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OSI bean dip posted:Yeah. Our MBA-having former Prime Minister did a great job. Who was the last prime minister that had an MBA? I don't know off the top of my head.
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he means harper and harper had a masters in economics from the prestigious, internationally applauded university of calgary
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namaste faggots posted:he means harper and harper had a masters in economics from the prestigious, internationally applauded university of calgary The Haskayne School of Business was ranked 82nd in the world by The Economist in 2010 
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hurrah! go canada!!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-z9d1sk3N-M my heart well with pride
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namaste faggots posted:hurrah! go canada!! 
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Subjunctive posted:No, I mean so that the medication can be administered weekly instead of daily. I'm not talking about tapering, just extending the delayed-release capability from 12 hours to a week or 10 days. In a world where people are 100% compliant with their medications sure but what's your backup plan when someone can't remember if they took their psych meds yesterday and end up getting double a week's dose cause they figured they didn't?
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Eej posted:In a world where people are 100% compliant with their medications sure but what's your backup plan when someone can't remember if they took their psych meds yesterday and end up getting double a week's dose cause they figured they didn't?     
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the last pic is of canpol dignitary THC's hero and DTES MP
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Decades of systematic gentrification starting in the 1980s and a dismantling of mental health services started by the Socreds, continued by the NDP, and made worse by the BC Liberals. 
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Feb 14, 2017 00:47
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Please tell me that sign is on the highway of tears
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Jenny is good people
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Eej posted:In a world where people are 100% compliant with their medications sure but what's your backup plan when someone can't remember if they took their psych meds yesterday and end up getting double a week's dose cause they figured they didn't? I mean for supervised administration. Weekly direct supervision is much less invasive than daily.
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Feb 14, 2017 01:12
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let's see -defending money laundering -siphoning money from a DTES charity for vacations (and a shady loving charity at that) -lives in multimillion dollar house in kits makes 167k/year Dan Small, her ex husband is adjunct prof at UBC and make so little he doesn't even make the salary list. so yeah good people i guess
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http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/portland-hotel-society-audit-reveals-limos-cruises-luxury-hotels-1.2580427quote:
From two years ago. I guess you could argue you get PTSD working on the DTES so you need to blow off steam by taking lots of vacations on the charity dime
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Eej posted:In a world where people are 100% compliant with their medications sure but what's your backup plan when someone can't remember if they took their psych meds yesterday and end up getting double a week's dose cause they figured they didn't? Unless we're talking about the person administering their own medication ideally I'd hope that the location they're getting it from would keep that sort of information on file. This is likely extremely naive.
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James Baud fucked around with this message at 12:55 on Aug 26, 2018 |
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Feb 14, 2017 01:40
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The idea that government is supposed to be efficient is ludicrous.
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James Baud posted:The last few days I've been getting the scoop on yet another particular mismanaged charity's spending from someone involved in getting them their initial funding from both the government and private sector, doing a lot of their preliminary budgets and whatnot. If you would actually post the charity in question I'm sure it would make for very interesting discussion, but Jesus Christ every post you make reads like a comment from a CBC article
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TheKingofSprings posted:If you would actually post the charity in question I'm sure it would make for very interesting discussion, but Jesus Christ every post you make reads like a comment from a Sun article Fixed that for you. James Baud is too good for the CBC.
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please don't dox me
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James Baud posted:The last few days I've been getting the scoop on yet another particular mismanaged charity's spending from someone involved in getting them their initial funding from both the government and private sector, doing a lot of their preliminary budgets and whatnot. Let me guess, Atira?
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Where are your constant predictions of O'Leary not getting the nomination?
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OSI bean dip posted:Where are your constant predictions of O'Leary not getting the nomination? you know how much i care who gets nominated cpc leader
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namaste faggots posted:you know how much i care who gets nominated cpc leader Nnnnggg.... so much...
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Feb 14, 2017 02:11
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But if they cap daycare costs won't that just incentivize for-profit daycare to cram increasing numbers of kids into each center with inadequate supervision to maintain their margins? Or are you hoping for strict regulations on both costs and capacity, and private enterprise will enter the market out of the goodness of their hearts? Or, wait, is this one of those cases where it should be a government service, since it's necessary for the public good, but at odds with for profit business?
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Personally I don't believe this excuse but it's hilarious. The reason there are so few daycares in Vancouver is because the city imposes unreasonably stringent standards on the facilities that house daycares. Like there has to be a certain amount of natural light that illuminates the daycare, there has to be a minimum of x square feet of play area etc. The solution, fair goons, allow daycares to be housed in warehouses segmented with chain link fencing.
