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The world pawns are irrelevant from a memory consumption perspective. Even on the most bloated, ancient saves they're only taking up a few megabytes (they're a bit larger than that on disk because the save files have to write down a bunch of stuff that's implicit in the code structure). The big problems aren't the things that are being kept around intentionally, but rather the things that aren't. Unity's memory tools are complete poo poo, making it nearly impossible for Tynan & Co to know if they're leaking objects or why. To find the leaks that I fixed in my mod, I had to write my own god drat memory profiler. ZorbaTHut took it and improved upon it, so Ludeon now has a functional memory profiler, which should help a lot going forward.
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Raided some tribals. packed up four prisoners. Butchered the dead and packed up the meat and skins. autosave gave a memory error and when I opened the world map it crashed  I want to raid these pesky tribals dammit!
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I just had a large group of pirates attack. A group of about 10 and one of them had a doomsday launcher, I was pretty nervous. Before they got half way to my base they found a sleeping puppy of mine and all gathered close around it, then shot it point blank with the doomsday rocket killing 9 out of 10 of them instantly and sending the last one fleeing. Good work pirates! I'm shocked there's no minimum rage rule for the AI using that weapon.
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Baronjutter posted:I just had a large group of pirates attack. A group of about 10 and one of them had a doomsday launcher, I was pretty nervous. same except they attacked my sleeping thrumbo (who survived the explosion with serious injuries but no permanent ones) it was HILARIOUS.
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Feb 11, 2017 03:20
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Been there. Sadly I lost the after screenshot. They caught a caravan guard. I looked at it all "na he wouldn't fire at that range" But he did.
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Feb 11, 2017 03:25
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Dejawesp posted:Raided some tribals. packed up four prisoners. Butchered the dead and packed up the meat and skins. autosave gave a memory error and when I opened the world map it crashed How exactly do you kidnap prisoners when you're on a raid? I've not been able to figure it out.
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Feb 11, 2017 03:41
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yoloer420 posted:How exactly do you kidnap prisoners when you're on a raid? I've not been able to figure it out. When you incapacitate the last enemy the map becomes yours. Claim their houses, turn a bedroom into a prison. Bind their wounds until they stop bleeding and then move out. They even help you carry loot. I cut down a few trees and build a butchers bench to harvest the dead while my soldiers rest a bit after the raid. Edit: Visual aid.  Time to leave.  Everyone accounted for.  And the harvest. 
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Feb 11, 2017 03:55
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Coolguye posted:if you are unlucky enough to get nailed with malaria or plague in your first 4 months then yeah that is pretty bad, but beyond that it is eminently doable to navigate that particular problem with no deaths. Yeah this is the issue, my boy randy decided he is going to be randy ravage and has consistently smacked my colonies with plague in the first 2 weeks. When I rage restarted and did a scenario edit to disable plague he went for malaria instead. Thats not even enough time to grow any herbal medicine to treat more then 1 person, and he either goes in pairs or targets the village witch doctor.
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yeah if you're getting nailed by that poo poo in the first month people are gonna die, that blows the big one
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Dejawesp posted:When you incapacitate the last enemy the map becomes yours. Claim their houses, turn a bedroom into a prison. Bind their wounds until they stop bleeding and then move out. They even help you carry loot. I cut down a few trees and build a butchers bench to harvest the dead while my soldiers rest a bit after the raid. You're the real space pirate.
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As entertaining as Dejawesp's posts are (and dear god are they)... I kind of want to see them run a Dwarf Fortress.
