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big nipples big life
May 12, 2014

Can it break the early access survival crafting game curse?

I doubt it.

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Hav
Dec 11, 2009

Fun Shoe

D_Smart posted:

I scrapped that project on advice from the more sensible people, and rational voices in my head.

They aren't THAT rational.

D_Smart posted:

I swear Frontier is just trolling CIG now.

I am no longer disembodied space boobs.

I think it says something about the pace of development at SC, to be truly honest.

Hav
Dec 11, 2009

Fun Shoe

TheAgent posted:

aliens - elite does it first

I think they're going to subvert this as well, because I'm seeing more than one 'alien' race being involved. But then they're managing anticipation by allowing their storyline to unfold rather than using it to boost jpeg sales.

peter gabriel
Nov 8, 2011

Hello Commandos

Lack of Gravitas posted:

45 minute developer let's play for a different space game. I'm not sure they understand how game development works.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBF9t1REwsA

Amateurs, didn't even ask Dennis how a computer works

Beet Wagon
Oct 19, 2015





TheAgent posted:

wait wait how the gently caress is there a guy up there gently caress you how did you, poo poo I'm dead, stop STOP RUNNING ACROSS WALLS gently caress

-the titanfall 2 experience

And once for every four hours of playtime you accidentally grappling hook into another commando and kick them do death and go "THAT WAS AWESOME HOW DID I DO THAT" lmao

TheAgent
Feb 16, 2002

The call is coming from inside Dr. House
Grimey Drawer

Hav posted:

I think they're going to subvert this as well, because I'm seeing more than one 'alien' race being involved. But then they're managing anticipation by allowing their storyline to unfold rather than using it to boost jpeg sales.
maybe fdev doesn't understand game development??

Samizdata
May 14, 2007

Tippis posted:

“Out today, on Xbox One and PS4, also, it's an RTS in the vein of Brütal Legend.”

It had it's issues, but I LIKED the game.

Tijuana Bibliophile
Dec 30, 2008

Scratchmo


:smugdog:

TheAgent
Feb 16, 2002

The call is coming from inside Dr. House
Grimey Drawer
Elite: Dangerous
  • superbly modeled flight
  • great sound design
  • amazing in VR
  • runs like a dream
  • console plebs can play
  • character creator
  • drop in/drop out multiplayer and multicrew
  • game actually released

Star Citizen
  • we're trying really hard guys, ugguuu~

D_Smart
May 11, 2010

by FactsAreUseless
College Slice

Hav posted:

They aren't THAT rational.

Right; there's that :grin:

Tijuana Bibliophile
Dec 30, 2008

Scratchmo
Welcome to a no bullshit rundown of the job of the explorer. “The professional wanderer”

Why do humans risk our lives by pushing the edge? It seems to be a natural instinct for our species; we are always willing to launch ourselves into the unknown. Primitive humans explored on foot, and then on horses. We made ships to cross oceans, and submarines to search below them. Planes allowed us to search the skies and eventually rockets let us leave our planet altogether. Above all other jobs, exploration will be the most popular within Star Citizen. I want to first I will address a question I get all the time.

“What happens after we discover everything”? With the commercial launch there will obviously be a finite numbers of systems and millions of excited explorers in thousands or orgs. I believe, that with numbers like that, we could have the majority of it discovered, scanned, probed, mapped, and catalogued before anyone needs to buy insurance. There have been several instances on 10 for the chairman that we have been assured that this possible issue has a simple solution. Discoveries will need to be periodically verified. If everything only required to be scanned once, this game mechanic would be doomed. Jump points initially need to be discovered surveyed and plotted but they are planned to be dynamic. Because the universe changes, there will be a constant need for exploration. You could technically spend your days doing nothing but keeping tabs on the jump points and selling the updated data. We were told that a player would actually need to fly the unknown or stale jump points in order to chart them. When you commit to charting a jump, there is risk of being thrown out, damaged or even killed if you are unable to fly it.. We will have to see about how the drone mechanics will be done, but I personally hope it takes skill to plot a course through. Once the new path is assessed as optimal, the data can be sold so others can perform the jump safely with their navigation computer. Jump points are being classed into three sizes. Some ships will be forced to take a larger point which could result in a longer path. Smaller ships will get more jump options so they can optimize their path shorter or safer. Jump points are just one aspect of exploration.

