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It's also a huge overpay since the Marlins were only valued at ~$635m IIRC last year.
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Jeffrey Loria going to take that billion dollars and put it into a team in Montreal.
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Sydin posted:It's also a huge overpay since the Marlins were only valued at ~$635m IIRC last year.
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FlamingLiberal posted:Most owners are horrible people anyway so as long as he actually puts money into the team I'm good https://twitter.com/mccoveychron/status/829810943613743105 There's an entire thread there.
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Ammat The Ankh posted:https://twitter.com/mccoveychron/status/829810943613743105 Hahahahaha, holy poo poo. That's like a z-grade after-midnight Cinemax plot hook.
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Ammat The Ankh posted:https://twitter.com/mccoveychron/status/829810943613743105 Yeah but I mean does he approve of the shift?
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Ivanka designed Marlins jerseys
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Popete posted:Ivanka designed Marlins jerseys So they'll look exactly like existing jerseys?
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Popete posted:Ivanka designed Marlins jerseys Don't most teams like to sell their merchandise in stores, though?
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Popete posted:Ivanka designed Marlins jerseys Still won't be uglier than the Diamondbacks unis.
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Ammat The Ankh posted:https://twitter.com/mccoveychron/status/829810943613743105 Someone with more talent and wit than me do a version of "You'll be Back" from Hamilton with Loria as George III, please.
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Feb 10, 2017 01:47
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Hey Man is reporting that Kushner is not involved
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If the Marlins are worth 1.6 BILLION, what the holy hell are the other teams worth?
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will_colorado posted:If the Marlins are worth 1.6 BILLION, what the holy hell are the other teams worth? Other teams don't have Ichiro, so $0
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will_colorado posted:If the Marlins are worth 1.6 BILLION, what the holy hell are the other teams worth? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dP4DyEIawT8
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Dr. Angela Ziegler posted:Other teams don't have Ichiro, so $0 Truth
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$1.4 billion of that is the home run fish sculpture
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will_colorado posted:If the Marlins are worth 1.6 BILLION, what the holy hell are the other teams worth? Forbes has all team valuations. The top 10: Yankees: 3.4b Dodgers: 2.5b (but a -72.8m operating income  )Red Sox: 2.3b Giants: 2.25b Cubs: 2.2b Mets: 1.65b Cardinals: 1.6b (A "small market team" that apparently needs competitive balance picks  )Angels: 1.34b Nationals: 1.3b Phillies: 1.235b The Marlins are valued at 675m, the second lowest among MLB teams and only more than the Rays. Obviously that doesn't factor in everything like TV deals as mentioned earlier, but it still feels like a gross overpay. e. Also the Marlins still owe Stanton $298.5m through 2028, which is almost 1/3 of what the Marlins as an entire franchise are worth 
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St. Louis proper is as small as it is largely because of white flight. I love my team and all but god drat, St. Louis getting additional draft picks indirectly because of how racist its population has been is pretty hosed.
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Well, actually, baseball teams aren't worth a plugged nickel because they all lose money every year. And that's why we need a salary cap.
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Pancakes posted:St. Louis proper is as small as it is largely because of white flight. I love my team and all but god drat, St. Louis getting additional draft picks indirectly because of how racist its population has been is pretty hosed. I'm 1000% sure it's based off the metro area and not size of the city the team is in otherwise Texas would be getting every kind of competitive balance advantage.
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The Pussy Boss posted:Well, actually, baseball teams aren't worth a plugged nickel because they all lose money every year. And that's why we need a salary cap. According to Forbes, The Dodgers, Phillies, and Rangers were the only teams in 2016 to operate at a loss.
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This seems to be a minority opinion but I'm all for shortening up regular season extra innings games and lowering stress on bullpens by starting a runner on 2nd. It actually reminds me of how a local youth league handles extras: One final half-inning played, home team gets to decide whether to bat or field. Team in the field is spotted two runs, batting team chooses a spot in the lineup to bat and the three batters behind the hitter load the bases. Batting team must score three runs to win, tie games go to the team in the field.
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CubsWoo posted:This seems to be a minority opinion but I'm all for shortening up regular season extra innings games and lowering stress on bullpens by starting a runner on 2nd. It actually reminds me of how a local youth league handles extras: I'd prefer to start it in the 11th, and not at all in the playoffs, but it's not really all that awful an idea. I'd prefer to start with less drastic things, like limiting meetings between pitchers and, well, anyone else, pitch clocks, not letting batters go through 10 second warmup routines between pitches, etc.
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Baseball really went wrong when the umpire stopped sitting in a comfortable rocking chair off to the side. We could also solve money problems by not wasting money having more than one ball a game.