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Lprsti99 posted:As entertaining as Dejawesp's posts are (and dear god are they)... I would I would! But god does that game look bad. It's like starring into those Matrix monitors. I don't know if I could handle it. Okay basic base roundup. At first I wanted a rigid cast system for my colony. The population would be split into skilled craftsmen and then conscript fodder. The craftsmen lived near where they performed their task. As skilled craftsmen I counted "Growers" "Doctors" "Cooks" "Crafters" The fodder would then be split into skilled soldiers who had good fighting skills and regular conscripts who where pawns that could neither fight well nor perform any profession very well. The skilled soldiers would then have their own barracks, separate living quarters and better equipment. However I found no real use for skilled soldiers. 30-40 conscripts with armored vests and assault rifles were great for all forms of fighting and splitting the fighting force into different forms of fighting and weapons would just be a headache. So all dedicated soldiers ended up living in the barracks and I tore down the soldier quarters and turned it into an armory instead. My colony capped out at about 80 residents. Of which about 55 were soldiers and the rest were craftsmen. I recruited everyone I could my hands on and then only killed off pyromaniacs, old and infirm people. Those who couldn't really contribute. However I started having severe memory problems and I had to prune my colony a bit. I decided to go with 30 soldiers and then about 12-16 craftsmen. First I killed off all drug addicts because they would often cause trouble by breaking line in the middle of a fight to get high. Or be high when you needed them for something. I then killed off all people with traits that reduced work and movement speed Then I killed off all people who couldn't haul All craftments with less than "burning passion" for their job All the soldiers who didn't have "passion" for ranged fighting All brawlers After that I had the craftsmen I needed and about 35 soldiers. So i killed off a few more soldiers with negative traits and I was down to 27 soldiers (whoops!) The base is now split up into civilians and soldiers. Civilians have red caps and no weapons while the soldiers have Kevlar helmets, armor and weapons. This is because replacing armor for regular wear and tear becomes very expensive in the long run. Civilians also handle weapons poorly and cause a lot of friendly fire so I keep them disarmed. Pictures. From left to right. farm fields, mainly devilstrand and then some corn and healroot. To the right is the graveyard. It's a fledgling baby graveyard now but one day I hope that it will grow into a big beautiful butterfly graveyard.  South section.  The wood floor part is where skilled field staff live. Those who tend the fields  The section with sterile tile is the medical wing. Four large living rooms where the four doctors live. JT and Tail are both doctors and married so they share rooms. Arroyo is a chef but lives with his doctor wife Moyer. To the right of the living quarters is organ and bionics storage. The floor is color coordinated depending on what type of parts they are. Bionic eyes Bionic Arms Bionic Legs Prosthetic arms Prosthetic Legs Power Claws (used as cheap hand replacement) Lungs Hearts Livers Kidneys Below organ storage is the research section. A small medical smokeleaf indoor hydroponics growing area and the drug benches for making medicine. As well as a small stockpile for medical and research equipment. Also the Luciferium that I don't trust to keep in the regular stockpile. Below the doctors living quarters is the hospital ward. As well as a small stockpile for medical supplies. To the left of the ward is the prison. The prison covers the whole west wall of the colony and is separated by a double granite wall and double doors. Each prison cell has a green and a red light which depends on what the prisoner is for. Red means organ harvest and green means recruitment. Dark cells are empty at the moment. To the right of the medical wing is the kitchen (granite tile floors) It has four living rooms for cooks, the kitchen. As well as three freezers. The top freezer is for grains and raw materials. The middle freezer is for raw meat and dead animals, the lower freezer is for meals. To the right of the kitchen is the butchers cabin. The idea is that dead animals are brought in there without going through the rest of the colony.  To the right of the butchers cabin is the courtyard. It has the drop pod launch platforms as well as the mortars. The mortars are modded Devastator Mortas. Each cost about 1600 iron, uses an enormous amounts of power, has a 70 second reload but also fires a volley of six mortars. It balances mortars a bit without having to man them with 30 people and have them take up so much space. To the right of the courtyard is the drop pod supply shed. It also has a freezer where I stored dead bodies while building the graveyard. Behind the sandbags are a few turrets. I barely use turrets because they tend to explode and I like to train soldiers when defending. This is what the courtyard originally looked like. It was a small valley I found while mining out the mountain. I assumed it was solid rock at the time. The graveyard and growing fields are all under solid mountain but I wanted to give them the illusion of being outdoors through the lighting and the design of the field staff quarters having outer wall designs.   Third line of defense. The main entrance to the facility. It has areas where troops can fire from cover but I have never had to use it for fighting. Red lights denote killboxes. The base is cooled by the four coolers located behind the little trench holes right before the main door. All heating for the base is by venting the hot air from the freezers back into the main hall. This is what the outside looks like. It enters into a small valley that only has a single entrance from the south. Originally the exit from the valley was about 5 blocks wide and very good for early defense. I gradually widened it as I needed to fit in more troops to fire on attackers.  This is the first line of defense. Attackers will try to make it across the fields as it is considered less effort than breaking through three granite doors. The gunners on the left side are covered by fire poppers in case an enemy uses fire weapons (they are very useful)  Second line of defense. Two vulcan cannons covered by smaller turrets. The Vulcans are bad at hitting fast moving targets but reliable for something that stands to fight. When a single mad animal shows up I leave it to the second line instead of drafting soldiers.  Sappers will attack these two points sometimes. I reinforced the mountain walls with granite and that made sapper attacks rarer. I also added minefields which tends to kill off the sapper and make the raider attack the main entrance instead.   Back inside. To the left you can see a closeup of the prison. To the right of that is the barracks. At the top is the three craft halls. Left to right: Metal, Cloth, Stone. Below those are the six bedrooms of the skilled crafters. Below the bedrooms is the armory (granite tile floor) The armory used to be the barracks of the skilled soldiers. Which is why it has so much empty space.  Not much to say here. The main stockpile and to the right is the nuclear power generators. The room is chilled to minus 30 Celsius to deter infestation. That is the one room I cannot afford an infestation because those generators are very expensive. Each generate 20.000 power and I need all of them. Another closeup of the prison and barracks.  My main regrets: I should have made all inner walls two blocks thick. Double wide walls are great for design and placing objects like fire poppers, display cases and lights. I should have started the graveyard sooner Dejawesp fucked around with this message at 14:28 on Feb 11, 2017 |
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Baronjutter posted:I just had a large group of pirates attack. A group of about 10 and one of them had a doomsday launcher, I was pretty nervous. 
