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Minorkos posted:not everyone, just the people who are decently good at the game. you do not need to include yourself in this hypothetical group if you don't want to. You don't even own the game, can you go back to perfect mastering Street Fighter 5?
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It's a pretty uncontroversial statement. Fighting games are notorious for being toxic as hell, only possibly surpassed by MOBAs. Maybe.
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Zaphod42 posted:Horseshit you did i don't own the game so sadly i cannot provide video evidence of this myself. i only played the game during the beta feel free to gift me a copy on steam though so i can try recording it. i'll post findings in this thread afterwards
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Zaphod42 posted:So much 100% false information in this thread. Jesus. How are you this retarded? Sorry people aren't in love with the same hero as you. There is nothing false about what I said. Exhaustion really, really doesn't matter. No, being forced to be defensive for a period really doesn't have much of a downside. It's an extremely short period of time. You're correct that nobody can guard/parry perfectly 100% of the time, however unless you have literal poo poo for brains you can manage it the vast majority of the time. Stop getting worked up over people disagreeing with your demonstrably crappy opinion. Fresh Shesh Besh fucked around with this message at 20:21 on Feb 15, 2017 |
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Feb 15, 2017 20:17
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Minorkos posted:i don't own the game Holy loving poo poo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NuONuafxwk 
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Minorkos posted:i don't own the game lol
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Feb 15, 2017 20:18
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For Honor: i dont actually own the game
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Feb 15, 2017 20:23
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i suppose the 3 days that that have passed since the beta may have distorted my understanding of the game, and it may be a completely different product now or you know, maybe it's the exact same as it was 3 days ago and everything i say still applies because there were no real changes since then i'll probably buy the game tomorrow because i do like swordfighting games even if they have design flaws edit: fyi this avatar was bought for me
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Minorkos posted:i suppose the 3 days that that have passed since the beta may have distorted my understanding of the game, and it may be a completely different product now the guardbreak change is pretty loving substantial and actually crumbles your entire argument of 'you can turtle forever!'. you might know this if, you know, you actually played the release version of the game. or listened to people in the thread who have. panda clue fucked around with this message at 20:28 on Feb 15, 2017 |
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panda clue posted:the guardbreak change is pretty loving substantial and actually crumbles your entire argument of 'you can turtle forever!'. you might know this if, you know, you actually played the release version of the game. yes, i read that they changed the timing to be later and you can't mash out of it anymore. i don't think it actually made it harder to get out of it, the timing is just different. perhap i will test it tomorrow and report on my findings, i assume i'm right about this
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So you hate the game and its mechanics, but plan on buying it anyway? Why? Just to spite the people disagreeing with you?
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Minorkos posted:yes, i read that they changed the timing to be later and you can't mash out of it anymore. i don't think it actually made it harder to get out of it, the timing is just different. perhap i will test it tomorrow and report on my findings, i assume i'm right about this The timing isn't changed. If try to tech early, the tech will now fail. Previously, you could just start spamming the guardbreak button as soon as you saw one coming in and get it every single time. Now you actually have to time it correctly. It creates an opportunity for the player to fuckup/fail in their defense. Minorkos posted:i assume i'm right about this i'm shocked
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FunkMonkey posted:So you hate the game and its mechanics, but plan on buying it anyway? Why? Just to spite the people disagreeing with you? hey man i really like samurai swords and ninjas
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Feb 15, 2017 20:34
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OctaMurk posted:For Honor: i dont actually own the game
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FunkMonkey posted:So you hate the game and its mechanics, but plan on buying it anyway? Why? Just to spite the people disagreeing with you? He can do what he wants with his money, but this is how this is going to go: He's just going to come back and say "I WAS RIGHT" after posting some boring 10 minute long duel with someone on his friends list. People will explain to him what he did wrong and what he could have done to exploit the opportunities he had to force damage. He will say "NUH UH" and not listen to anyone, and the world will continue to spin.
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OctaMurk posted:For Honor: i dont actually own the game 
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Kamikaze Raider posted:He can do what he wants with his money, but this is how this is going to go: are you a wizard?
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For Honor: whatever, you're still going to buy it
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Kamikaze Raider posted:He can do what he wants with his money, but this is how this is going to go: lmao if you think i have friends
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Feb 15, 2017 20:43
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I'm. ..really not enjoying this as much as I thoight I would. Not helped by the fact I don't seem to be very good. Vast majority of people just take me apart.
