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People were excited because it was a 10 second glimpse of when the Simpsons had good comedic timing and had subversive humor
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Uncle at Nintendo posted:And the best thing is it's not even an original song, it's a cover what the gently caress
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# ? Feb 11, 2017 19:59 |
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Uncle at Nintendo posted:And the best thing is it's not even an original song, it's a cover you just blew my mind
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# ? Feb 11, 2017 22:26 |
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Junk posted:I can't find anything about this, do you have a link or know why he didn't enjoy it? gently caress, now I can't find it either. Wherever it was, it didn't provide a reason, just some fan claiming he didn't like the experience and that was why Herb only ever returned as a one-line "I'm poor again" thing. It seemed to make sense at the time. Although in looking for it I found out that, thanks to an Arnold Schwarzenegger-based joke in the Simpsons Movie, Danny DeVito does simultaneously exist as a person in the Simpsons universe. God drat it
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# ? Feb 11, 2017 22:32 |
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S13E04. BURNS: "Remember, there's no muscle stronger than the human heart." HOMER: "What about the weiner? I saw a guy on tv lift a can of paint with his."
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# ? Feb 12, 2017 02:57 |
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shame on an IGA posted:S13E04. That made me chuckle but I'm betting it was the only good thing in the following episode: quote:Homer becomes a fortune cookie writer for a Chinatown restaurant. Mr. Burns reads one of Homer's fortunes, which says that the reader will find love before Flag Day is over. Burns goes searching for love and meets Gloria, a meter maid, and asks her out. Gloria reluctantly agrees, and Burns recruits Homer to help him look young and hip to his new girlfriend.
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# ? Feb 12, 2017 03:21 |
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Here you go, a direct compare-and-contrast of the same type of joke made on the same type of episode of the Simpsons, then vs. now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJMlyIDCAow https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzt0xBXTNhI I really think this about sums everything up. Drink-Mix Man fucked around with this message at 03:29 on Feb 12, 2017 |
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Drink-Mix Man posted:Here you go, a direct compare-and-contrast of the same type of joke made on the same type of episode of the Simpsons, then vs. now: Man, they'd never be able to get away with all those anti-Chinese jokes now.
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# ? Feb 12, 2017 04:14 |
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Bart the Mother had some good lines but that was the episode I remember thinking huh this really isnt that funny anymore. A lot of the cruddier episodes from 10, 11 and 12 were like that. Marge vs the Monorail was one of the highest points though, because my wife who can't stand the Simpsons even laughed at the "The kids can call you Hoju!" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsoc1K30Zb0
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# ? Feb 12, 2017 04:33 |
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OctoberBlues posted:That made me chuckle but I'm betting it was the only good thing in the following episode: No it was the worst part I watched that episode's first run and that was the moment I knew the show was as dead as God and my childhood innocence
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# ? Feb 12, 2017 05:52 |
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shame on an IGA posted:No it was the worst part I watched that episode's first run and that was the moment I knew the show was as dead as God and my childhood innocence Hmmm, it seems like a classic Homer thing to say, although I'm sure the phrasing would have had to be different in earlier seasons. Who's to say I suppose
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# ? Feb 12, 2017 05:56 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhe3vSe-mmw Khorne posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eb7peg0gq-o ehh. its not the worst thing i have seen but its way to long and not that funny.
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# ? Feb 12, 2017 06:21 |
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This just feels like something that belongs in Ren & Stimpy or Rugrats or Hey Arnold or some other Nicktoons show.
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# ? Feb 12, 2017 07:16 |
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Geez, actually watching some of these clips like the China trip and Box Fort are making me seriously hate this show. I have to actively cordon off my memories of the earlier seasons to keep them pristine.
