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yeah I'm pretty sure there would be more people telling them that.
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The main thing with having live subjects to stab needles in isn't because training dummies are too expensive, it's to weed out the people who are too squeamish to give injections/take blood and get people used to doing it. It's an important hurdle nursing students have to pass. Nursing students often practise taking blood in groups of three so that when someone faints there's someone else to catch them. nice, hi five imaginary black man
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LITERALLY A BIRD posted:The most implausible thing is that the necklace is for a third party. Well, I trust you to know.
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CROWS EVERYWHERE posted:The main thing with having live subjects to stab needles in isn't because training dummies are too expensive, it's to weed out the people who are too squeamish to give injections/take blood and get people used to doing it. It's an important hurdle nursing students have to pass. We were never allowed to stick each other with needles, not even for blood glucose tests. Can't remember why, probably an infection control or health and safety thing. First time I put an actual subcut needle into someone it was an actual patient, poor woman. I don't know if uni is more hardcore about it though 
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Feb 14, 2017 11:22
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A coworker of mine has a daughter who is a nurse and during her schooling she practiced on him. He hated needles and would come to work with black bruises here and there but he wanted to help.
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Feb 14, 2017 11:51
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hogmartin posted:
Oh no, you also have to stay current on your gassing to make sure your mask fits, has a good seal, and to make sure you can put the goddamn thing on in 8 seconds or less. And do PT in the gas chamber. And say the soldier's creed. The only difference is, in basic they make sure they get photos of you stumbling out of the gas chamber with long strings of snot coming out of your nose, and after that first time they halfway expect you to be able to handle it And SERE? Depending on the level of SERE they can hurt you in almost any way other than what would cause permanent injury
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Feb 14, 2017 14:38
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How do people with beards handle gasmask stuff?
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Feb 14, 2017 14:55
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Dejawesp posted:How do people with beards handle gasmask stuff? They shave them off. IIRC you can only have a neatly trimmed retail-manager/serial killer/70s porn 'stache and that's it for facial hair in the military.
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flosofl posted:They shave them off. IIRC you can only have a neatly trimmed retail-manager/serial killer/70s porn 'stache and that's it for facial hair in the military. Except when they don't! quote:Another yeshiva student, Aaron, declared, "In a time of war, I will not shave my beard under any circumstances." He said he would prefer to keep the beard and wear a mask, but if that is not possible, he is not worried. “God watches over us. When the hour of danger arrives, I will ask a rabbi and only if he allows it, I will shave my beard.”
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Feb 14, 2017 15:09
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Seems like a self-correcting problem to me.
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http://gizmodo.com/canada-s-badass-new-defense-minister-patented-this-gas-1741012986 Also I am now shivering all over from all this needle chat, I'd prefer to be gassed than get my blood taken 
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CROWS EVERYWHERE posted:The main thing with having live subjects to stab needles in isn't because training dummies are too expensive, it's to weed out the people who are too squeamish to give injections/take blood and get people used to doing it. It's an important hurdle nursing students have to pass. That would make me run screaming, but she loved the program, so...
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flosofl posted:They shave them off. IIRC you can only have a neatly trimmed retail-manager/serial killer/70s porn 'stache and that's it for facial hair in the military. Hitler adopted his mustache in order for it to fit his gas mask. What he looked like before trimming: 
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CROWS EVERYWHERE posted:The main thing with having live subjects to stab needles in isn't because training dummies are too expensive, it's to weed out the people who are too squeamish to give injections/take blood and get people used to doing it. It's an important hurdle nursing students have to pass. Right, I know practicing blood draws and IV sticks is not uncommon, I just figured they'd draw the line at puncturing someone's sternum for a demonstration. Like, they don't practice emergency tracheotomies on each other, right? ....right?
