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orcane
Jun 13, 2012

Fun Shoe

quote:

Nope it took long and was annoying. Looked great at first but got in the way of gameplay

I see they've hired people who didn't go to the Chris Roberts School of Fidelitious Immersion.

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FronzelNeekburm
Jun 1, 2001

STOP, MORTTIME

quote:

Power Armor. Vetra’s custom armor hardens and activates reinforced shields, providing her with unrivaled protection.

Detonatin' the tech armor. :sicknasty:

Career
Mar 27, 2010

steakmancer posted:

I don't know what kind of brain disease I have but DA2 is my favorite Dragon Age. To me it's so much more than the sum of it's awful, wrong-headed parts and I can't figure out why.

Because you weren't saving the world from incredibly uninteresting villains in a generic fantasy world? The execution of DA2 may have been lacking, but I thought confining the action to a city over a definable period of time, with the possibility of seeing how our actions butterfly-effected out over the years, was really cool. In theory, at least, since most of the decisions were railroaded. But not all of them were, and the friend-rival system was a great way of showing how alternate paths of influence could shape the lives of your companions... even if the character writing left a lot to be desired.

Still, even when DA2 descended into grade-Z schlock, it was never above making fun of itself. For a game where you're the savior of the world but are expected to spend your time doing fetch quests and picking Elfroot, DA:I took itself way too seriously. For me, it's best (better? only good?) moments are the looser, more character-oriented quests like the royal ball in Orlais. In general, I don't think Imminent Threat To The World plots play into Bioware's traditional strengths of immersive sidequests and relaxed companion interaction.

Which is why I hope ME:A will keep that sort of thing to a minimum. For me, "pioneers learning to find our place in a new world" is a completely satisfactory main plot without a megalomaniac villain or ancient evil to fight.

TheTrend
Feb 4, 2005
I have a descriminating toe


This is so late, but I'm proud of you for bringing a mma gif into a terrible games thread.

JawKnee
Mar 24, 2007





You'll take the ride to leave this town along that yellow line

TheTrend posted:

This is so late, but I'm proud of you for bringing a mma gif into a terrible games thread.

bringing a terrible games gif into a terrible games thread

Crabtree
Oct 17, 2012

ARRRGH! Get that wallet out!
Everybody: Lowtax in a Pickle!
Pickle! Pickle! Pickle! Pickle!

Dinosaur Gum
Just give me a set of Rolling Thunder space Aviators I can have the whole team wear. Nothing special or stat important, just looks good.

Hobo Clown
Oct 16, 2012

Here it is, Baby.
Your killer track.




Wasn't there some in-game reason for why the main races evolved along similar paths? Prothean DNA or Reaper meddling or something causing most of the major players to be bipedal, 2 eyes, 2 arms, able to gently caress each other, etc. I always thought that was the case and I can't remember why, and I'm wondering if that's meant to be significant that these unknown Andromeda races are also similar.

exquisite tea
Apr 21, 2007

Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."


Hobo Clown posted:

Wasn't there some in-game reason for why the main races evolved along similar paths? Prothean DNA or Reaper meddling or something causing most of the major players to be bipedal, 2 eyes, 2 arms, able to gently caress each other, etc. I always thought that was the case and I can't remember why, and I'm wondering if that's meant to be significant that these unknown Andromeda races are also similar.

Sovereign implies that all the galactic races were so similar because the Reapers induced them to evolve along those lines for some easy reapin'. But now, welp.

Serf
May 5, 2011


Hobo Clown posted:

Wasn't there some in-game reason for why the main races evolved along similar paths? Prothean DNA or Reaper meddling or something causing most of the major players to be bipedal, 2 eyes, 2 arms, able to gently caress each other, etc. I always thought that was the case and I can't remember why, and I'm wondering if that's meant to be significant that these unknown Andromeda races are also similar.

The fact is that its hard to come up with alien aliens, and it's a lot of work for not that much reward.

The games do have the elcor and the hanar, which are the most interesting of the alien species just for how non-human they are. Still I'd love to see them actually doing stuff besides standing in one place.

Eastbound Spider
Jan 2, 2011



Hobo Clown posted:

Wasn't there some in-game reason for why the main races evolved along similar paths? Prothean DNA or Reaper meddling or something causing most of the major players to be bipedal, 2 eyes, 2 arms, able to gently caress each other, etc. I always thought that was the case and I can't remember why, and I'm wondering if that's meant to be significant that these unknown Andromeda races are also similar.

Bioware are bad at animations.

exquisite tea
Apr 21, 2007

Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."


The Bioware Air Quote spans all galaxies and epochs.

SgtSteel91
Oct 21, 2010

Hobo Clown posted:

Wasn't there some in-game reason for why the main races evolved along similar paths? Prothean DNA or Reaper meddling or something causing most of the major players to be bipedal, 2 eyes, 2 arms, able to gently caress each other, etc. I always thought that was the case and I can't remember why, and I'm wondering if that's meant to be significant that these unknown Andromeda races are also similar.

