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lmao i love this game but holy poo poo I want to throw my controller out the window sometimes. just got completely swept by bots in 4v4 AI 
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mellowjournalism posted:lmao i love this game but holy poo poo I want to throw my controller out the window sometimes. just got completely swept by bots in 4v4 AI The bots seem to be inconsistent. I did a bunch of 4v4 elimination vs AI for an order and roughly 80% of the time they'd be fairly brain-dead and easy to guard-break spam, and the other 20% they'd turn into a whirling dervish and I'd just drop dead without landing a hit.
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Feb 11, 2017 23:26
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I don't think I have the coordination to play this game correctly. I can't beat even the level 2 bot without cheesing it off a cliff.
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Feb 11, 2017 23:31
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Kubrick posted:I don't think I have the coordination to play this game correctly. I can't beat even the level 2 bot without cheesing it off a cliff. The level 2 bots are no joke, starting out you WILL lose to them. Hell even the level 1 bots can be tricky sometimes just because they are agressive as heck. Just practice and you will improve, don't let yourself get tilted by mistakes while you are training because that is the entire point, to make mistakes and recognize them so you can learn from them.
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Feb 11, 2017 23:38
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mellowjournalism posted:lmao i love this game but holy poo poo I want to throw my controller out the window sometimes. just got completely swept by bots in 4v4 AI Cool thing is you get rewards even if you lose, so hey no biggie. And most of the mission orders things are for "complete" rather than "win" matches. So that's nice. It definitely has that fighting game feel of just screwing up your combo and then having somebody else just parry everything you do and clown on you. But also sometimes you clown on other people  I've been practicing parries and I'm definitely improving. Switched from Kensei back to Warden.
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Feb 11, 2017 23:39
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Kubrick posted:I don't think I have the coordination to play this game correctly. I can't beat even the level 2 bot without cheesing it off a cliff. There's a TON of subtle as gently caress poo poo in this game that you have to actually take the time to learn or you won't realize it even part of the game. There are good tutorials but you have to play them all and watch the videos and pay attention. If you don't know what parries are, what cancels are, which of your attacks are unblockable or which of your abilities combo into each other, you're gonna get beat. But learning and practicing those things will make you improve a ton. What class are you playing? Definitely avoid the assassins (Orochi, Peacekeeper, Berserker) until you know what you're doing.
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Feb 11, 2017 23:40
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Internet Kraken posted:Nothing unlocked in the beta carries over into the full game right? Probably not. Open beta was reset after the closed beta.
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Feb 11, 2017 23:45
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This game is actually pretty sweet. Atrociously bad menus but otherwise pretty good, makes me kinda sad I won't be able to afford it for a few months.
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Feb 11, 2017 23:50
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Is the PSN down for anybody else?
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Feb 11, 2017 23:54
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Why is Nobushi ranked 'hard' holy poo poo I just got 18 kills in a 4v4 when the next highest got 9. I'm new to this, and bad at videogames! I genuinely haven't had this much fun with an online game since... gently caress, I don't think I've had this much fun with an online game.
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Feb 12, 2017 00:07
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Guard breaks have been the absolute death of me until I watched a video where a guy said that mashing the break button made him counter-guard-break way more often, so I tried it and SURE ENOUGH I can get the football-tackling assholes off of me for two seconds now
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Feb 12, 2017 00:10
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Whalley posted:Why is Nobushi ranked 'hard' holy poo poo I just got 18 kills in a 4v4 when the next highest got 9. I'm new to this, and bad at videogames! I think she is rated "hard" because utilizing her hidden stance and related mixups can be very tricky. However 95% of Nobushi players including myself seem to have great success just never acknowledging hidden stance exists which makes the character decidedly less hard to play. So basically either her gimmick is hard but worthless or after release everyone is gonna finally use her gimmick and she's gonna be OP as hell.
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Feb 12, 2017 00:17
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Chomp8645 posted:I think she is rated "hard" because utilizing her hidden stance and related mixups can be very tricky. However 95% of Nobushi players including myself seem to have great success just never acknowledging hidden stance exists which makes the character decidedly less hard to play. Also, the back dodge is just about the only useful defense I've found against the viking loving tackle because I'm awful at guard breaks.
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Feb 12, 2017 00:25
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Just played first game. Got owned hard. loving hell this spear fucker ma
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Feb 12, 2017 00:36
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Is this game unstable for others? I just had one game freeze. Didn't even ctd and then just now a disconnect
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Feb 12, 2017 00:46
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MadJackMcJack posted:The bots seem to be inconsistent. I did a bunch of 4v4 elimination vs AI for an order and roughly 80% of the time they'd be fairly brain-dead and easy to guard-break spam, and the other 20% they'd turn into a whirling dervish and I'd just drop dead without landing a hit. Yeah but it's pretty bad AI scaling when not a single bot died once for the entire match. It's not like the 4 humans were rockstars so gently caress me if it couldn't just lower the difficulty on one goddamn bot after the 2nd round of skynet asspounding
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Feb 12, 2017 00:51
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My big trouble opponents are always Conquerers. Everything i do gets blocked, and coupled with their poo poo ability to deal damage to blocking defenders, i usually have to resort to cheesing a win IF they dont cave my skull in with that flail.