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Dejawesp posted:How do people with beards handle gasmask stuff? Not allowed to have beards in any of the armed forces, there may be some exceptions in Navy cases due to tradition, but they would be extremely rare and in very specific circumstances. As needed, most special operations personnel in any branch may be allowed to grow beards, mostly only on deployment or in preparation to blend in more to the local population in Middle Eastern countries. IIRC they mostly must be clean shaven otherwise, at least in garrison (at home). For anyone else, it's clean shaven. My facial hair grows fairly quickly and is darkest when at the five o'clock shadow stage, so I sometimes had to shave twice a day, in the morning and at lunch. Some guys could get away with using an electric razor, and some guys had permanent babyface with no need to shave almost ever. Not me. If you missed a single spot on your face or neck you got hammered for it. The official reason for not allowing beards (or one of the reasons, this being a big one) is because beards will not allow a proper pro mask seal. This is important because some units still issue old lovely pro masks because the military is largely cheap and will give you equipment that they contracted from the lowest bidder. If this weren't the case, the military might now have positive pressure masks, but that would also force the entire military to train with that new equipment. But mainly it's because they have to enforce standards and discipline, and no army looking like a rag-tag bunch of hooligans with patchy facial hair and hipster beards will do. fe: I think Sikh service members can retain their beards, because religious reasons. ne: other exceptions might be African-American or Caribbean-American service members, because they may be more prone to razor bumps. I saw a lot of guys rock shaving profiles (medical orders from a military doc detailing something the service member is physically not allowed to do because of medical reasons and for how long or under what circumstances) because of razor bumps so they didn't have to shave; razor bumps can be really lovely and make it literally impossible to shave with a razor. hogmartin posted:Right, I know practicing blood draws and IV sticks is not uncommon, I just figured they'd draw the line at puncturing someone's sternum for a demonstration. Like, they don't practice emergency tracheotomies on each other, right? Even the military has mostly stopped the training for giving IVs and such, at least for anyone combat lifesaver certified. Their reasoning was that combat lifesavers should only be doing the bare minimum required to keep a person alive before the medics see him or her, and if there is a medic close by who can administer an IV, that's best. I can give an IV, but hosed if I want to because it's more complicated than it sounds. Emergency tracheotomies are definitely done on dummies. So is anything involving a tension pneumothorax, the needle and catheter for which could hurt someone who doesn't actually need to relieve pressure on a lung. life is killing me has a new favorite as of 17:26 on Feb 14, 2017 |
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What about all those pictures of tough looking soldiers with lumberjack beards?
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life is killing me posted:Not allowed to have beards in any of the armed forces, there may be some exceptions in Navy cases due to tradition, but they would be extremely rare and in very specific circumstances. Submarines allowed, ten years ago, at least, beards underway. You had to buy a $20 chit for it, and the money went to the morale/recreation fund. On halfway night, there would be prizes for fullest, fanciest, weediest, etc. It was probably allowed because the two emergency breathing masks on the boat are the EAB (plugs into a manifold overhead) and the Scott Air-Pak SCBA (the thing you see firefighters wearing). Both of those are positive-pressure masks, so the incoming air is going to flush out smoke even if you don't have a perfect seal. Beards as an ordinary part of your everyday appearance haven't been allowed since the 1970s; it's just the molestache now. The medical no-shave chits you mentioned were also a thing, and yes, mostly for black men who would get some really painful-looking razor rash if they had to shave daily.
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Dejawesp posted:What about all those pictures of tough looking soldiers with lumberjack beards? Almost always special operations forces or, more likely even, paramilitary contractors (consisting of former SOF anyway) mistaken in photos for actual active military. hogmartin posted:Submarines allowed, ten years ago, at least, beards underway. You had to buy a $20 chit for it, and the money went to the morale/recreation fund. On halfway night, there would be prizes for fullest, fanciest, weediest, etc. It was probably allowed because the two emergency breathing masks on the boat are the EAB (plugs into a manifold overhead) and the Scott Air-Pak SCBA (the thing you see firefighters wearing). Both of those are positive-pressure masks, so the incoming air is going to flush out smoke even if you don't have a perfect seal. Beards as an ordinary part of your everyday appearance haven't been allowed since the 1970s; it's just the molestache now. Yeah, submariners are something I forgot about, but I wasn't in the Navy. Deployment 'staches were a thing and probably still are; it was like an unspoken, unofficial competition of who could look the most like a child molester, bonus points if you had your military-issue birth control glasses, which have mostly remained unchanged since 'Nam. I had a pair of those in Basic (my eyesight is poo poo, so they were thick lenses) and had a drill sergeant ask me if I could see into the future. Anyway, it's a little more lax on the 'staches on deployment (at least when I deployed), and you'd have fewer first sergeants and sergeants major bee-lining to you with a knife-hand at the ready if the ends of your moustache were past the corners of your mouth.
