees are vetted. Problem is, most people are so ignorant that they do need this explained.
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Democrats have acted as if government was full of rational actors working for the betterment of the country as opposed to troglodytes making naked power grabs. They seem to be waking up to the fact that the GOP actually is a bigoted bastion of self-interest, but we'll see if they can commit to years of actual opposition.
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There's been a LOT of really bad comics here, but I can't think of any that reach that particular Red Panels. I mean, he pretty much states he supports the tactics if not the motives of ISIS.
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BarbarianElephant posted:I think Democrat politicians try not to patronize people by explaining the bloody obvious, that refugees are vetted. Problem is, most people are so ignorant that they do need this explained. No one ever went broke (or lost reelection) underestimating the intelligence of the public.
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:As a craps dealing professional, I am sick that the tools of my occupation were used in a Ramirez cartoon. However, he did get the dice right. You would not believe how often people gently caress up something as commonplace as dice. I must give him credit for that. "Dice are random, right? So the arrangement of pips must be random too, cool I don't need a reference." - a bad artist
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The problem with using "they are vetted" as a main argument is that you're implicitly conceding the idea that the issue is really about vetting. You could give every immigrant sodium pentathol and put them on the rack and the conservative argument would still be that we aren't vetting hard enough. Because they don't actually care about vetting, they want a ban on immigration and will use anything as an excuse. Anything you do short of a ban will just be met with "it's not good enough", so the best strategy is to skip around that whole line of distraction and just strike at the heart of the matter, which is that immigration is a net good and we're America, dammit, Statue of Liberty, melting pot and all the rest. It's like torture. You can argue that torture doesn't work, and it's true, but relying on that as your main argument is conceding the idea that efficacy is the primary problem with it (and not that, you know, it's barbaric). It's best used as a supporting point, because it's not really what the argument is or should be about. Lord Hydronium fucked around with this message at 16:40 on Feb 9, 2017 |
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Ambitious Spider posted:saw this on my local antifa twitter any last words gopcha the clown?
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:As a craps dealing professional, I am sick that the tools of my occupation were used in a Ramirez cartoon. However, he did get the dice right. You would not believe how often people gently caress up something as commonplace as dice. I must give him credit for that. Tbf, Ramirez is a professional crap dealer.
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OldTennisCourt posted:That's the lamest Lester ever. What an eyerollingly childish attempt. Yeah the only people who home school are religious nutsos
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