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The General posted:Are you sure that was a TNG thing? Or did it get more lax as the series went on? I seem to remember Sirtis saying the writers kept asking her what she wanted her character to do, and she regretted never having an answer, as Troi never had anything to do. I recently finished the 50 Year Mission book and lots of TNG writers talked about how the bosses didn't want you going to set. It was a split thing, one guy was in charge of editorial, one guy (I think Berman) was in charge of production, and never the two shall meet. One writer said he went down to set and nothing happened to him, but it was discouraged. Very odd way of working.
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Everything I knew about trek I learned from Mission Hill, I'm surprised to learn from this thread that people actually like voyager
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Meredith Baxter-Burnout posted:Oh poo poo guys, it just happened to me. My goondolences.
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Threshold is fun. Freaky makeup, crazy-rear end B-movie concept, uncharacteristically big acting (for Voyager), and the weirdest-rear end WTF Star Trek climax of all time. I'll take it any day over, I dunno, something about Borg children.
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I'm not gonna lie, when Voyager first aired, I thought that gangways Janeway's line about females initiating mating was clever. I was like 13.
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Tuvok with emotions sounds like an angry Barack Obama. Also, this episode is really heavy handed but still a good death penalty debate story.
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Meredith Baxter-Burnout posted:Tuvok with emotions sounds like an angry Barack Obama. Tim Russ is a surprisingly good actor when actually allowed to emote. No wonder they gave him the emotionless role of Tuvok  .
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When I covertly contact the Kazon I do it in the dark with a bright red light flashing the whole time.
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Tim Russ is a surprisingly good actor when actually allowed to emote. No wonder they gave him the emotionless role of Tuvok Tum Russ as Tom Paris would have been great if you swap Tom Paris in as Tuvok.
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Feb 16, 2017 12:11
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The laptop screens in Voyager are stupid thick. The worst part is that they're loving props. They could have made them paper thin if they'd wanted to.
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Meredith Baxter-Burnout posted:The laptop screens in Voyager are stupid thick. The worst part is that they're loving props. They could have made them paper thin if they'd wanted to. They were like that in TNG too, it's just a continuation of technology from a time when LCD's weren't really a thing. Even the PaDD's seem to be barely able to do more than text and a photo.
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Those PADD's were perfect for Riker to capture a few candid vag snaps whenever he bedded his next flavor of the week.
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Neddy Seagoon posted:They were like that in TNG too, it's just a continuation of technology from a time when LCD's weren't really a thing. Even the PaDD's seem to be barely able to do more than text and a photo. 
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Feb 16, 2017 12:57
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I don't even want STD because I have the Expanse and it's GOOD science fiction.
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corn in the bible posted:the real question is, how do you think they'll shoehorn brent spiner into the new tv show And he trips over something, bringing down part of the set and dropping character. The episode then becomes season 3 of Fresh Hell.
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corn in the bible posted:the real question is, how do you think they'll shoehorn brent spiner into the new tv show fungus guy is scraping fungi out of a cave under San Francisco when he finds Data's head they boot up the head, take it on an adventure and Data's head helps save the universe then they wipe all his memories of it and put his head back in the cave Directed by Jonathan Frakes
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FuturePastNow posted:fungus guy is scraping fungi out of a cave under San Francisco when he finds Data's head Realtalk, Brent Spiner has actually gone on record to say he'd never reprise the role of Data because he's always felt Data should look perpetually young and handsome.
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This is my favourite thing about PADDs. They have a whole bunch of them scattered around when they're working. It's probably the most realistic thing Trek got right about Future Tech. Tablets are okay for consumption if you have one, but for research and referencing, you're gonna need a handful of them. Once you can get 5 decent tablets for a cheap price, then PDFs will realize their full potential.
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The General posted:This is my favourite thing about PADDs. They have a whole bunch of them scattered around when they're working. It's probably the most realistic thing Trek got right about Future Tech. Tablets are okay for consumption if you have one, but for research and referencing, you're gonna need a handful of them. Once you can get 5 decent tablets for a cheap price, then PDFs will realize their full potential. I actually reckon that kind of use will get side-stepped for cheap VR derived from current phone-level portable tech like the GearVR or just cheaper desktop VR as time goes on and budget-tier PC parts catch up. Just sit in a nice private 'room' with as many screens as you like. Or even handheld books/tablets with some haptic gloves/controls and go full 80's/90's cyberpunk.