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Feb 11, 2017 14:48
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Pretty sure the RPG has a minimum arming range.
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:Pretty sure the RPG has a minimum arming range. You made me google that, 5 meters. Are those hard to set or what? I would want at least 20. You can never have too many fire poppers.   
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Feb 11, 2017 18:16
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Today I learnt that slaughtering boomalopes makes them explode  Sorry Simon, but at least you only got burnt a little bit.
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MadJackMcJack posted:Today I learnt that slaughtering boomalopes makes them explode What really? I thought it just happened when they died.
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Feb 11, 2017 19:59
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He hit the unexploded pus packet
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Dejawesp posted:What really? I thought it just happened when they died. Slaughtering, not butchering.
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Lprsti99 posted:Slaughtering, not butchering. Oh yeah the killing blow. Yeah that will explode them.
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Feb 11, 2017 21:53
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Put them in an animal zone far away from anything valuable and shoot them a few times.
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Feb 11, 2017 22:16
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Carcer posted:Put them in an animal zone far away from anything valuable and shoot them a few times. But enough about how best to handle colonists with unfavorable traits.
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Feb 11, 2017 22:19
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The glass roof mod is a lot of fun when combined with insulated walls and steam vents.
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:Pretty sure the RPG has a minimum arming range. Uh, I thought the RPG7 actually didn't have an arming range and was fused by means of a pressure trigger on the nose, the safety mechanism is that the trigger has a plastic screw cap over it that you take off before firing it.
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The arming range of the RPG-7 is indeed 5 metres. Which is especially hilarious because this is true for all 4 or the rocket types. Also for the fragmentation rocket that has a lethal range of 150 metres.
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Whelp, I've hit a new depth. I am now purposefully blinding then administering Luciferium, flake(crack), and go-juice to prisoners and releasing them so that when they come back in the future they will have a ton of drugs on them while simultaneously being hard to kill from the Luceferium effects but extremely poor combatants because they don't have any eyes. As long as I don't literally blow their heads off, they go down, get mended, and released again.
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I don't do hellholes... This screenshot is from A15. This one is from the colony I'm currently playing.  The tribe partying in the kitchen. 
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cugel posted:This one is from the colony I'm currently playing. That is fancy. What are your plans for it in the long run?
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Feb 12, 2017 09:43
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Goatse obviously! Eh, too much work, not this time; I'm waiting for my tribe to research the minigun turret. Maybe several hands holding them.
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Feb 12, 2017 11:54
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You have to at least add the ring to one of the fingers.
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"I don't do hellholes", the player said, before showing off his skull-themed fortress.
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He is a benevolent overlord to his minions. They've got nice beds and proper food and everything.
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I swear I see human leather in the leather stockpile. I know my human leather.
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Feb 12, 2017 14:38
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As long as you get a psychopath to do it there's no effect on your guys. Being nice to your colonists doesn't mean you're nice to anyone else.
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Feb 12, 2017 14:53
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No, it has no effect on the psychopath. Your colonists care about other people.
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I wonder if there's a mod that reduces the penalty for performing unsettling acts over and over again. Maybe the first time you butcher another human being it should really unsettle you, but around the hundredth are you really feeling all that bothered? I mean they did try to kill you after all, and why let the leather go to waste?
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Hmm. Just make sure you only accept psychopaths into your
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:I wonder if there's a mod that reduces the penalty for performing unsettling acts over and over again. Maybe the first time you butcher another human being it should really unsettle you, but around the hundredth are you really feeling all that bothered? I mean they did try to kill you after all, and why let the leather go to waste? Please never let a video game accurately simulate the hedonic treadmill and desensitization.
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Carcer posted:Hmm. Just make sure you only accept psychopaths into your That's what I did. Except for one. She's the experiment.
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