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Feb 12, 2017 00:54
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Hidden stance is amazing. it first frame is a dodge and all the attacks from the stance start on the 2nd chain in your combo. also being able to cancel recovery on attacks to hidden stance. it takes a bit to find the sweet spot but it's definitely worth learning.
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Feb 12, 2017 00:54
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"You can't join session because it's full" Really? All sessions? Oh okay Ubisoft maybe I'll never play this ever again you shitbox
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Feb 12, 2017 01:00
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So after 7 or so hours with the Beta, I have fallen off the wagon. I originally was going to get this but now I am on the fence. Pros - While not an expert in fighting games, I have previous fighting game experience in the form of MvC2 and Third Strike and some GGX. The fighting system seems reasonably deep to me and I have not seen or read anything that would suggest it would be degenerate. - The theme is awesome to say the least, Knights vs Samurai vs Vikings definitely got my attetion. - Game looks great and the PC port ran butter smooth on an aging i2500k w/970 setup. Cons - The time from starting the game to getting a match is brutally long and not engaging. It literally is the worst thing on earth for a fighting game. You want to get in the game, select your mode and character and then loving play the game. Instead you have to load 3 different menus, let the game find opposing players, select a hero, wait some loving more for other players to select heroes, load the map which can take up to 45 seconds (the more players there are, the higher chance for a loving 1 minute toaster to load), and then they have to do lovely camera angle pans all over the loving place. - Ditto for starting the next match. Wade through 3 menus again just to get the next game going. I estimate I spend 50% of time in menus and 50% actual play.
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Feb 12, 2017 01:08
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The best part of playing nobushi is bleeding your opponents enough to kill them and running away giggling like the Anime school girl you are.
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Feb 12, 2017 01:18
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Whoever said the menu is garbage was spot on gently caress this is some call of titan bullshit
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Feb 12, 2017 01:18
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are these loading times just on the pc? because even with my poo poo internet provider, on xbone the wait time between matches is just a minute or two
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Feb 12, 2017 01:20
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super macho dude posted:are these loading times just on the pc? because even with my poo poo internet provider, on xbone the wait time between matches is just a minute or two 1 v 1 best of 5 duel times are like 3 minutes long for me on average. From the time a player dies the bare minimum to start the next best of 5 even if its the same player is at least 1 min 30 given that they have to tally XP, gear, etc etc. The menu and waiting time to play time ratio is disgustingly bad.
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Feb 12, 2017 01:27
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MikeC posted:1 v 1 best of 5 duel times are like 3 minutes long for me on average. From the time a player dies the bare minimum to start the next best of 5 even if its the same player is at least 1 min 30 given that they have to tally XP, gear, etc etc. The menu and waiting time to play time ratio is disgustingly bad. Yeah, needing to spam the Next button after a match because the default is 5ish seconds between telling you each little thing you earned after a match is dumb. And I got to agree the menu design is a labyrinth of extra menu's
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Feb 12, 2017 01:38
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Holy poo poo level 3 Peacekeeper bots are loving nightmares. Went best of 99, got 12 kills to their 50, and about 3/4 of those were environmental so they really don't count. Bleed damage reeeeaaally sucks.
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Feb 12, 2017 01:40
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Are there gonna be any penalties at all for leavers in this game? Just played my second match in a row where the entire enemy team was bots before the first round was over. In the beta there's nothing at least, just leave the instant you see that a player has a skewed nosehair or whatever and LULULUL NEXT MATCH INSTANTLY. This game has some cool ideas and neat combat, but the underlying frameworks so far reeks of cut corners  At least i got it for "free" with my GPU.
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Feb 12, 2017 01:46
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Songbearer posted:Holy poo poo level 3 Peacekeeper bots are loving nightmares. Went best of 99, got 12 kills to their 50, and about 3/4 of those were environmental so they really don't count. Bleed damage reeeeaaally sucks. I'll be honest, I really hate the bleed mechanic. I'm fine with it in theory but it really sucks to get lightly poked at low health and then have some Noubishi rear end in a top hat just scurry away so you bleed to death. It'd be a lot less frustrating if they had to actually hit you and bleed damage wasn't lethal. Dongattack posted:Are there gonna be any penalties at all for leavers in this game? Just played my second match in a row where the entire enemy team was bots before the first round was over. In the beta there's nothing at least, just leave the instant you see that a player has a skewed nosehair or whatever and LULULUL NEXT MATCH INSTANTLY. I'm assuming the full game will have penalties for abandonment because it'd be insanely stupid for it not too.
