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I'm OK with star gays but I feel like in a hundred years it'll probably just be another whatever who gives a poo poo thing considering apparently Chakotay had sex as a cyber lady and nobody cared. and yet they're gonna portray it as SCANDALOUS AND IN YOUR FACE I'm sure. They should make up some new sexuality only possible with future tech and have someone be that. Like, in the expanse there's gay people and nobody mentions it or even notices it as anything out of the ordinary, which is in a way a hell of a lot more progressive than the overly hyped Gay Sulu from Beyond
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I can't believe Ensign Shandojang is a holosexual
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Feb 16, 2017 04:34
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I feel like the way to have a gay character is to have a character who is gay. Like season 3 that character is in the background with their partner in some scene and "oh yeah they're gay" like, focus on every other aspect of that character as a real human (HOO-MON) being. And not make them KEVIN THE SPACE GAY WHO HAS ONE PERSONALITY TRAIT. But what do I know I'm a dorky straight guy
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Feb 16, 2017 04:54
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Is there any (non visual shorthand) reason why every changeling looks like Odo's clayman impersonation of a humanoid? I'd like to think they would have had the practice to not look like crap after the bazillion years they've lived or whatever.
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Feb 16, 2017 04:54
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Kalsco posted:Is there any (non visual shorthand) reason why every changeling looks like Odo's clayman impersonation of a humanoid? I'd like to think they would have had the practice to not look like crap after the bazillion years they've lived or whatever. Lady Founder does it to make Odo feel more comfortable. I dunno why she does it all the drat time though. Edit: Does Lady Founder have a name?
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Feb 16, 2017 05:00
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Kalsco posted:Is there any (non visual shorthand) reason why every changeling looks like Odo's clayman impersonation of a humanoid? I'd like to think they would have had the practice to not look like crap after the bazillion years they've lived or whatever. Dr. Mora's hairstyle choices spread across all quadrants. The man knew personal grooming.
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Feb 16, 2017 05:01
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I just had a vision of "the gay" wearing counselor Troy's purple jumpsuit for some reason (it's because I'm a bad person)
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Feb 16, 2017 05:04
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Kalsco posted:Is there any (non visual shorthand) reason why every changeling looks like Odo's clayman impersonation of a humanoid? I'd like to think they would have had the practice to not look like crap after the bazillion years they've lived or whatever. My interpretation was that it's less effort to only form the clay face, so that's as far as they go unless they have to impersonate someone. Real reason: to not confuse the audience.
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Feb 16, 2017 05:05
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naem posted:I just had a vision of "the gay" wearing counselor Troy's purple jumpsuit for some reason (it's because I'm a bad person) Ensign Ru Paulen reporting for duty
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Feb 16, 2017 05:11
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naem posted:I feel like the way to have a gay character is to have a character who is gay. Like season 3 that character is in the background with their partner in some scene and "oh yeah they're gay" like, focus on every other aspect of that character as a real human (HOO-MON) being. And not make them KEVIN THE SPACE GAY WHO HAS ONE PERSONALITY TRAIT. Oh, so exactly like Battlestar Galactica did.
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Feb 16, 2017 05:14
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corn in the bible posted:Ensign Ru Paulen reporting for duty That is the other thing to make not hate bajorans.
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Feb 16, 2017 05:19
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crew gay, so what
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Feb 16, 2017 05:27
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At starfleet academy a gay wrote a very unflattering paper on me. Now his all-gay starship is challenging me to a game of baseball!!!!
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Feb 16, 2017 05:29
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corn in the bible posted:Ensign Ru Paulen reporting for duty Ro Laren, from TNG? Thing I just learned from googling that: Memory Alpha posted:During the production of Star Trek: Deep Space Nine, it was intended that Ro Laren be the first officer of Deep Space 9's under Benjamin Sisko command. Michelle Forbes turned down the offer and the character was modified and became the basis for Kira Nerys.
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Feb 16, 2017 05:30
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Kira was a way more likeable and interesting character than Ro, I'm glad.
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Feb 16, 2017 05:32
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Ro was never presented as command material. That would have made no sense at all.
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Kalsco posted:Is there any (non visual shorthand) reason why every changeling looks like Odo's clayman impersonation of a humanoid? I'd like to think they would have had the practice to not look like crap after the bazillion years they've lived or whatever. The only changelings we see take on the form to either make Odo more comfortable or to impersonate him, like in the Adversary. The one exception to this rule is Laas, who while similar, based his appearance off of another species than Bajoran. 
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Feb 16, 2017 05:35
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It's amazing to see the impossibly likable Martok playing such a horribly unlikable character.
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Feb 16, 2017 05:39
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Martok has the best elocution. I like the episode where Nog butts heads with him. We will decide when it is time to leave.
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corn in the bible posted:I can't believe Ensign Shandojang is a holosexual An anime lover's dream come true. Literally.
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Baronjutter posted:At starfleet academy a gay wrote a very unflattering paper on me. Now his all-gay starship is challenging me to a game of baseball!!!! More like gayseball am I right
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The General posted:Ro was never presented as command material. That would have made no sense at all. Plus having a non-star fleet bajoran as 2nd in command makes much more sense considering what Sisko went there to accomplish.