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FuturePastNow posted:fungus guy Weekly crucial fungal-pivotal plot elements.
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Realtalk, Brent Spiner has actually gone on record to say he'd never reprise the role of Data because he's always felt Data should look perpetually young and handsome. we've found a new android, which for some reason looks like an aging brent spiner
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There's totally going to be an episode where the crew get mind controlled by some fungus after inhaling some spores isn't there.
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Their first fungus episode for ST:D is going to be a DS9 "Trials and Tribble-ations"-style flash forward into the background of TNG as their second episode Gotta get the bulk of people to make the move off CBS and over to $6 Onlnie CBS and its going to take the lure of Picard, Data and a good amount of fungus to do it.
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The General posted:This is my favourite thing about PADDs. They have a whole bunch of them scattered around when they're working. It's probably the most realistic thing Trek got right about Future Tech. Tablets are okay for consumption if you have one, but for research and referencing, you're gonna need a handful of them. Once you can get 5 decent tablets for a cheap price, then PDFs will realize their full potential. Yep. PADDs are basically free and almost indestructible, so everyone's desk is covered in them. Sure, they have the processing and storage power to consolidate it all into one device, but it's easier to organize and compartmentalize when you can have science data PADDs to pass around to colleagues, an encrypted PADD for Starfleet data, etc all separate. Why add another folder to an existing device when you can just replicate a new one?
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Alan_Shore posted:I recently finished the 50 Year Mission book and lots of TNG writers talked about how the bosses didn't want you going to set. It was a split thing, one guy was in charge of editorial, one guy (I think Berman) was in charge of production, and never the two shall meet. One writer said he went down to set and nothing happened to him, but it was discouraged. Very odd way of working. I didn't finish those books yet, but in the TOS part it detailed how lovely it was having the actors, mainly shatner, keep going to the writers and having them change poo poo. Maybe it was an attempt to avoid that happening again?
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Part of it is apparently Andrew Robinson started writing in-character diaries for Garak to help get in the right mindset for the role, and the writers started using them to form Garak's development in the show. He also had trouble letting go of the character when the show ended, which resulted in him writing an entire novel to 'get him out of his system.' So if you want to read Garak's epilogue, as written by Garak, check out A Stitch in Time (ISBN: 0671038850).
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Gonna read that as soon as I save up the $149.99+shipping for a used paperback copy.
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FuturePastNow posted:Yep. PADDs are basically free and almost indestructible, so everyone's desk is covered in them. Sure, they have the processing and storage power to consolidate it all into one device, but it's easier to organize and compartmentalize when you can have science data PADDs to pass around to colleagues, an encrypted PADD for Starfleet data, etc all separate. Why add another folder to an existing device when you can just replicate a new one? This is like someone in 1950 explaining why people on a television show set in the future have a separate computer for each "infomator" they display on their robot boxes. "It makes sense. How are you going to be going back and forth to all that information? You need a way to remember whats on the first "infomator" before you go on to the second. What if you need to consult a third? How about a fifth? Then you need the first again. robot boxes will be so cheap you'll just have one for each task. Whole rooms full of robot boxes. One dedicated specifically to addition and subtraction! One dedicated specifically to AM Radio! One specifically to make telephone calls! Think how efficient it'll be! Ten robot boxes will let you do ten different things! Twenty if in the future we can manage to fit twenty in a room we would double our efficiency and probably dedicate them to tasks we can only dream of, like multiplication.....or fractions. Think of it sue. A dedicated fraction robot box." Space Crabs fucked around with this message at 16:15 on Feb 16, 2017 |
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shadow puppet of a posted:Gonna read that as soon as I save up the $149.99+shipping for a used paperback copy. I got it from thriftbooks.com for like $20
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The Garak book is 9 bucks in Kindle but I hear it's full of crazy typos for some reason
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Space Crabs posted:This is like someone in 1950 explaining why people on a television show set in the future have a separate computer for each "infomator" they display on their robot boxes. I find it really fascinating just how fast we've eclipsed most of the more 'grounded' Star Trek tech already. We have PaDD equivalents of various sizes that can do a shitload more than just take logs and display static images, nevermind touchscreens in general, and Assistant AI's have pretty much got a Starfleet computer beat cold for verbal interface. Even beating their fancy little strips of storage media with things the size of your pinkie finger's nail.