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# ? Feb 12, 2017 07:35 |
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The thing these clips are really highlighting is brevity being lost. The monk guards joke would have been perfectly funny as a throwback (and not a drawn out knock off) if he did the same poo poo then the monk delivers a single spin kick from the same camera pov. Instead of a whole fight scene. Plus removing Marge explaining the joke we're about to see, wtf. Basically same poo poo with the box fort, cut it in half. Kids talk to Flanders, bart says "hmmmm", next shot they're both on top of the castle and the delivery army appears. poo poo is drawn out and over explained.
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# ? Feb 12, 2017 08:45 |
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PallasAthene posted:This just feels like something that belongs in Ren & Stimpy or Rugrats or Hey Arnold or some other Nicktoons show. I uh think you might be forgetting the type of tone Ren & Stimpy was rolling with https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCa7tKiCMN4
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# ? Feb 12, 2017 09:40 |
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Drink-Mix Man posted:Here you go, a direct compare-and-contrast of the same type of joke made on the same type of episode of the Simpsons, then vs. now: When you can have a "joke" fill in literally 4 or 5 times as much run time you don't have to think as hard.
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# ? Feb 12, 2017 11:40 |
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Scudworth posted:The thing these clips are really highlighting is brevity being lost. The monk guards joke would have been perfectly funny as a throwback (and not a drawn out knock off) if he did the same poo poo then the monk delivers a single spin kick from the same camera pov. Instead of a whole fight scene. Plus removing Marge explaining the joke we're about to see, wtf. Gotta fill that time somehow. In recent seasons, some of the episodes have been so short that they've had to add little skits and other poo poo totally unrelated to the plot at the end of the show. Which comes off exactly as stupid and out-of-place as you'd think.
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# ? Feb 12, 2017 11:41 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHdJZu49aTc
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# ? Feb 12, 2017 11:59 |
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That was a one-off and funny because it wasn't funny sort of thing. Now it's just sad.
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# ? Feb 12, 2017 12:20 |
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maybe they should show a Conway Twitty video to spend 5 minutes
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# ? Feb 12, 2017 12:23 |
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the way he says "okely dokely doo" at the end just kills me
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# ? Feb 12, 2017 12:26 |
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Ein cooler Typ posted:maybe they should show a Conway Twitty video to spend 5 minutes I prefer the Family Guy Conway Twitty thing to some of the Simpsons clips in this thread, to be honest.
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# ? Feb 12, 2017 12:29 |
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I'm going to go out on a limb here and say the last two seasons of futurama were so very bad that they ruined earlier funnier seasons. Horrible pacing. Horrible jokes. Total garbage Here's something very funny and worth watching; a round table with Conan and a few other writers shooting the poo poo about their processes from the glory days of the Simpsons. I find it really interesting that you can look at them and see the resemblance of characters in the show: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DtJ28qOEG1g
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# ? Feb 12, 2017 14:19 |
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So, given the sort of bubble of constantly maintaining some level of an unchanging universe, what would be different if the show started in different years? If the show were starting starting 15 years ago, maybe in a world where South Park and Family Guy just never existed due to there being no Simpsons emerging nearly a decade sooner, would Burns would be running "BurnsMart" supercorp. instead of a nuclear power plant? Homer would be a greeter as a job where he's easily ignored, treated like a number, unrecognized by his own boss who he greets on a daily basis? Also, with the eventual death of local broadcaster cartoons and stuff like Bozo within just a few years, would even Krusty exist on the show past a certain point in a world where the audience were growing up without stuff like classic H-B, WB and etc. cartoon shorts in constant rotation as a point of reference? Flanders being sort of a less likeable and compassionate character and more a prosperity doctrine preaching one?
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# ? Feb 12, 2017 16:02 |
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I've literally never watched a single episode of the Simpsons.