Explorers are also looking to find New planets, New destinations and eventually, new species. Information is vital for the industrial types. Miners, Farmers and Colonists will rely on explorers to find the right place to set up shop. This data could be sold to the government or whoever is willing to pay. The dynamic universe will be also be bolstered with Large Scale events and future content drops. Large scale events will mix up the universe with a collective mission for the players to work on. DLC drops have the potential to expand the universe well into the future to keep the game play fresh. The motivating factors for exploration are broad. There are two types of discovery; discovery for information and discovery for fun.

Discovery for information is broken down into, Scientific Discovery, Corporate Intelligence and Military Intelligence. These can each be further broken down to either Personal Gain or Financial Gain. So in essence, there are a lot of reasons why you might take up a career within exploration. Some humans genuinely just want to discover. Being remembered or making your mark in the universe is a real motivation for some people. Even at personal expense, risk of bankruptcy and risk of death.

On day one, when the server goes from Beta to live release, parts of the universe will be known, but only to a point. There will be documented paths, races, and planets. The system and planet information are logged in the “ARC Map”. That does not mean that we know everything about them, It's up to the explorer to confirm or disprove these rumors. Exploitation for military intelligence serves to discover key leverage over a group or enemy. It's also been called spying or reconnaissance. An example of this would be that you “Discover” where a pirate org has called home. It’s now up to you to get some information on capability, activity size and strength. It wouldn't hurt to get some type of positive ID so you can do some background research. heir bounty may have high value and you might have the required team to claim it. This is “Organizational Intelligence” If you were outnumbered or otherwise unwilling to deal with it personally, you could sell the information, which is safer and the end of your task. That is “Intelligence for financial gain”. If you are good at it, people will line up from all over for your services.

Exploration for “Corporate Intelligence” is basically surveying. The act of mapping and scanning the unknown for resources, jump points or other interesting facts. The goal of corporate exploration is obviously to flip a profit. You aim to sell your information. The information has to be worth more than the expenditure or you are wasting time. It's exciting but is risky and there is no guarantee that the payoff will cover the operating costs.

Technically any ship can be used for exploration; some are better suited than others. Currently there are 10 ships that list exploration as their primary role. I will give you a very brief description of them and I plan to do a deep dive later on once we get some updated game mechanics. Aurora ES / LX and Mustang Beta are Tier One Starters
  • The ES and LX have the most rudimentary systems in this series. The LX has a leather seat but they both have a jump capable drive. They are an ok value only because they are so inexpensive. Personally, I would suggest that you start a bit higher up the price range.
  • The mustang Beta is head and shoulders over both aurora explorers. It has one of the best canopy views of any ship, an efficient jump drive and large fuel reserve. The most unique feature is its living quarters. We still need to see what is actually decided about sleeping, eating and hygiene mechanics. If you have this ship, you will always be ready to go. It's a fully equipped Winnebago.
  • The luxurious Origin 315P. The 300 series is getting a rework and I am hoping that when we see it again, it will make a bit more sense than it does now. It is a great ship but the rear has no specialized living equipment that sets it apart from the other 300 ship. It does come with a stronger power plant, upgraded scanners, tractor beam and long range communications.
  • The Reliant Sen, The reliant flying wing failed to impress me since launch. I am confident that it will eventually fly well and with that, this is shaping up to be the best cheap explorer. The rear section is like the Mustang Beta but with room for two and a more complete sensor console. I think this little ship will be great for gameplay with a friend.
  • Freelancer DUR. Now we are starting to get into a much larger footprint. The DUR variant will carry less cargo than standard but picks up sensors and longer range. This ship is going through a rework and I am really interested to see the interior layout. I personally hope its a bit more like a camper inside in keeping with its role. This is a big ship that a couple of friends can use to see the universe.
  • The Terrapin is a tough science ship with advanced plating and some very specialized sensors. It is very small and from the concept art, seems to be lacking in creature comforts. I see this more geared for reconnaissance than scientific exploration.
  • The Aquila is the Constellation variant that is tricked out to explore. From the outside you will know it because it trades its square glass and bars cockpit for a round observation canopy. The top turret has been replaced by the advanced sensor suite; it comes with a rover and a Merlin. It's a bit like the best of both worlds because you could run cargo just by ditching the rover. This multi crew ship is well suited for a group of friends in a small org.
  • The Carrack is a military ship whose sole purpose is exploration. Its computer core is tailored to charting jump points from the drones and scout. It includes a rover and three modules that will be interchangeable. It's well defended and well armed. It has a unique armored shield that can cover the bridge from attack or radiation. It will have a basic medical bay and workshop for when you are out on your own. Reinforced oversized fuel tanks and an array of arms to aid navigating larger jump points. I know that it is designed to be independent, but I see this being better as part of a small fleet.
  • The Endeavor with the telescope module. This science ship has one of the longest range sensor packaged and although I would never send this ship into the black without support, I know it will be an exploration power house.
  • Any dedicated explorer should team up with a Star Farrer, herald and some sort of scout escort. This will let the team push deeper into space without needing to backtrack to ship data. The herald is uniquely capable at sending or carrying data to market.
In conclusion, being the explorer, you get to put it all on the line to see the unknown for yourself. Pushing the edge of the known universe you will need to manage your consumables, know where to look and know when to turn back.