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Feb 16, 2017 06:42
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Just watched RLM's review of Generations and it has some great cast interview excerpts that make it exceptionally clear that everyone involved knew the movie was garbage.octobernight posted:My girlfriend never saw any of the Star Trek series or older movies, but she absolutely loves the new movies. She watched Star Trek Beyond 3 times in 2 days. I've only watched NG and DS9, but not all of it. I finally convinced her to give DS9 a shot, and we watched the first two episodes last night. It was surprisingly good. I vaguely recall early DS9 as average, but they did a great job with the characters, including the super dorky Bashir. Even my girlfriend was interested, and she usually hates most media outside of the new Star Trek movies. It'll be fun to see how much she gets into DS9 once they get into the Dominion Arcs. I've met a few people who think Dukat is pretty hot even with the makeup. But Bajoran Dukat is the real Hot Dukat. Sten Freak posted:Overall I still think DS9 is a hard show to get into off the bat. I know some people like it after just a couple episodes but it took a few for us to be hooked in and that was with the knowledge that the show as a whole turned out to be great. It has the strongest start of any Star Trek series excepting TOS. TNG, Voyager, and Enterprise had unwatchably bad first seasons and it took TNG and Enterprise two years to find their feet. Voyager never really did. Since DS9 is as good as early to mid-run TNG from the beginning it's called a "good start." Let us English fucked around with this message at 06:51 on Feb 16, 2017 |
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Feb 16, 2017 06:45
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Neddy Seagoon posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLp_HJl-0nI Garak is like a top 3 Star Trek character. He's wonderful and deep and complex. I still remember watching the episode when he goes berserk and starts taking people down on the other DS9 when it first aired and just loving it. I wish they hadn't stopped him from being "interested" in Bashir but LOL we can't have any queers in Star Trek son.
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Alan_Shore posted:Garak is like a top 3 Star Trek character. He's wonderful and deep and complex. I still remember watching the episode when he goes berserk and starts taking people down on the other DS9 when it first aired and just loving it. I wish they hadn't stopped him from being "interested" in Bashir but LOL we can't have any queers in Star Trek son. Part of it is apparently Andrew Robinson started writing in-character diaries for Garak to help get in the right mindset for the role, and the writers started using them to form Garak's development in the show.
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Feb 16, 2017 07:45
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I tried reading that thing by Ron Moore about Voyager last night and that poo poo was just frustrating as gently caress.
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Feb 16, 2017 07:47
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Chakotay sneaks out of the house to go to the Kazon Pi Ogla frat party and gets date raped by Seska.
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Feb 16, 2017 07:52
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I joined the Miles High Club and now I can't care less why this old dude thinks Janeway is his daughter.
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Feb 16, 2017 08:06
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the real question is, how do you think they'll shoehorn brent spiner into the new tv show
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Course: Oblivion; Voyager's fancy new Enhanced Warp Drive is causing the ship to fall apart at the molecular level except, whoops, it's actually replicant Voyager from the Demon Planet. I actually like this one, but the ending is a wet fart that could've been overcome by leaving a probe or something that wasn't a silver-blood duplicate for the real Voyager to find instead of "What's this weird silver cloud? Nevermind, let's just keep on going".
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Course: Oblivion; The ending might not have been so bad if Voyager didn't always hit the reset button every episode. Like in a good show, it would have been a cruel twist of an ending.
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Part of it is apparently Andrew Robinson started writing in-character diaries for Garak to help get in the right mindset for the role, and the writers started using them to form Garak's development in the show. That's so cool. It's amazing how the best shows have an open dialogue with everyone on the crew and anyone can submit an idea. The writers on TNG were NOT allowed to go on set and talk to the actors. What the hell! The actors ARE the characters, they just might have some good ideas and insights into the character, maybe? Especially with the acting talent on Star Trek.
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Feb 16, 2017 08:25
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Ugh, now it's the robot from the Queen album cover, guest starring on Voyage.
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Meredith Baxter-Burnout posted:The ending might not have been so bad if Voyager didn't always hit the reset button every episode. Like in a good show, it would have been a cruel twist of an ending. An actual time capsule ending would've been a much better ending, especially when they set up the chekov's gun of non-Voyager items being unaffected. "We found this probe/device a few days/months ago, let's use it to store our logs and poo poo!" Aside from the whole "How do we stop passing on that super-cool Enhanced Warp Drive to the real crew" thing.
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Neddy Seagoon posted:An actual time capsule ending would've been a much better ending, especially when they set up the chekov's gun of non-Voyager items being unaffected. "We found this probe/device a few days/months ago, let's use it to store our logs and poo poo!" They try to duplicate it but BLT can't compensate for the capacitive quantum flux frequency variations no matter how much she rotates the tachyon particle array. They cut 10 years off their trip but never try it again.
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Meredith Baxter-Burnout posted:They try to duplicate it but BLT can't compensate for the capacitive quantum flux frequency variations no matter how much she rotates the tachyon particle array. Come to think of it, I think by season 5 they're down to being about 30 years at most from reaching Earth. Which is still pretty drat far, but all that intrigue and concern about eventually becoming a generational ship are just a straight non-issue at that point.
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Gonna try to watch some voyager tonight. its 1154 and I need to sleep. I'm banking on voyager putting me down my midnight. Wish me luck.
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Alan_Shore posted:That's so cool. It's amazing how the best shows have an open dialogue with everyone on the crew and anyone can submit an idea. The writers on TNG were NOT allowed to go on set and talk to the actors. What the hell! The actors ARE the characters, they just might have some good ideas and insights into the character, maybe? Especially with the acting talent on Star Trek. Are you sure that was a TNG thing? Or did it get more lax as the series went on? I seem to remember Sirtis saying the writers kept asking her what she wanted her character to do, and she regretted never having an answer, as Troi never had anything to do.
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Oh poo poo guys, it just happened to me.
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