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elentar posted:$1.4 billion of that is the home run fish sculpture Worth every penny imo
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The Marlins are just a really weird organization. Like from the start, everything about them - leadership decisions, incredible successes over the years and equally incredible failing seasons. I do not understand the Marlins. Every year, I have no idea if they're going to win the WS or live in the dumpster.
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Tom Gorman posted:The Marlins are just a really weird organization. Marlins traded away Miguel Cabrera for 1.9 WAR out of Cameron Maybin and traded Mike Piazza for Garry Goetz.
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N: Otani was in Mesa AZ visiting the Cubs Training Camp, on the 8th. http://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/hl?a=20170210-00000518-sanspo-base V: EDIT: Looks like 60mins is doing a pice on him too. ScottyJSno fucked around with this message at 07:30 on Feb 10, 2017 |
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ScottyJSno posted:N: Otani was in Mesa AZ visiting the Cubs Training Camp, on the 8th. That's great and all but if he's serious about jumping to the MLB in 2018 regardless of the new IA cap there's no way the Cubs will be able to sign him, since they'll still be in the penalty box and won't be able to spend more than $300k until after the 2017-18 spending period. The only way the Cubs could feasibly sign him is if a) he waited until after 2018 to be posted or b) MLB folded and made an exception to treat him as a regular free agent, in which case the Cubs could spend whatever they want on him.
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Sydin posted:That's great and all but if he's serious about jumping to the MLB in 2018 regardless of the new IA cap there's no way the Cubs will be able to sign him, since they'll still be in the penalty box and won't be able to spend more than $300k until after the 2017-18 spending period. The only way the Cubs could feasibly sign him is if a) he waited until after 2018 to be posted or b) MLB folded and made an exception to treat him as a regular free agent, in which case the Cubs could spend whatever they want on him. How likely is Darvish to re-sign with the Rangers? If the Rangers re-sign Darvish, and they have the money I think Otani will go to Texas. They seem to be good friends, and train together. If everyone can only offer equal money why not go where your friend is? Unless Darvish hates the Rangers and heat and warns him off.
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How does pay work in the instance of a minor league player making minor league salary getting called up to the big club for a few games? Does he get a prorated salary based on the number of games played and the league minimum? Or does a call up to the big leagues even for a few games get you the league minimum?
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LonesomeCrowdedWest posted:How does pay work in the instance of a minor league player making minor league salary getting called up to the big club for a few games? Does he get a prorated salary based on the number of games played and the league minimum? Or does a call up to the big leagues even for a few games get you the league minimum? I thought it was once they put em on the 40 man, they get league min and start their service time clock. Then unless you are DFA, 3 years later (give or take a super 2), they have arbitration whether you are on the minor league team or pro team. That sound right? ScottyJSno fucked around with this message at 08:16 on Feb 10, 2017 |
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Tom Gorman posted:The Marlins are just a really weird organization.
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if you like baseball, gambling, and politics: https://www.predictit.org/Contract/5432/Will-Trump-throw-out-a-ceremonial-first-pitch-on-Major-League-Baseball
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Crazy Ted posted:And let's not forget that absolute fuckery that led to Loria becoming the Marlins owner. And also lets' not forget that the man who owned the Marlins before him went on to sell the Dolphins in 2008/09 or so because he literally thought that Barack Obama was literally going to use the Oval Office to literally tax him out of all of his money so he figured he'd better sell before OMG NEGRO COMMANISM Loria conned his way into Expos ownership after losing his bid to buy the Orioles (according to The Lords of the Realm, Angelos made one last bid and thought his group was going to lose right before Loria backed down) then buddied up to noted collusion fan Bud Selig in order to dump the Expos on MLB with a promise he'd get another shot at a team. He's baseball's Donald Trump. He just won't go the gently caress away as dumb people keep letting him con them out of their money and he's about to get away with robbery again.
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I don't give Loria much credit for the 2003 championship since he had just bought the team. The core players were all signed/scouted when John Henry owned the team. We also haven't made the playoffs in 13 years now which is one of the longer active streaks in MLB.
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CubsWoo posted:This seems to be a minority opinion but I'm all for shortening up regular season extra innings games and lowering stress on bullpens by starting a runner on 2nd. It actually reminds me of how a local youth league handles extras: You just said the MLB should do something local youth leagues do. And I have to disagree with you very strongly on that. My opinion: The only people complaining that baseball games are "boring" and "long" are casual fans that don't enjoy watching baseball anyways. If they get the games to fit into 2.5 hours, those same people will STILL think baseball is boring. Casual fans watch baseball when: the local team is doing well and probably some of the playoffs/WS. Getting the game to fit into a shorter time period probably isn't going to change that. The fans they have now watch games because baseball is fun to watch for them.
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