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# ? Feb 12, 2017 16:22 |
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Scudworth posted:Basically same poo poo with the box fort, cut it in half. Kids talk to Flanders, bart says "hmmmm", next shot they're both on top of the castle and the delivery army appears. There's some good jokes in the setup to them building a fort, like the bait and switch where Bart gives the name of the company which is pretty "classic Simpsons." But then yeah, the battle scene goes on forever, isn't funny,and is way too over the top and cartoonish. You can just picture what the writer's room was like for these episodes. Formerly they would pitch joke ideas, and only note them if they made them laugh in that moment, and then later still only use them if they still seemed funny after numerous read throughs. In contrast I highly doubt anyone laughed at the entire battle scene concept and it was as dull as any business meeting anywhere. "We need to pad the episode, come up with lots of shipping-related visual puns for the "battle."
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# ? Feb 12, 2017 19:07 |
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Is it possible that The Simpsons has never been funny and the "golden years" were only good because we were kids when we watched them?
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# ? Feb 12, 2017 20:03 |
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Pawn 17 posted:Is it possible that The Simpsons has never been funny and the "golden years" were only good because we were kids when we watched them?
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JediTalentAgent posted:So, given the sort of bubble of constantly maintaining some level of an unchanging universe, what would be different if the show started in different years? I think it was written to be generic enough that major character traits and backgrounds wouldn't need to change to make sense as a new show today. It just feels like they would because the show and characters themselves are so stale.
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# ? Feb 12, 2017 20:10 |
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Last year I was taking a bus regularly and watched two episodes per day to pass the time. From season 2 right up until Season 10 it was great, then the quality dropped off a cliff like a fat guy doing an ill-conceived skateboard stunt. Also the idea that it's just nostalgia is seriously dumb. Sure, the show and all the staff just magically remained the same for 20 whole years. Haha
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# ? Feb 12, 2017 21:22 |
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For a long time I didn't even know they still made new episodes and I was kinda taken aback when I saw one. It was like watching a really bad parody. Can't remember which one it was, but it honestly sounded like they were playing their roles sarcastically without even the merest pretence at real effort. Embarrassingly bad. Worse than Superman 3 bad
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# ? Feb 12, 2017 21:29 |
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Pawn 17 posted:Is it possible that The Simpsons has never been funny and the "golden years" were only good because we were kids when we watched them? This keeps getting brought up like a new idea every few pages and the answer is no, based on people watching it at the time knowing something changed, and showing old seasons to adults who had never seen them in childhood. It's not the same show.
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Scudworth posted:This keeps getting brought up like a new idea every few pages and the answer is no, based on people watching it at the time knowing something changed, and showing old seasons to adults who had never seen them in childhood. It's not the same show. Off the top of my head, I think about that joke where Homer borrowed The Lottery from the library for help winning the actual lottery to pay for Santa's Little Helper's surgery. If you're a little kid, it's funny how Kent Brockman explains it's not actually about the lottery, and Homer hucks it in the fireplace that has several other books, as a good sight gag. Watch it again as a high school student, and you've read The Lottery, and it's a whole new joke. Watch it after being a little more well-read, and you'll notice the other books in the fireplace, representing Homer's failure to fix his problems with books titled what he he was trying to accomplish, but that don't actually have useful tips (Fatherhood and Canine Surgery); and also Farenheit 451 It's so dense, every single image has so much going on.
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# ? Feb 13, 2017 04:02 |
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Drink-Mix Man posted:Here you go, a direct compare-and-contrast of the same type of joke made on the same type of episode of the Simpsons, then vs. now:
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# ? Feb 13, 2017 04:14 |
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I'm loving upset now.
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# ? Feb 13, 2017 04:15 |
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I am praying for you in these trying times
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# ? Feb 13, 2017 04:17 |
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I just don't get how they can't find like a single funny writer. Is this a WWE situation where they keep the writing staff purposely lovely and insular because they know they can just coast on the core fans?
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it's like someone else said earlier, it's people who grew up on the simpsons writing it now. it's like when you compare the original star wars flicks to the expanded universe novels and poo poo. on the surface level it looks the same but the people writing the new stuff didn't really get what made the original property so great. also laziness.
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