No, they just developed technology similar to the Reapers because the Reapers left some of it behind to be discovered.

Trast
Oct 20, 2010

Three games, thousands of playthroughs. 90% of the players don't know I exist. Still a redhead saving the galaxy with a [Right Hook].

:edi:

marshmallow creep posted:

Isn't turian skin partially metal to reflect the harsh radiation in their homeworld?

Also she is quite tall, so that adds to it.

Birds have light, hollow bones so if turians are bird aliens that tracks.

Kurieg
Jul 19, 2012

RIP Lutri: 5/19/20-4/2/20
:blizz::gamefreak:

exquisite tea posted:

The Bioware Air Quote spans all galaxies and epochs.

I'm still mad that you can't shove that back in the Turian councilor's face. "Oh god Palaven is on fire you need to help." "Ahh yes 'palaven'."

exquisite tea
Apr 21, 2007

Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."


Given Bioware's categorical obsession with internet memes and callbacks, its absence from the game is really jarring.

BexGu
Jan 9, 2004

This fucking day....

Trast posted:

Birds have light, hollow bones so if turians are bird aliens that tracks.

Bird/Dinosaurs aliens. Really did like the original races design where there is a clear difference between races that where predators compare to prey.

quote:

Turians typically stand over six feet tall, have two long, proportionately thick fingers and an opposable thumb on each hand, each tipped with talons, and a set of mandibles around their mouths. The most distinguishing feature of turians is their metallic carapace, which contains trace amounts of thulium. The turians evolved this trait as a defense against the greater levels of solar radiation that penetrate their homeworld's weak magnetic field.

Turian features are avian, making them resemble humanoid birds or raptors, however unlike most Earth avian creatures, turians are viviparous and give birth to live young. In 2165, David Anderson claimed that turians reminded him of the evolutionary link between birds and dinosaurs. Turians are also recognisable by their voices, which have a distinctive flanging effect. Males and females do not differ greatly in physical appearance, but female turians lack the crest of horns found in the males of the race. The lifespan of a turian is comparable to that of a human.

Turians exhibit the characteristics of predators rather than those of prey species (compare to krogan biology). Their forward-facing alert eyes give the impression that they possess outstanding eyesight and their teeth and jaws mimic the structures possessed by apex predators such as crocodiles or ancient, carnivorous dinosaurs. Needless to say, their talons on both their feet and hands seem capable of ripping flesh. As such, their diet is primarily meat-based. Their slender bodies also seem to suggest that they are also capable of moving at high speeds.

Teron D Amun
Oct 9, 2010

exquisite tea posted:

Sovereign implies that all the galactic races were so similar because the Reapers induced them to evolve along those lines for some easy reapin'. But now, welp.

not sure if he meant biologically evolve along those paths and more like technically evolve alongside the paths they desire so those races cant ever beat them

Moral_Hazard
Aug 21, 2012

Rich Kid of Insurancegram
Echoing what someone posted up the thread, I wouldn't mind some of ME's other species like the volus or bactrians be a companion. There could even be interesting locations where the tenderfoots land on some methane atmosphere world and the volus dude is out of his suit enjoying life in his own environment.

Pattonesque
Jul 15, 2004
johnny jesus and the infield fly rule

MoraleHazard posted:

Echoing what someone posted up the thread, I wouldn't mind some of ME's other species like the volus or bactrians be a companion. There could even be interesting locations where the tenderfoots land on some methane atmosphere world and the volus dude is out of his suit enjoying life in his own environment.

guarantee this is going to happen when another hastily-assembled Ark carrying the rest of the Milky Way species comes barreling in from dark space in the opening moments of Mass Effect: Andromeda 2

exquisite tea
Apr 21, 2007

Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."


Teron D Amun posted:

not sure if he meant biologically evolve along those paths and more like technically evolve alongside the paths they desire so those races cant ever beat them

The line from ME1 is deliberately ambiguous:

Sovereign posted:

Your civilization is based on the technology of the mass relays. Our technology. By using it, your civilization develops along the paths we desire. We impose order on the chaos of organic life. You exist because we allow it, and you will end because we demand it.

Depending on how you read "pathways" you can conclude either that Sovereign physically meant the mass relay network, or that he also was talking about the evolution and emergence of galactic civilization itself. In any case, it's pretty convenient that the Citadel has all these structures and habitats ideal for bipedal humanoids about 5-6 feet tall so that a bunch of them would wanna live there, don't you think.

Thor-Stryker
Nov 11, 2005
Excuse me, do you want interesting alien designs and varied teammates?













Or do you want everything to be bangable?

marshmallow creep
Dec 10, 2008

I've been sitting here for 5 mins trying to think of a joke to make but I just realised the animators of Mass Effect already did it for me

I'm sorry, but humans can look at spiders and snakes and sexualize them. Four appendages etc are not prereqs.

gently caress there's already in universe Hanar porn.

