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Business Gorillas: Mar 11, 2009

mugrim posted:

There's both rumors this election, as well as outright claims in Game Change, that Clinton promoted and paid people more often if they could come up with a math based justification for not having to visit anywhere too far outside major metro areas and that it was the biggest point of contention for planning her movements.

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# ? Feb 13, 2017 21:34

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# ? May 12, 2024 21:11

Al!: Apr 2, 2010

Nonsense posted:

The grass is always greener

if theres grass on the buttigieg, play ball

# ? Feb 13, 2017 21:35

mugrim: Mar 2, 2007; The same eye cannot both look up to heaven and down to earth.

Business Gorillas posted:

loving

The gently caress is a fish fry?

# ? Feb 13, 2017 21:36

Gringostar: Nov 12, 2016; Morbid Hound

Hemingway To Go! posted:

I haven't been able to keep up with the 1000 posts a day this thread has, what happened to Keith ellison and why is a guy named butt the new hotness

ellison is a bad dem that goes to big money corporate fundraisers instead of marching with the people

buttigieg is a good dem that not only marches with protesters but was a bernie bro back in 2000

# ? Feb 13, 2017 21:36

Thoguh: Nov 8, 2002; College Slice

mugrim posted:

There's both rumors this election, as well as outright claims in Game Change, that Clinton promoted and paid people more often if they could come up with a math based justification for not having to visit anywhere too far outside major metro areas and that it was the biggest point of contention for planning her movements.

So you're telling me that she wasn't actually enjoying chilling in Cedar Rapids, which at a population of 126,326 and a metro area of only 266,040 is only about 1/20th the size of New York?

# ? Feb 13, 2017 21:38

Karl Barks: Jan 21, 1981

you guys keep saying buttigeig but conveniently leave out that his name is... pete

# ? Feb 13, 2017 21:39

logikv9: Mar 5, 2009; Ham Wrangler

I read both books twice over and I don't remember this

# ? Feb 13, 2017 21:39

logikv9: Mar 5, 2009; Ham Wrangler

Karl Barks posted:

you guys keep saying buttigeig but conveniently leave out that his name is... pete

BUTTIGIEG, also known as pete to his friends

# ? Feb 13, 2017 21:39

Al!: Apr 2, 2010

Karl Barks posted:

you guys keep saying buttigeig but conveniently leave out that his name is... pete

i wonder if he identifies more with big pete or little pete

# ? Feb 13, 2017 21:40

Concerned Citizen: Jul 22, 2007; Ramrod XTreme

mugrim posted:

There's both rumors this election, as well as outright claims in Game Change, that Clinton promoted and paid people more often if they could come up with a math based justification for not having to visit anywhere too far outside major metro areas and that it was the biggest point of contention for planning her movements.

clinton promoting and paying people more for not telling her to not leave metro areas is nonsense, but in the 2008 primary she did a LOT of rural visits. far more than 2016. she did so many that she actually dropped into picnics by helicopter. one of bill clinton's final 2008 iowa events was actually in missouri valley. rural was her base so this makes sense.

democratic presidential candidates in GEs don't usually do rural/small events that aren't fundraisers, so i'm sort of focusing on primaries here. i wouldn't be surprised if she detested rural events given how few she did in 2016. she did a lot of small "organizing events" with 70~ish people (with volunteers) during the primary, but she definitely hit more urban areas over and over again.

# ? Feb 13, 2017 21:40

white sauce: Apr 29, 2012; by R. Guyovich

Thoguh posted:

So you're telling me that she wasn't actually enjoying chilling in Cedar Rapids, which at a population of 126,326 and a metro area of only 266,040 is only about 1/20th the size of New York?

Something tells me it's not the amount of people around NYC and Cali that make her want to stick around.

It's...something else. Idk what this woman wants above all else. Someone help me out here.

What does Hillary want above all else? 🤔

# ? Feb 13, 2017 21:41

Lastgirl: Sep 7, 1997; Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!

Time for a a little Game Theory

Pick Pete

# ? Feb 13, 2017 21:43

tadashi: Feb 20, 2006

Tight Booty Shorts posted:

Something tells me it's not the amount of people around NYC and Cali that make her want to stick around.

It's...something else. Idk what this woman wants above all else. Someone help me out here.

What does Hillary want above all else? 🤔

To crush her enemies, to see them driven before her, and to hear the lamentations of their women.

Duh

# ? Feb 13, 2017 21:44

logikv9: Mar 5, 2009; Ham Wrangler

The death of the republican party

# ? Feb 13, 2017 21:45

logikv9: Mar 5, 2009; Ham Wrangler

bootedgeedge for president

# ? Feb 13, 2017 21:46

Nonsense: Jan 26, 2007

logikv9 posted:

The death of the republican party

# ? Feb 13, 2017 21:46

loquacius: Oct 21, 2008

Tight Booty Shorts posted:

Something tells me it's not the amount of people around NYC and Cali that make her want to stick around.

It's...something else. Idk what this woman wants above all else. Someone help me out here.

What does Hillary want above all else? 🤔

To destroy anyone who has ever dared stand against her?