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Feb 15, 2017 20:46
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Roblo posted:I'm. ..really not enjoying this as much as I thoight I would. Not helped by the fact I don't seem to be very good. Vast majority of people just take me apart. Competitive skill based games like fighting games can be real frustrating if you aren't getting lots of what's going on. If players are taking you apart, have you played versus AI? You can still level up and earn rewards even fighting AI, so that's a good way to practice. Did you do the advanced practice? Earns you some steel and teaches you some cool stuff. After that, make sure you watch both the Basic and Advanced videos under "How to play" for your chosen character. Make sure you really understand all their moves and combos and unique abilities. Practice them on a level 0 bot or in an AI duel, and then go play with players. And try lots of different characters, they play very different and some are way harder to get good at. But if you don't wanna put in the time to learn and just wanna mash dudes faces, I get you. Dynasty Warriors is great for that  Minorkos posted:lmao if you think i have friends Well... I don't even know what to say to that. Seriously though dude chill the hell out on telling everybody they're not really having fun and the game is bad. If you want, buy the game, fight me, and we'll see if you can really perfectly block and guard-break everything every single time, or if you ever get tripped up. I'm no pro MLG player or anything but even then I doubt you'll be able to play perfectly, but maybe you are a savant. Or don't buy the game and go post in some thread about some game you do own and do enjoy playing.
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Roblo posted:I'm. ..really not enjoying this as much as I thoight I would. Not helped by the fact I don't seem to be very good. Vast majority of people just take me apart. I want to love the Conqueror but with the Warlord and Warden i won't get turbomurdered all the time.
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so holy poo poo the shugoki is loving amazing and i'm in love
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Roblo posted:I'm. ..really not enjoying this as much as I thoight I would. Not helped by the fact I don't seem to be very good. Vast majority of people just take me apart. Hi I'm a scrub too. Doesn't help that I jumped right into Nobushi, but I'm getting better (I guess).
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Finding your particular guy is a big key to having fun, yeah. I really like the nobushi's fashion choices and range, but I can't win fights as her. I own bones as the raider and warlord, though, so learning the fun things about them helped me get a lot more engaged.
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TV dog Wishbone of PBS posted:Game clicked for me when i found the characters i do good with. This is good advice. I wanted to dunk on people with a flail but I suck with heavy characters. The Warden is unfortunately the only Knight class I'm not bad with, so I stick to Warlord, Berserker, and Kensei. You have more fun with the game when you find a character you're good with, and fight alongside buddies you can communicate with. I find that when I've got a team to talk to we can coordinate and not get mauled in 3v1 battles all over the map. Also generally, does anyone have good suggestions for how to lock down a Nobushi? Them and Orochi are the only classes I consistently lose against and it's getting under my skin.
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Minorkos posted:i don't own the game so sadly wow you have no honor, where's the honor in not owning the game
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Here's a steaming hot take: Minorkos is right about all or most of his points but the majority of us are not operating at the skill level where it matters. It is simultaneously possible to not be affected or inconvenienced by design flaws and also hope they are addressed for the people who are in that skill bracket.
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Decided to learn the Lawbringer to see if he was bad as his reputation and man. Wow. Yeah this guy is bad. He's supposed to be the king of parries and counter attacks yet all his combos and swings are so slow the only damage that you can get is the free light attack from a parry. His shove and parry attack are combo starters but you're so loving slow you'll never get them off. You can't even get a hit from a shove and his stamina usage is crazy that if you manage to actually do something by the time you can capitalise on it you're jack poo poo out of stamina. Even his unblockables aren't worth using because even medium skill level people with no stamina can parry them no problem.
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Minorkos posted:except the only one that's really affected is just regular attacking You're wrong on several points here. Rolling is completely disabled. Parrying works, but you can't cancel a parry if they feint which leads to a slowified heavy which leads to you lying on the ground taking bonus damage.
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Minorkos posted:except the only one that's really affected is just regular attacking You cannot roll. Attacking is incredible slow. You can get knocked off of cliffs by blocking strong attacks. You get knocked down by getting thrown. Literally everything you do is affected in some way...
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Feb 15, 2017 21:07
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Who woulda thought that someone who doesn't own the game has no idea what they're talking about? Truly shocking imo
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Why do goons get so defensive about video games they like? (I also really like this game and Minorkos made some good points)
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Barent posted:Why do goons get so defensive about video games they like? Who is getting defensive? We're calling him wrong. This has nothing to do with 'defending the game'. He may have made a few good points, but they get lost in the sea of complete bullshit.
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panda clue posted:Who is getting defensive? We're calling him wrong. This has nothing to do with 'defending the game'. You and Zaphod, but I digress. Just an observation. I've been maining Lawbringer and while I enjoy it I can't see him being good at higher levels. Doesn't seem to have many good mixup options and even his special parry stuff seems lackluster. I guess I just need more practice.
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Double Monocle posted:Point taken. Thank you!
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Does anyone even know how matchmaking works right now? Like, do you have a separate ranking for every single mode or just one universal skill tier? Also does completing the story mode grant a good amount of steel?
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Barent posted:You and Zaphod, but I digress. Just an observation. Talking about game mechanics isn't really defending the game.
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Internet Kraken posted:Does anyone even know how matchmaking works right now? Like, do you have a separate ranking for every single mode or just one universal skill tier? Yes, the game pretends to try and match you up via region and skill, and despite having dozens of thousands of players, then says "All regions, all skill levels" and throws you into a game.
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