Thanks so very much for spending your time with me today.

Fly safe and I will see you in the verse.

Here is the link to the Video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ERj_2AeHBo

Brazilianpeanutwar
Aug 27, 2015

Spent my walletfull, on a jpeg, desolate, will croberts make a whale of me yet?

trucutru posted:

Sorry but that guy is way too competent a liar to be hired at CIG.

That guy makes me think of a cross between Perez Hilton and the main nerd from silicon valley.

big nipples big life
May 12, 2014


This is so incredibly sad that there needs to be a new word created just to describe how sad it is.

Tijuana Bibliophile
Dec 30, 2008

Scratchmo
Currently there are 10 ships that list exploration as their primary role :sterv:

Star Citizen is like a Mandelbrot set of stupid, whatever aspect of it you zoom in to examine is exactly as stupid as the whole thing.

peter gabriel
Nov 8, 2011

Hello Commandos
Exploring in Star Citizen is one of my favourite things to do, between the jacket section in the shop to the landing pads of Port Press Screens and then back to the shop it's quite the expedition

Tijuana Bibliophile
Dec 30, 2008

Scratchmo

Ol Cactus Dick posted:

This is so incredibly sad that there needs to be a new word created just to describe how sad it is.

I'm not sure I could handle the story behind his reddit account name :smith:

Seriously though, it's impossibly sad that that's the thing in his life he wants to proudly share with the internet

Tijuana Bibliophile
Dec 30, 2008

Scratchmo
Hey guys guess who scored a night with a prostitute (sex included!) like almost for free? Just thought I'd share my method;

SpaceCurtisLeMay
Sep 30, 2016

We're at war with Goons. We were attacked by Goons. Do you want to kill Goons, or would you rather have Citizens killed?

D_Smart posted:

Falcon 4.0 By Spectrum Holobyte

And it is still around with the community modded BMS package. Graphics have been updated, 64-bit version implemented, and voice comms integrated. Also includes about a dozen fly able aircraft beyond F-16's. Oh and a working dynamic camping with multiple theaters from Korea to the Middle East, Balkans, and 1980's Europe NATO v. USSR.

AP
Jul 12, 2004

One Ring to fool them all
One Ring to find them
One Ring to milk them all
and pockets fully line them
Grimey Drawer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8wPFnLN_kc

Mirificus
Oct 29, 2004

Kings need not raise their voices to be heard

Tijuana Bibliophile
Dec 30, 2008

Scratchmo


Reddit really delivers tonight :allears:

The Titanic
Sep 15, 2016

Unsinkable

When I go to war, and I go war often, when I do deeds for certain unmentionable people. This is my primary weapon of war. I never leave without a bandolier filled with Mike & Ike because I need silent kills. The best silent killer is eventually diabetes or a shorter lifespan.

Yes I'm in it for the long haul. But not everybody is a secret operative like me and that other guy who does things too. Very legitimate and totally believable. :clint:

Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry

peter gabriel posted:

Exploring in Star Citizen is one of my favourite things to do, between the jacket section in the shop to the landing pads of Port Press Screens and then back to the shop it's quite the expedition

New black holes and uncharted wormholes are found everyday.



NO, those AREN'T bugs or glitches, STEVE, SHUT UP AND PLAY THE drat GAME!

Mirificus
Oct 29, 2004

Kings need not raise their voices to be heard

D_Smart
May 11, 2010

by FactsAreUseless
College Slice

SpaceCurtisLeMay posted:

And it is still around with the community modded BMS package. Graphics have been updated, 64-bit version implemented, and voice comms integrated. Also includes about a dozen fly able aircraft beyond F-16's. Oh and a working dynamic camping with multiple theaters from Korea to the Middle East, Balkans, and 1980's Europe NATO v. USSR.

Yup. I have all of that :)

TrustmeImLegit
Jan 14, 2017

by FactsAreUseless

I hope Derek is referring to my post not eightaces. As they're basically identical.

Trust me Im legit

TrustmeImLegit fucked around with this message at 19:21 on Feb 13, 2017

Wrecked Angle
May 12, 2012

"JURASSIC PARK!"