# ? Feb 13, 2017 21:47

Gringostar: Nov 12, 2016; Morbid Hound

logikv9 posted:

The death of the republican party

she knew the only way to kill the republican party was to let trump be president

# ? Feb 13, 2017 21:48

logikv9: Mar 5, 2009; Ham Wrangler

if Obama listened to Hillary in 2009 he would have been a substantially better president

# ? Feb 13, 2017 21:48

Grimoire: Jul 9, 2003

Tight Booty Shorts posted:

What does Hillary want above all else? 🤔

Pizza and anal?

# ? Feb 13, 2017 21:49

Gringostar: Nov 12, 2016; Morbid Hound

logikv9 posted:

if Obama listened to Hillary in 2009 he would have been a substantially better president

obama thought republicans could be trusted when he became president

hell, he still thinks it

# ? Feb 13, 2017 21:49

loquacius: Oct 21, 2008

Tight Booty Shorts posted:

What does Hillary want above all else? 🤔

A hot dog with no bun

# ? Feb 13, 2017 21:51

Zerg Mans: Oct 19, 2006

Tight Booty Shorts posted:

What does Hillary want above all else? 🤔

Huma Abedin

# ? Feb 13, 2017 21:51

Gringostar: Nov 12, 2016; Morbid Hound

Grimoire posted:

Pizza and anal?

zegermans posted:

Huma Abedin

she's not wrong

# ? Feb 13, 2017 21:53

white sauce: Apr 29, 2012; by R. Guyovich

You're all wrong.

The answer is:

She wants to curl up in bed with a good book. That or buy lots of expensive confetti cannons to shatter glass ceilings.

# ? Feb 13, 2017 21:53

mugrim: Mar 2, 2007; The same eye cannot both look up to heaven and down to earth.

Concerned Citizen posted:

clinton promoting and paying people more for not telling her to not leave metro areas is nonsense, but in the 2008 primary she did a LOT of rural visits. far more than 2016. she did so many that she actually dropped into picnics by helicopter. one of bill clinton's final 2008 iowa events was actually in missouri valley. rural was her base so this makes sense.

Her unofficial headquarters were literally in the Hamptons, her base wasn't rural. She had a ton of southern connections prior to 2008 (that she lost because many were black) but she's a NY senator.

As per GC, she was constantly pissed if she couldn't end the day in a big city, I'll find the portion of the book later.

# ? Feb 13, 2017 21:55

Comrade Cheggorsky: Aug 20, 2011

cant wait for game change 2016 or whatever its equivalent will be, give me all the hot deets about bad dems

# ? Feb 13, 2017 22:05

Concerned Citizen: Jul 22, 2007; Ramrod XTreme

mugrim posted:

Her unofficial headquarters were literally in the Hamptons, her base wasn't rural. She had a ton of southern connections prior to 2008 (that she lost because many were black) but she's a NY senator.

As per GC, she was constantly pissed if she couldn't end the day in a big city, I'll find the portion of the book later.

hillary was winning like 60-70% of rural voters in the 2008 primary. obama got rinsed among rural whites especially. not sure how you can say that wasn't her base?

# ? Feb 13, 2017 22:12

G-Hawk: Dec 15, 2003

mugrim posted:

Her unofficial headquarters were literally in the Hamptons, her base wasn't rural. She had a ton of southern connections prior to 2008 (that she lost because many were black) but she's a NY senator.

As per GC, she was constantly pissed if she couldn't end the day in a big city, I'll find the portion of the book later.

Hillary slaughtered Obama with rural voters in 2008, one of the early surprises in 2016 was basically her strengths and weaknesses flipped geographically. Here is indiana exit poll for example

Population of area, five categories
Pct. of total Clinton Obama
12 Over 500 thousand 29 71
15 50 to 500 thousand 48 52
52 Suburbs 53 47
21 Rural 68 32

there was also this in spring of 2008:

G-Hawk has issued a correction as of 22:15 on Feb 13, 2017

# ? Feb 13, 2017 22:13

MizPiz: May 29, 2013; by Athanatos

Nonsense posted:

Burn the banks with lawyers inside them

# ? Feb 13, 2017 22:15

Elephant Ambush: Nov 13, 2012; ...We sholde spenden more time together. What sayest thou?; Nap Ghost

Nonsense posted:

# ? Feb 13, 2017 22:16

Lastgirl: Sep 7, 1997; Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!

Boot i egde egg

gently caress i can't do it

# ? Feb 13, 2017 22:19

mugrim: Mar 2, 2007; The same eye cannot both look up to heaven and down to earth.

Concerned Citizen posted:

hillary was winning like 60-70% of rural voters in the 2008 primary. obama got rinsed among rural whites especially. not sure how you can say that wasn't her base?

I think of a base as a traditional foundation of support, not just who likes you here and now. In NY, she dominated urban areas.

I don't think in 2008 "Rural support" was her base, I just think Obama basically took non rural areas she wanted and all she had left was rural white areas that didn't take too kindly to him.

# ? Feb 13, 2017 22:20