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Neddy Seagoon posted:I find it really fascinating just how fast we've eclipsed most of the more 'grounded' Star Trek tech already. We have PaDD equivalents of various sizes that can do a shitload more than just take logs and display static images, nevermind touchscreens in general, and Assistant AI's have pretty much got a Starfleet computer beat cold for verbal interface. Even beating their fancy little strips of storage media with things the size of your pinkie finger's nail. Alexa create a post-human holomonstrosity for my amusement sexual and other wise, make him smarter than this genius robot! Didn't do anything...
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Neddy Seagoon posted:I find it really fascinating just how fast we've eclipsed most of the more 'grounded' Star Trek tech already. We have PaDD equivalents of various sizes that can do a shitload more than just take logs and display static images, nevermind touchscreens in general, and Assistant AI's have pretty much got a Starfleet computer beat cold for verbal interface. Even beating their fancy little strips of storage media with things the size of your pinkie finger's nail. The one thing we haven't managed to do is create an aviation control scheme that with two button presses pulls up the H.M.S. Pinafore. I'm at least a few clicks from H.M.S. Pinafore at most times. Never two.
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Neddy Seagoon posted:I find it really fascinating just how fast we've eclipsed most of the more 'grounded' Star Trek tech already. We have PaDD equivalents of various sizes that can do a shitload more than just take logs and display static images, nevermind touchscreens in general, and Assistant AI's have pretty much got a Starfleet computer beat cold for verbal interface. Even beating their fancy little strips of storage media with things the size of your pinkie finger's nail. I'm so sick of *comm badge bleep* "Captain come down here, you've got to see this!" "Ok Chief, I'm on my way!" *leaves immediately to journey on foot across a galaxy-class ship* Wouldn't it be nice to dispense with those old standbys and be jumpsuit-trekky as gently caress but also get out from under the heap of Roddenberry's understanding of inter-office communications circa 1960 where the paper memos arrive in your inbox but on PADDs instead? Give everyone an invisible Jem'Hadar ship's eye-display to make data communication instant and constant, to along with their invisible universal translator, and get on with the crazy sci-fi and morality plays.
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Space Crabs posted:
This modern life is a nightmare indeed
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shadow puppet of a posted:This is why it pains me to hell that STD is set in the pre-Kirk past. I wish we could see a stat trek written with modern tech direction and communication methods. Calling for security was always funny. 90% of the time the problem is already over when Worf runs in with some random guy 5 minutes later. The other 10% of the time he can't handle the problem.
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Space Crabs posted:The one thing we haven't managed to do is create an aviation control scheme that with two button presses pulls up the H.M.S. Pinafore. It was a contextual menu based on listening to what he was saying, like an always-on Siri without the 20 second lag. He pressed button #1 "Recent Mentions" then button #2 the little LCARS play button beside "Gilbert and Sullivan, Greatest Hits" gently caress, please don't banish me to the TVIV thread for getting cranky about this.
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MA-Horus posted:I don't even want STD because I have the Expanse and it's GOOD science fiction. Nobody wants STD, but you're getting STD one way or another. That's how
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Space Crabs posted:The one thing we haven't managed to do is create an aviation control scheme that with two button presses pulls up the H.M.S. Pinafore. You have a Youtube bookmark in your browser for it, on a dashboard screen in the cockpit. One click for the web browser, two for the bookmark. Duh!  .shadow puppet of a posted:This is why it pains me to hell that STD is set in the pre-Kirk past. I wish we could see a stat trek written with modern tech direction and communication methods. One thing with Star Trek I've never minded is the way they're able to pull data out of just about anyone's computers, sight-unseen. Given how long Starfleet been at it and how many races they've encountered over several centuries, their computers being able to try to interface and call data from an alien system isn't too unreasonable if you think of it as running several billion permutations to force a working connection in every way it can until something connects.
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shadow puppet of a posted:It was a contextual menu based on listening to what he was saying, like an always-on Siri without the 20 second lag. He pressed button #1 "Recent Mentions" then button #2 the little LCARS play button beside "Gilbert and Sullivan, Greatest Hits" *Riker hits recent mentions* "rear end" "rear end Play" "rear end Bitch" "Asses" "Big Asses" "Huge Asses" "Giant Asses" "All Power to the rear end" "Asstopia" "Assville" "Asshaven" "Asshbury" "Asszilla" "Assssssssssssss" *frantic scrolling*
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