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Yer Burnt posted:Since this is where Planet Earth II chat goes, here is Hans Zimmer previewing his Coachella gig: This is good poo poo.
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I like Santa Clarita Diet. It's pretty light-hearted and reminds me of the early seasons of Weeds but better. Plus I like Drew Berrymore and Timothy Olyphant.
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Feb 16, 2017 02:57
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Looten Plunder posted:What are these bad Netlix shows? Whilst not everything is amazing, I'd recommend pretty much everything I've watched. I don't know, that's kind of the problem. What percentage of the avalanche of netflix originals have you actually watched is the better question?
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Feb 16, 2017 02:59
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As Netlix starts to tip the percentages more into being an original content provider vs a licensed content provider it's inevitable that there will be a healthy amount of misfires. It's just the law of averages. Not everything is going to be good.
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Feb 16, 2017 03:10
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Looten Plunder posted:What the gently caress was that finale of Santa Clarita Diet? Yeah, it was a terrible brick wall of an ending. It was like what you do for a mid-season hiatus. Looten Plunder posted:What are these bad Netlix shows? Whilst not everything is amazing, I'd recommend pretty much everything I've watched. There's at least a couple of Adam Sandler movies that have been Netflix exclusive, but if you mean strictly shows, my kids have watched a couple pretty awful series adaptations of Dreamworks movies that are on there. raditts fucked around with this message at 03:14 on Feb 16, 2017 |
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Feb 16, 2017 03:11
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IRQ posted:What percentage of the avalanche of netflix originals have you actually watched is the better question? Just checked Wikipidia and there are 34 shows listed under the Drama, Comedy and Adult Animation categories. I've seen 19 of them. The only things I wouldn't recommend would be Marco Polo and Sense8 and even they aren't terrible. That's nearly a 90% hit rate for recommendations. I haven't seen: Hemlock Grove Bloodline Gilmore Girls: A Year in the Life The OA Grace and Frankie W/ Bob & David Fuller House Flaked Netflix Presents: The Characters The Ranch Easy Haters Back Off Trailer Park Boys Out of the Park: Europe One Day at a Time F Is for Family
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Feb 16, 2017 03:15
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I've seen the first season of Hemlock Grove. It's very bad. It's interesting, but bad.
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Feb 16, 2017 03:18
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Yer Burnt posted:Since this is where Planet Earth II chat goes, here is Hans Zimmer previewing his Coachella gig: I want more!
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Feb 16, 2017 03:19
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Snak posted:I've seen the first season of Hemlock Grove. It's very bad. It's interesting, but bad. This is all you need to know about Hemlock Grove. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSzYGcPs_bo
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Feb 16, 2017 03:20
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Oh yeah, Gilmore Girls was pretty bad. I don't think it really fits into the shovelware category though.
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Feb 16, 2017 03:35
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Looten Plunder posted:Just checked Wikipidia and there are 34 shows listed under the Drama, Comedy and Adult Animation categories. I've seen 19 of them. The only things I wouldn't recommend would be Marco Polo and Sense8 and even they aren't terrible. That's nearly a 90% hit rate for recommendations. Good news! Only w/ Bob and David and Easy are really worth watching out of those.
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Feb 16, 2017 03:38
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I watched 40 minutes of Bob/David and didn't laugh once
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Feb 16, 2017 03:51
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I really enjoyed the first season of Bloodline when I finally watched it. Still haven't gotten to season two.
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X-O posted:As Netlix starts to tip the percentages more into being an original content provider vs a licensed content provider it's inevitable that there will be a healthy amount of misfires. It's just the law of averages. Not everything is going to be good. Aren't half of those "Netflix Originals" just non-US shows carried on Netflix because they're not on US cable?