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 Yes I'm sure that label was on the cat until you casually passed by and noticed it. Dejawesp has a new favorite as of 12:34 on Feb 15, 2017 |
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Yeah I'm sure someone actually opened a gifted labelmaker and used it instead of putting it in the closet for the next holiday to regift to someone they don't like. There's even a Seinfeld episode based almost entirely on how bad of a gift it is.
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It would be a terrible gift, but it's good fun to have in a workplace. When I was in my teens we used to label all sorts of unnecessary stuff
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Dejawesp posted:
It's a dad, he probably took the pictures himself while giggling. Label makers are actually not a bad dad gift, dads love to do poo poo like that
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yeah I eat rear end posted:Yeah I'm sure someone actually opened a gifted labelmaker and used it instead of putting it in the closet for the next holiday to regift to someone they don't like. I got a label maker for Christmas two years ago from my girlfriend's mother and I love it. I probably use it twice a week or so because I label leftovers that I freeze with the date. And all of my storage tubs in my closet are labeled with what's inside them. What I'm saying is they are great gifts for the forgetful/organized person in your life.
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Eponine posted:I got a label maker for Christmas two years ago from my girlfriend's mother and I love it. I probably use it twice a week or so because I label leftovers that I freeze with the date. And all of my storage tubs in my closet are labeled with what's inside them. What I'm saying is they are great gifts for the forgetful/organized person in your life. I use mine to label my outwardly identical tea boxes.
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Bors, one of my favourite politoonists who gets regularly posted in the politoons threads, got a label maker and one point and started labelling everything DEBT so I'm pretty sure a regular ol' dad would love labelling everything and giggling and texting his kids photos of the silly labels
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Bertrand Hustle posted:It's a dad, he probably took the pictures himself while giggling. I'm a dad. This checks out 100%.
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Can confirm. My dad has labels on the remote controls on the living room coffee table, TV, DVD, TUNER, stuff like that. The remotes are all from different companies and none looks like another, plus he's had them all for like ten years. It's about as necessary as labelling OVEN and REFRIGERATOR and FREEZER so you don't confuse them. Labelling things is just some kind of dad biological imperative.
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hogmartin posted:Can confirm. My dad has labels on the remote controls on the living room coffee table, TV, DVD, TUNER, stuff like that. The remotes are all from different companies and none looks like another, plus he's had them all for like ten years. It's about as necessary as labelling OVEN and REFRIGERATOR and FREEZER so you don't confuse them. Labelling things is just some kind of dad biological imperative. Man's inherent desire to categorize and name his environs
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When I was a Wacky Kid we would take my friend's dad's label maker and label random things, such as: The bag inside a cereal box Doors Every individual slice in a loaf of bread
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sweeperbravo posted:Man's inherent desire to categorize and name his environs Dad Anal, So What
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Labelmakers are also great for learning other languages  I miss having a labelmaker.
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But... that actually did happen?
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It's amazing how easily you can tell from reading that that the mom absolutely 100% nervously crosses the street when she sees a black guy
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"I immediately prepared to" is almost as bad as "I sighed as I drew my katana" in lovely STDH stories
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hogmartin posted:Can confirm. My dad has labels on the remote controls on the living room coffee table, TV, DVD, TUNER, stuff like that. The remotes are all from different companies and none looks like another, plus he's had them all for like ten years. It's about as necessary as labelling OVEN and REFRIGERATOR and FREEZER so you don't confuse them. Labelling things is just some kind of dad biological imperative. 
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Is this a meta joke on the lovely politoons that have to label their boogeymen because they are unable to have you understand them otherwise? 
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Fathis Munk posted:Is this a meta joke on the lovely politoons that have to label their boogeymen because they are unable to have you understand them otherwise?  The name was needed because otherwise readers might mistake him for one of the other major civil rights leaders of the time with that appearance.
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Dejawesp posted:
Lol the real stdh is that scene of carnage and white genocide behind them
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