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Feb 12, 2017 01:49
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super macho dude posted:are these loading times just on the pc? because even with my poo poo internet provider, on xbone the wait time between matches is just a minute or two Dominion wait times are ridiculuoua
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Feb 12, 2017 01:52
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Having an edgy last man standing staredown after an intense 4v4 and both of us doing an emote was sweet. Then I loving instakilled him with a thrown axe and it was even sweeter. The Wow! spam was glorious and enjoyed by all.
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Feb 12, 2017 01:56
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Internet Kraken posted:I'm assuming the full game will have penalties for abandonment because it'd be insanely stupid for it not too. Hope you're right, it IS Ubisoft 
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Feb 12, 2017 01:59
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Ra Ra Rasputin posted:Yeah, needing to spam the Next button after a match because the default is 5ish seconds between telling you each little thing you earned after a match is dumb. My favourite dumb menu thing is how it keeps backing into a new menu even after you've backed all the way out to the top level menu. An infinite combo of menus.
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Feb 12, 2017 02:04
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When I started I thought it was a really polished looking game with potential You know what I think I hate this game actually
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Feb 12, 2017 02:09
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Internet Kraken posted:I'll be honest, I really hate the bleed mechanic. I'm fine with it in theory but it really sucks to get lightly poked at low health and then have some Noubishi rear end in a top hat just scurry away so you bleed to death. It'd be a lot less frustrating if they had to actually hit you and bleed damage wasn't lethal. Don't get hit.
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Feb 12, 2017 02:14
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new ladder tech. https://youtu.be/QXA9_3psmPI
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Feb 12, 2017 02:16
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Dongattack posted:Are there gonna be any penalties at all for leavers in this game? Just played my second match in a row where the entire enemy team was bots before the first round was over. In the beta there's nothing at least, just leave the instant you see that a player has a skewed nosehair or whatever and LULULUL NEXT MATCH INSTANTLY. I speak from frustrated experience that during that five-second 'victory music' delay before the match finalizes, people can leave and be replaced by bots. Really hope a punitive measure is implemented for this. Edit: I only care about this nonsense because there's an xp bonus if you play against someone of a dramatically higher rank than you, which is lost if the player drops like a bitch before the match is over. Buck Wildman fucked around with this message at 02:22 on Feb 12, 2017 |
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I can't say I've played enough of the game to make a good guesses on these, but there are several things making me worried about this game. 1. P2P connections, matchmaking and everything involved (how long till' cheats that purposely do something weird with the connection?) I wasn't even that concerned about P2P and I thought people were overreacting to it previously. 2. How good will the balancing be and how often are we going to see annoying FOTMs? 3. Dumb unskippable cutscenes reducing actual gameplay time. (This gets really, really annoying when dueling with a bot in a custom game, at least). 4. Price point seems awfully high for the breadth of content. All those things being said, I'm no fighting (2d) game expert. I've got limited experience from Mount & Blade and I had a huge hard-on on for Jedi Knight/2/3 dueling scene and I considered myself to be relatively good. The melee mechanics are interesting. I can't say I really appreciate the combos, and I wish there was a more natural way of learning them instead of looking at your move list each time you select a character and then trying to string them into your gameplay. The gameplay feels a little claustrophobic due to the core game design. But really, all in all in terms of core mechanics the game feels like the sword-fighting game with enough depth I've been missing for over 10 years now. It's everything around those core mechanics that makes me feel reserved. About KB/M vs. Controllers, would love some opinions on this: I thought the game was supposed to be downright better on controllers but I'm rethinking my stance on that. I'm not used to holding the controller (Dualshock 4 on PC) with a claw grip and moving over to guard break from the right stick can be too slow. Having KB/M and customizable controls might prove to be a benefit. Thinking of binding guard break to a side mouse button. Is the right stick button actually used for anything in the game? I reckon one could use xbox360ce to bind the stick button over to left face plate button, not forcing you to let go of the stick for guard breaks. Are there more benefits for using a kb/m than easy access to guard break? Dessel fucked around with this message at 02:23 on Feb 12, 2017 |
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Feb 12, 2017 02:20
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Here's what they had to say about leavers in their Q&A sticky on their official forums:quote:There is no penalty for quitting a game, while it can affect all other players because of session owner migration. Do you plan to change that? So basically "we're dumb and want to be the thousandth game to fail at stopping leavers without locking people out but eventually we'll cave" seems to be the answer.
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Feb 12, 2017 02:20
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Edit: nm, they count the drop as a loss on their record, problem solved.
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breaks posted:Here's what they had to say about leavers in their Q&A sticky on their official forums: Oh I'm sure losing their completely meaningless exp and funbux matters a lot to the people that grind nothing but the 1v1/2v2 mode. loving hell.
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