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sounds like the daycare market is ripe for disruption. we need an uber for daycare so we can connect studio basement apartment dwellers with needy children
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Or more appropriately a Grindr for childcare right
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too late: https://ridezum.com/index.html
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Alright, fine, I'll bite, since I work pretty closely with the mental health systems and I was told I should post. There is a lot of misinformation out there about the mental health systems both forensic (criminal) and civil, how the two interact, when treatment can and can't be mandated, and how this all interacts with someone like Mr. Baker. This leads to a lot of people getting up in arms about why isn't he supervised oh no it'll be like two weeks and there'll be a murder-gore fest. There won't be, and thinking there will be is part of the broader stigmatization of mental illness and people living with mental illness. It's unfair, unjustified, and stereotypical. The first misconception is with regards to dangerousness. Most people living with a mental disorder, even schizophrenia, are not dangerous. Even untreated, most are no more dangerous than the average person. Bizarre and eccentric, perhaps even a nuisance, but not dangerous. Schizophrenia in particular is often accompanied by a number of negative symptoms including amotivation, low energy, and cognitive impairment that slows them down, even to the point they might not be taking care of themselves. Most of the time, if a person with a major mental disorder is in crisis, the person greatest at risk is themselves. The second misconception surrounds what we call insight. People living with mental illnesses are, in fact, capable of learning about their diagnosis. They can learn to understand the need for the medication, and when and how often they take it. They can be capable of self-identifying early changes of deterioration. They can have close relationships with their psychiatrists and support networks, which can include both professionals and lay people like family and friends. Most people with mental illnesses have this figured out. They take their medication regularly, and some even choose to take a monthly injection because it's more convenient and gives them the certainty they aren't missing a dose. Insight isn't always easy to find, though, especially when the person hasn't been diagnosed, or only recently diagnosed. The tragedy of a mental illness is that it affects a person's perception of reality, so understanding why the world suddenly feels like a horror movie isn't easy. As people have pointed out, the medication can be extremely sedating, the side-effects can be atrocious, and it can take years or even decades for people to find a combination of medications that works for them and a psychiatrist and team that they can trust. The other problem is that if the right combination of medications hasn't been found yet, the person's symptoms might still be there and interfere with the development of insight. That's where the third misconception I want to talk about comes in: mandated treatment. For better or for worse, legislatures have given medical professionals the option of overriding a person's normal ability to consent to treatment and to detain them. This is of course intrusive, and violates the right to liberty and security of the person, but the various legal frameworks have a few built in oversight options. The problem with mandated treatment is that it is mandated. No one likes to be forced to do anything, and when you impose a restrictive regime on a person it isn't exactly conducive to developing a good therapeutic relationship. This is where you run into those people who might cycle into and out of the mandated treatment system, only getting treatment when someone else notices they might get into trouble. But not everyone needs mandated treatment, and not everyone who enters mandated treatment is doomed to cycle through it forever. Some people hit on a good combination of medication, and this clears their mind enough for them to develop insight. Others find a team they like and can trust, and are willing to work with them until things get better. Some people never develop insight, but drat if the medication helps them to get a good night's rest, they'll keep on taking it. Sometimes getting to this point might take one, ten, twenty, or no periods of mandated treatment. The last misconception people often have surrounds the forensic system and the Review Boards, which is where we come to Mr. Baker. If a person is found Not Criminally Responsible by Mental Disorder, they were not capable of forming the necessary mental element to be guilty of a crime. But it does usually mean that they may pose a significant risk, and so long as they do, the Review Boards' task is to assess what that risk is and what supervision is necessary to protect the public from that risk. The Criminal Code authorizes a number of steps and degrees of detention and supervision that might be necessary to protect the public, but it is also important to recognize that a person found NCRMD is not guilty and therefore entitled to the broadest liberties possible within what is necessary to protect the public. But fine, if you're up in arms about this, you probably don't care about that. So what does absolute discharge mean? It means the Review Board found a person not to be a significant risk. To get there, in all likelihood, Mr. Baker demonstrated the necessary insight to fall into that category of people who do not need mandated treatment. It doesn't mean he doesn't need treatment, it means that he demonstrated that he knows he needs treatment and has the necessary supports on discharge from the forensic system. There is no way that doesn't include a psychiatrist and other necessary supports, and if anything changes. It also knows he's shown them he knows what triggers, destabilizes, and stresses his disorder and what he needs to do to protect himself from those factors. Insight is also impossible to fake, and the forensic psychiatrists view any defect, any reluctance to talk about or disclose the smallest thing as a sign that insight as imperfect. And they're very clear about risk implications in this regard with the Review Board. For anyone to be viewed as a 'model patient' for as long as Mr. Baker, he had be doing very very well in this and other aspects of his treatment. But, in the end, if you're still upset, try to remember the recidivism rate for people after absolute discharge is minuscule compared to the prison system. As far as actually achieving rehabilitation, the forensic psychiatric system has been remarkably successful. As for Mr. Baker, I'm glad he's understood his diagnosis and found medication and doctors that will work for him. He still has to live with his past, and that's punishment enough as far as I'm concerned.
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No u R Rong because my gut tells me otherwise and if there's anything I'm good at its ignoring people with expertise and deep insight and trusting my gut instead - jordan
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hahaha i loving hate the 21st century
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namaste faggots posted:No u R Rong because my gut tells me otherwise and if there's anything I'm good at its ignoring people with expertise and deep insight and trusting my gut instead if your gut tells you things maybe you should see a doctor about your mental health
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RBC posted:hahaha i loving hate the 21st century tbf the 20th century was mostly bad too. like maybe we hit kind of a socioeconomic sweet spot in the 90's an 00's until the terrorists won, and the 70's might have been pretty cool if you were white, but everything outside of that is just like getting sent to war and lovely racism/sexism all over the place. Also the video games were bad and or non existent.
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