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I think it's not even that Netflix is destined to make some bad shows eventually, it's just that some shows are made for people with different taste than the average close television watcher. Fuller House is a great example of that, as is The Ranch. I think both are straight garbage, but my coworker who watched Full House growing up loves Fuller House, and my coworker who loves Chuck Lorre shows likes The Ranch. Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt, Bojack Horseman Stanger Things, and Jessica Jones are very much my poo poo, but I haven't made it more than a few episodes into OitNB, Daredevil, or Luke Cage. All of those shows are critical darlings. Tastes are subjective and Netflix knows it. Sure, they have a few misfires (Hemlock Grove) but I think you'd be hard pressed to find a Netflix show that doesn't work for, at least, the incredibly specific demographic Netflix intended it for. [Edit: can CBS please give up the ghost on making that new Star Trek show that's destined for failure and let Netflix have the rights instead? I need a new space opera show and I don't think Lost In Space is gonna scratch that itch] asecondduck fucked around with this message at 04:02 on Feb 16, 2017 |
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Feb 16, 2017 03:58
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BJPaskoff posted:Aren't half of those "Netflix Originals" just non-US shows carried on Netflix because they're not on US cable? Some of them are just licensed series that were originally made for other networks around the globe and some of them are actual full on co-productions like Travelers, and those for all intents and purposes are still Netflix Originals.
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Feb 16, 2017 04:15
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I tried watching Easy but after finishing the 4th episode I was just put off by it.
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Feb 16, 2017 04:29
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I've only seen the three aired MCU series, Narcos, the first Season of Hemlock Grove, Sense8, and Stranger Things...and two episodes of The OA before I said gently caress this.
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Feb 16, 2017 05:41
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X-O posted:As Netlix starts to tip the percentages more into being an original content provider vs a licensed content provider it's inevitable that there will be a healthy amount of misfires. It's just the law of averages. Not everything is going to be good. Also, Netflix is trying to produce content for, it seems like, every conceivable niche. Some of those niches encompass people with very lousy taste in television. And some of those shows that are agreed to be "bad" are judged so by people who are in no way the show's target audience, like how people savaged Fuller House. I think their just greenlighting whole shows thing is inadvisable compared to Amazon's cool "pilot season" approach, though.
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Feb 16, 2017 06:00
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I actually hate Amazon's pilot thing. Just make a drat decision and go through with it. It worked for Goliath.
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Spatula City posted:
Keep in mind that Netflix is licensing content for exclusive first run distribution in a market. Amazon is actually producing content. So, their approaches should be different. Netflix is often times competing with other networks for shows so the full season grant is their linchpin to win the bid if it's close. As long as their hit ratio is high enough that they don't lose subscribers, it's a good approach. So what if they get a flop? If it didn't drive anyone away, it wasn't harmful. It's in Netflix's best interest to have content coming out continuously since their subscription model is month to month. As long as the next thing you are looking forward to is no more than 1-2 months away, you will keep your sub. Amazon has a more captive audience. The buy in is usually annual and has other perks that keep people around. So, they don't have to be as frantic with their release schedule and are more measured where they spend their money.
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BJPaskoff posted:Aren't half of those "Netflix Originals" just non-US shows carried on Netflix because they're not on US cable?
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Again, aside from a handful of instances, netflix doesn't produce any content. The Marvel shows are produced by Marvel TV and ABC Studios. Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt is Universal. A Series of Unfortunate Events is Paramount TV. The Man in the High Castle is Amazon Studios. Mozart in the Jungle is Amazon Studios. Red Oaks is Amazon Studios. There's a distinct difference. In Netflix's case, someone else is funding the production of the show. Now, they are funding the production of the show with the understanding that Netflix's licensing deal will cover those costs, but Netflix is not directly creating content. In Amazon's case, they a primary source of funds for production. Now, this may sound like a trivial difference, but it can have some effects. For example, Amazon has more direct control over the budget of a show while Netflix doesn't necessarily get to have any say how much of the money they spent on licensing the show is actually used to make it. Netflix: "I like your idea. Let me see more of it and if I like what I see I will want more of the thing you made and I'll pay you x dollars for y episodes for exclusive distribution rights." Amazon: "I like your idea. Let's make something to show off to people. If they want to see more, we'll make more." bull3964 fucked around with this message at 06:51 on Feb 16, 2017 |
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Feb 16, 2017 06:45
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From what I've read, Netflix pays upfront actually.