Serf
May 5, 2011


It is a little weird that the Reapers, who are based on the spacesquids, would encourage the development of bipedal species. Its most likely rooted in the difficulty of designing aliens.

upgunned shitpost
Jan 21, 2015

exquisite tea posted:

In any case, it's pretty convenient that the Citadel has all these structures and habitats ideal for bipedal humanoids about 5-6 feet tall so that a bunch of them would wanna live there, don't you think.

I put exactly as much thought into that as the environmental artists did, which is to say none at all really.

Zzulu
May 15, 2009

(▰˘v˘▰)

Thor-Stryker posted:

Excuse me, do you want interesting alien designs and varied teammates?













Or do you want everything to be bangable?

:stare:

MadBimber
Dec 31, 2006
i want a bacteria based teammate. maybe a dino-flagellate, they have appendages

upgunned shitpost
Jan 21, 2015

A dinosaur that keeps hitting itself would just be depressing.

marshmallow creep
Dec 10, 2008

I've been sitting here for 5 mins trying to think of a joke to make but I just realised the animators of Mass Effect already did it for me

I swear I read somewhere that if you're likely going to find spacefaring species, they'll probably evolve around some kind of similar path to us even if they're not exact, but gently caress it's sci-fi so bring on the uplifted psychic sharks and spaceborne komodo dragons or some poo poo.

Also, a "sign-up for the Mass Effect Andromeda open beta" thing is going around but Aaryn Flynn will tell you himself that it's not Bioware.

marshmallow creep fucked around with this message at 00:10 on Feb 11, 2017

IcePhoenix
Sep 18, 2005

Take me to your Shida

marshmallow creep posted:

I'm sorry, but humans can look at spiders and snakes and sexualize them.

Hobo Clown
Oct 16, 2012

Here it is, Baby.
Your killer track.




exquisite tea posted:

Your civilization is based on the technology of the mass relays. Our technology. By using it, your civilization develops along the paths we desire. We impose order on the chaos of organic life. You exist because we allow it, and you will end because we demand it.

That's the line I was remembering, I knew that humanity had been steered a certain way somehow but forgot what it was. Definitely seems to be more technological than biological, but I suppose giving huge advantages to the two-legged races that can actually use the stuff they find is why all the races are so similar. If we see the Kett zipping around in Mass Relays though I guess that means another trilogy of Reaper drama.

marshmallow creep posted:

I'm sorry, but humans can look at spiders and snakes and sexualize them. Four appendages etc are not prereqs.

gently caress there's already in universe Hanar porn.

Shepard would have absolutely hosed an Elcor if she'd been able to get one under her command.

homullus
Mar 27, 2009

jfood posted:

A dinosaur that keeps hitting itself would just be depressing.

:golfclap:

marshmallow creep
Dec 10, 2008

I've been sitting here for 5 mins trying to think of a joke to make but I just realised the animators of Mass Effect already did it for me

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2017-02-10-mass-effect-fans-really-want-to-sleep-with-alien-jaal

quote:

"I am gunna bang that monocle rat lobster."

homullus
Mar 27, 2009


It's only a matter of time before "I am gunna bang that monocle rat lobster" becomes the new thread title.

Skippy McPants
Mar 19, 2009

Hey, tons of people wanted to bang Garrus, and if anything this new dude is a lot more conventionally pretty in the human-looking department.

Serf
May 5, 2011


Garrus could turn his head.

Zore
Sep 21, 2010
willfully illiterate, aggressively miserable sourpuss whose sole raison d’etre is to put other people down for liking the wrong things
So can that dude?

Also his design is basically Twi'lek that tucks his head tentacles into his shirt. Its really not that out there and people have been vocal about banging them forever

Pattonesque
Jul 15, 2004
johnny jesus and the infield fly rule
http://www.pcgamer.com/mass-effect-andromeda-will-have-meaningful-sidequests-akin-to-the-witcher-says-game-producer/

Bioware posted:

"We are approaching the completionist aspect very differently, because we've done and learned a lot from Inquisition," Condominas says. "But we've also observed what other games have been doing, like The Witcher."

Condominas continues, stressing that bigger isn't always better in that sidequests must be "meaningful" in order to be impactful—something The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt in particular carried off particularly well. "And it was very important for us that the quantity of scope doesn't downgrade the quality of whatever your are doing there."

Drifter
Oct 22, 2000

Belated Bear Witness
Soiled Meat

EVERYTHING should rightfully be taken with a pinch of salt the size of the moon.

But yeah, the words they say could be construed as positive, in a roundabout way..

Groetgaffel
Oct 30, 2011

Groetgaffel smacked the living shit out of himself doing 297 points of damage.
I'm more than happy about Bioware taking lessons from the Witcher 3. I am cautiously optimistic about shooting mans in space.

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MadBimber
Dec 31, 2006

Zore posted:

So can that dude?

Also his design is basically Twi'lek that tucks his head tentacles into his shirt. Its really not that out there and people have been vocal about banging them forever

twileks are hot so yeah. cat jowls mcdupeface just looks like bad claymation

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