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forkboy84 posted:Yeah, Iraq was a bigger loss of life but Suez was definitely a bigger catastrofuck as far as British reputation went. That was probably the moment that should have popped the bubble of left over delusions of Empire, but sadly that seemed not to happen for a lot of people. It also gave the Soviets free reign to gently caress poo poo up in Hungary, which was bad. The Hungarian revolution of '56 (actually both that one & the one lead by Bela Kun) is something I really need to read more on. Anyway, Brexit could easily end up being worse than Suez.
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jBrereton posted:Don't forget about the mid 50s polish revolution everyone forgets about! Yeah, the one I only know exists because it was what gave the Hungarians the idea that they had more freedom to act than they did. And also it put Gomulka in power, who started quite reforming and then ended up awful, encouraging widespread anti-semitism. Hungary & Czechoslovakia definitely stand stronger in the cultural memory, probably because they were crushed & the Polish one wasn't.
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Zalakwe posted:Two more last night, both from the Tories From the Tories, exactly. One where the LibDems had a councillor in 2010, and the other in the Cotswolds, where only LibDems and Tories have councillors at all.
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Irony Be My Shield posted:I'd be more interested in the comparisons to 2010. I want to see how much of it is just people forgetting that the Lib Dems are duplicitous bastards who will do the opposite of the policy you voted them in for. Much like all politicians.
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The mail continues to gently caress with Gary Lineker apparently. Those fuckers need to be put against the wall.
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I was looking for some content for my thread in NMD (warning: plug), and spotted this motion - http://www.parliament.uk/edm/1997-98/565 . Some familiar names there.
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dex_sda posted:The mail continues to gently caress with Gary Lineker apparently. Those fuckers need to be put against the wall. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4205880/Gary-Lineker-saves-fortune-avoiding-tax-schemes.html http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...r-a7571181.html The Mail see themselves as a Test Your Strength machine, with Lineker being the bell at the top. If they can get rid of him from MOTD, they win, that's their goal.
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HJB posted:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4205880/Gary-Lineker-saves-fortune-avoiding-tax-schemes.html I remember them hilariously running a smear article... about Lineker snogging his newly wed wife on an airplane. Do they think accusation of tax evasion will work, when all the footballers do it and also MOTD is a BBC production? Last I remember Jimmy Carr was doing fine.
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It doesn't need to "work" when it serves as a clear message of "disagree with us? vocal about it? We will try to ruin you then".
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DesperateDan posted:It doesn't need to "work" when it serves as a clear message of "disagree with us? vocal about it? We will try to ruin you then". Fair point. I doubt most people are as squeaky clean as Lineker appears to be, and those people will be less inclined to stand up to them.
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dex_sda posted:Fair point. I doubt most people are as squeaky clean as Lineker appears to be, and those people will be less inclined to stand up to them. Not liking their overall vendetta, but it's a fair cop by the Daily Mail - I know someone who used to work for Ingenious Media and the whole thing is every bit as artificial as it sounds.
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Prince John posted:Not liking their overall vendetta, but it's a fair cop by the Daily Mail - I know someone who used to work for Ingenious Media and the whole thing is every bit as artificial as it sounds. Yeah, tax evasion is not a good thing regardless of who does it. Lineker may have very correct opinions and the daily mail may only care because he disagrees with them, but he still shouldn't be defended for doing it when other public figures would clearly be criticised.
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HJB posted:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4205880/Gary-Lineker-saves-fortune-avoiding-tax-schemes.html How has he not already done them for libel?
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Steve2911 posted:How has he not already done them for libel? He might have, but the Mail has a huge legal department. Usually you don't hear from ongoing cases like those. Which is a pity because gently caress the Mail and all tabloids honestly.
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Steve2911 posted:How has he not already done them for libel? Which bit do you think is libellous? His defence in the Independence article was "I have always paid my taxes on time and in full" not "I've never invested in this tax avoidance scheme." The tone of the article when it gets on to its ranting about luvvies and sanctimonious behaviour is pretty bad, but it's opinion and I don't know whether that would be breaking the law.
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ALMOST 20 YEARS ALWAYS IN ARE HEARTS
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Ratjaculation posted:ALMOST 20 YEARS ALWAYS IN ARE HEARTS Oh boy, Daily Express journalists are going to be furiously typing headlines and tenuous articles bout ARE DIANA in anticipation. 200 years from now, they'll still be writing "220 YEARS SINCE WE LOST ARE PRINCESS OF HEARTS"
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Pochoclo posted:He might have, but the Mail has a huge legal department. Usually you don't hear from ongoing cases like those. Which is a pity because gently caress the Mail and all tabloids honestly. I think he is currently doing them for libel regarding the statements from a few months ago, but yeah, the Mail has a huge legal department.
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Ratjaculation posted:ALMOST 20 YEARS ALWAYS IN ARE HEARTS Rip 😥
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Pesky Splinter posted:Oh boy, Daily Express journalists are going to be furiously typing headlines and tenuous articles bout ARE DIANA in anticipation. The irony is that if she is still alive they'd probably loving hate her.
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Fangz posted:The irony is that if she is still alive they'd probably loving hate her. I hadn't actually thought about that before. Ha, yeah you're probably right. It'd be poo poo like "BULIMIC TOFF DIET-MAD ISIS-LOVER DIANA - TRAITOR!" Pesky Splinter fucked around with this message at 15:46 on Feb 11, 2017 |
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Pesky Splinter posted:200 years from now, they'll still be writing "220 YEARS SINCE WE LOST ARE PRINCESS OF HEARTS" NEW ARCHEOLOGICAL EVIDENCE LINKS DIANA DEATH TO MADELEINE MCCANN!
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Fangz posted:The irony is that if she is still alive they'd probably loving hate her. "Do Gooder Diana lectures ARE BOYES on not committing war crimes."
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happyhippy posted:NEW ARCHEOLOGICAL EVIDENCE LINKS DIANA DEATH TO MADELEINE MCCANN! DID DIANA DRIVER MURDERER MURDER MADDIE!? SHOCKING NECROMANTIC CLAIMS!
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Choosing to go along a path they know will destroy the nation because they're suddenly scared of what the public think is what's made them go mad. May believes none of the poo poo she has to spout daily. It's a farce.
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Ratjaculation posted:ALMOST 20 YEARS ALWAYS IN ARE HEARTS I have clear memories of walking down to the corner shop as it opened- it was run by an elderly couple and they were replacing yesterdays papers with the new. The little old lady pointed out the previous few days of tabloid headlines, which essentially read "diana is slutting it up with a BROWN! on a YACHT! DIVORCE! SCANDAL! EXCLUSIVE PICS! " and contrasted them with the "PRINCESS OF ARR HARRTS! DEAD! SO SAD!" that just came in. I got some very nice cherries and a babbys first lesson in how scummy the media can be that day, one of those memories that really stuck.
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Last night I came across an outraged Brexiter pushing a poll on Change.org lobbying Theresa May to ensure Gina Miller wasn't part of the process, I can't fathom why she would be 
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I was in Paris when she died. Went to the tunnel a few days afterwards to see the media throng and also paint marks + damage in the tunnel
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JFairfax posted:I was in Paris when she died. Nice disaster tourism
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Piers Morgan's death will bring me a lot of happiness
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Praseodymi posted:Goon project: Get Piers Morgan fired from ITV? I'll start the wiki
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