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Mu Zeta posted:I actually hate Amazon's pilot thing. Just make a drat decision and go through with it. It worked for Goliath. The real alternative is make pilots and don't show them at all and don't let subscribers have any input on what gets picked up. Lycus fucked around with this message at 07:17 on Feb 16, 2017 |
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Aphrodite posted:From what I've read, Netflix pays upfront actually. Yes, in many cases they pay upfront (one of the reasons why they win bids for shows). However, they still aren't directly funding the shows. With Amazon, they have a budget for their show and that's the money that's spent on the show. With Netflix, they pay ABC upfront for a new season of Daredevil. ABC then decides how much of that money is used on ninjas and how much of it is used on craft services for executive staff. Of course, if that relationship gets too out of whack and Netflix isn't happy with the product because of cut corners, that may cause them not to fund further seasons. It also insulates netflix to a certain extent against things like budget overruns. If the special effects house used to make those ninja outfits that special shade of black goes bankrupt and doesn't finish the work on budget, that's ABC's problem to deal with and not Netflix. Now, ABC may ask netflix for more money next season to ensure those ninjas are portrayed to the correct level of stealthiness, but there's a negotiation that happens there. Netflix is much closer to a regular network than Amazon. They just have a more frantic release schedule.
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X-O posted:I really enjoyed the first season of Bloodline when I finally watched it. Still haven't gotten to season two. Season 2 is even better.
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The Ranch would be in my list of 10 worst shows of all time. I only watched 2 episodes but they were really horrible episodes. Hemlock Grove was okay. I didn't know it was a vampire/werewolf show or I wouldn't have watched it. I remember a lot of nudity.
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Mu Zeta posted:I actually hate Amazon's pilot thing. Just make a drat decision and go through with it. This is the most easily solved problem in the world. Just don't watch the pilots but only the greenlit seasons. No point in whining about something you can easily pretend just doesn't exist. Personally I love Amazon's approach, because it's exciting and gives us a look at some pilots that may not go to series but that we otherwise probably would never have been given acces to at all.
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But some of them look interesting and gets my hopes up. The Zombieland thing was so terrible though.
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Gaunab posted:I tried watching Easy but after finishing the 4th episode I was just put off by it. Is that the Spanish one? Cause yeah, that one isn't great. My two favourite eps are 5/6, though.
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Feb 16, 2017 08:52
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No it's the romance anthology series about millenials.
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Feb 16, 2017 08:55
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Yeah but episode 4 is in Spanish
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i only saw the first episode does it stay good?
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If you liked that one, you should enjoy most of the rest, I would think. 3/4/8 are the ones I'm less into, I would say.
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lelandjs posted:I need a new space opera show and I don't think Lost In Space is gonna scratch that itch Surely, you've watched/are watching The Expanse? Harder than just regular space opera for sure, but it's definitely scratched the itch for me.
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lelandjs posted:[Edit: can CBS please give up the ghost on making that new Star Trek show that's destined for failure and let Netflix have the rights instead? I need a new space opera show and I don't think Lost In Space is gonna scratch that itch] Interesting. The LiS cast looks a million times better than the ST one, and it's supposed to have a huge budget as well. The producers don't have a great record, but without Bryan Fuller you could say the same for Trek's producers.
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Escobarbarian posted:Is that the Spanish one? Cause yeah, that one isn't great. My two favourite eps are 5/6, though. Yeah that's the one. It felt like some story you'd find on and MRA subreddit.
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Norwegian Rudo posted:Interesting. The LiS cast looks a million times better than the ST one, and it's supposed to have a huge budget as well. The producers don't have a great record, but without Bryan Fuller you could say the same for Trek's producers. Oh I meant they should scrap Discovery entirely and start a new show from scratch.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRNyI6c6GUU Time is cruel guys
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