Tijuana Bibliophile posted:

Hey guys guess who scored a night with a prostitute (sex included!) like almost for free? Just thought I'd share my method;

yes.

Sarsapariller
Aug 14, 2015

Occasional vampire queen


Lack of Gravitas posted:

45 minute developer let's play for a different space game. I'm not sure they understand how game development works.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBF9t1REwsA

Wow, 9 months since the announcement trailer and they have mechanics! Functioning gravity, electricity, and life support systems! In-game monitors that are interactive and give actual information! They played live for 45 minutes and not once did the character model spaz the gently caress out and clip through the ceiling! The visuals are passable-to-good! How many billions of dollars must have been dumped into this boondoggle?

TrustmeImLegit
Jan 14, 2017

by FactsAreUseless

Sarsapariller posted:

Wow, 9 months since the announcement trailer and they have mechanics! Functioning gravity, electricity, and life support systems! In-game monitors that are interactive and give actual information! They played live for 45 minutes and not once did the character model spaz the gently caress out and clip through the ceiling! The visuals are passable-to-good! How many billions of dollars must have been dumped into this boondoggle?

Wow I was told it takes on average of 7 years for a game to come out if you cherrypick the 10 games that took the longest to make of all time and average them like that stupid loving chart

big nipples big life
May 12, 2014

TrustmeImLegit posted:

I hope Derek is referring to my post not eightaces. As they're basically identical.

Trust me Im legit

Name your next account Nostradumbass and just post vague predictions

Beet Wagon
Oct 19, 2015






Beer you need to go tell this guy to buy Star Citizen right now.

TrustmeImLegit
Jan 14, 2017

by FactsAreUseless

Beet Wagon posted:

Beer you need to go tell this guy to buy Star Citizen right now.

I don't think he knows that Derek enthusiastically bought into SC for a few hundred bucks and was forcibly refunded because he wrote hurtful things about it on his blog. He never sought a refund and in fact has backed again several times.

Derek is still a SC backer in spirit.

his nibs
Feb 27, 2016

:kayak:Welcome to the:kayak:
Dream Factory
:kayak:
Grimey Drawer

Ol Cactus Dick posted:

Name your next account Nostradumbass and just post vague predictions

I can get on board with this

Samizdata
May 14, 2007

The Titanic posted:

When I go to war, and I go war often, when I do deeds for certain unmentionable people. This is my primary weapon of war. I never leave without a bandolier filled with Mike & Ike because I need silent kills. The best silent killer is eventually diabetes or a shorter lifespan.

Yes I'm in it for the long haul. But not everybody is a secret operative like me and that other guy who does things too. Very legitimate and totally believable. :clint:

You know, the real low drag operators skip the weekend warrior stuff. We rock the elite stuff.



That will put them down nice and quiet. People really underestimate the tactical opportunities presented by licorice.

And, if we want them to go down hard and screaming, we bring the pain.



That's right. Salted licorice. I mean, I know it is banned under the Geneva Convention, but, this conversation is between friends, right? If not, I have a baggy in my pocket...

aleksendr
May 14, 2014

Samizdata posted:

And, if we want them to go down hard and screaming, we bring the pain.



That's right. Salted licorice. I mean, I know it is banned under the Geneva Convention, but, this conversation is between friends, right? If not, I have a baggy in my pocket...

I'm a big fan of Licorice and salt water taffy so i had to buy salted licorice once just to try it.

Never. Again.

The stuff is simply vile to the taste buds.

Mirificus
Oct 29, 2004

Kings need not raise their voices to be heard


"what's the point in Derek posting if he can't stroke his ego/nipples in public?"

big nipples big life
May 12, 2014

Those r/ds dudes sure like to talk about boners.

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

Mirificus
Oct 29, 2004

Kings need not raise their voices to be heard
"Someone needs to remind them that this is all going on in their forum, under their brand, and it's not good for their image to be associated with that level of toxicity. "

Mirificus fucked around with this message at 20:08 on Feb 13, 2017

Samizdata
May 14, 2007

aleksendr posted:

I'm a big fan of Licorice and salt water taffy so i had to buy salted licorice once just to try it.

Never. Again.

The stuff is simply vile to the taste buds.

So, you didn't read the bit about the Geneva Convention then? (Also, it's not salt, it is generally ammonium chloride.)

(Also, I am American. I just read a lot about weird foods.)

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Hav
Dec 11, 2009

Fun Shoe

his nibs posted:

I can get on board with this

Beware of dogs on Thursday. Pluto is in the fifth house and could be windy.

Your lucky number is plempf.

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