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Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

This took me a full minute to process. Jesus Christ.

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Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

Rhyno posted:

This took me a full minute to process. Jesus Christ.

That's a good 30 seconds longer than it took to install.

TotalLossBrain
Oct 20, 2010

Hier graben!
lol goddamn. Class III hitch, yessir!

Edit: content!




https://kpr.craigslist.org/cto/6005449791.html

TotalLossBrain fucked around with this message at 07:25 on Feb 16, 2017

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin

They're just taking the piss at that point, aren't they? Surely they just don't want to have their car damaged in a low-speed rear end collision.

Surely.

spog
Aug 7, 2004

It's your own bloody fault.

Rhyno posted:

This took me a full minute to process. Jesus Christ.

me too: I scanned it from right to left, trying to work out what was wrong with the towballs, or the horizontal linkage. The big problem hit me far too late.

Literally Lewis Hamilton
Feb 22, 2005



TotalLossBrain posted:

lol goddamn. Class III hitch, yessir!

Edit: content!




https://kpr.craigslist.org/cto/6005449791.html

I can't hate this. It reminds me of the guy who lifted his Golf TDI.

Colostomy Bag
Jan 11, 2016

:lesnick: C-Bangin' it :lesnick:

1500quidporsche posted:

I'll never understand what on earth possessed GM to think having another go at aluminum block cast​ iron head was a good idea. The whole Cadillac division really was a loving mess by the 80s. I mean really who the gently caress thought the belt straps on the Seville trunk was a good idea in 1980?

What engine are you referring to? The only one on the top of my head around that time was the Vega where poo poo would basically fall off the engine.

And I hope none of you had the mispleasure of owning a Northstar.

F1DriverQuidenBerg
Jan 19, 2014

The 4100 HT engine that followed the 8-6-4 was the same aluminum block, iron head type design. So yeah, just imagine what sort of drugs were being done that led to that line of thinking.

Colostomy Bag
Jan 11, 2016

:lesnick: C-Bangin' it :lesnick:

1500quidporsche posted:

The 4100 HT engine that followed the 8-6-4 was the same aluminum block, iron head type design. So yeah, just imagine what sort of drugs were being done that led to that line of thinking.

Ah gotcha. Didn't realize the 8-6-4 was AL block.

It's funny now that as we go through some of this it's no wonder why imports ate their (and the other 2) lunch.

As for drugs, the Vega vertapak transportation method was probably thought up one night during some binge.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevrolet_Vega#Vertical_rail_transport

quote:

Although Lordstown Assembly had a purpose-built exit off of the Ohio Turnpike built to make shipment easier, the Vega was designed for vertical shipment, nose down. General Motors and Southern Pacific designed "Vert-A-Pac" rail cars to hold 30 Vegas each, compared with conventional tri-level autoracks which held 18. The Vega was fitted with four removable cast-steel sockets on the underside and had plastic spacers—removed at unloading—to protect engine and transmission mounts. The rail car ramp/doors were opened and closed via forklift.[42]

Vibration and low-speed crash tests ensured the cars would not shift or suffer damage in transit. The Vega was delivered topped with fluids, ready to drive to dealerships, so the engine was baffled to prevent oil entering the number one cylinder; the battery filler caps high on the rear edge of the casing prevented acid spills; a tube drained fuel from carburetor to vapor canister; and the windshield washer bottle stood at 45 degrees.[43]

And who was doing the drugs? Probably the beancounters thinking hey, we can save a few bucks on shipping. Of course not taking into the account of the engineering costs for this.

Colostomy Bag
Jan 11, 2016

:lesnick: C-Bangin' it :lesnick:

Powershift posted:

Tale as old as time, tune as old as song.

the SSR:
year 1 - 300hp 5.3, 4 speed automatic only. customers: this is trash, i'll buy something else instead
year 2 - 390hp 6.0, 6 speed stick. customers: yeah, whatever, i already bought something else.

Yep. Never did understand why they repeatedly released products sort of half-baked. Yeah, next year, instead of the 4L80E you can have the 6L80E. Obviously there is continuous improvement, but they had a habit of launching an entirely new product out the door with the notion of "just wait until next year" and telegraphing it to the masses.

WescottF1
Oct 21, 2000
Forums Veteran
When I got together with my wife she had a 1995 Cutlass Supreme with the 3.4 DOHC V6. Nice looking car and reasonably fast, but goddamn was that thing horrifically expensive to maintain/repair.

It finally poo poo the bed for good when the transmission locked up in 2003 with just under 65000 miles on it. The transmission shop took it off our hands for $3500 and we bought a Mazda6 that she drove for the next 13 years.

Cage
Jul 17, 2003
www.revivethedrive.org

WescottF1 posted:

When I got together with my wife she had a 1995 Cutlass Supreme with the 3.4 DOHC V6. Nice looking car and reasonably fast, but goddamn was that thing horrifically expensive to maintain/repair.

It finally poo poo the bed for good when the transmission locked up in 2003 with just under 65000 miles on it. The transmission shop took it off our hands for $3500 and we bought a Mazda6 that she drove for the next 13 years.
On the other hand, I had a 96 with the same engine and never had to do anything but brakes in the 3-4 years I had it. I regret backing it into a telephone pole and selling it.

Q_res
Oct 29, 2005

We're fucking built for this shit!

Colostomy Bag posted:

What engine are you referring to?
You could have read the post literally right above the one you quoted... :psyduck:

Also, the 368 (8-6-4) was not an aluminum block engine.

Git Mah Belt Son
Apr 26, 2003

Happy Happy Gators

Colostomy Bag posted:


And I hope none of you had the mispleasure of owning a Northstar.

I did. It was in my 96 Deville I bought for around $1500 in 2006. The thing drank oil and I had to replace head gaskets about 7k miles into ownership.

I've still never driven a more comfortable car than that though. It wasn't even remotely fun to drive except in a straight line, but man if driving a couch down a highway isn't great in its own right.

Git Mah Belt Son fucked around with this message at 01:21 on Feb 17, 2017

Queen_Combat
Jan 15, 2011
97 DeVille. Starter replacement.

Colostomy Bag
Jan 11, 2016

:lesnick: C-Bangin' it :lesnick:

Q_res posted:

You could have read the post literally right above the one you quoted... :psyduck:

Also, the 368 (8-6-4) was not an aluminum block engine.

Yeah, now that I went back I can see where I got confused.


Git Mah Belt Son posted:

I did. It was in my 96 Deville I bought for around $1500 in 2006. The thing drank oil and I had to replace head gaskets about 7k miles into ownership.

I've still never driven a more comfortable car than that though. It wasn't even remotely fun to drive except in a straight line, but man if driving a couch down a highway isn't great in its own right.

Nothing wrong with couch down the highway. Both my Northstars had the great head bolt/gasket issue.

Seat Safety Switch
May 27, 2008

MY RELIGION IS THE SMALL BLOCK V8 AND COMMANDMENTS ONE THROUGH TEN ARE NEVER LIFT.

Pillbug

Memento posted:

They're just taking the piss at that point, aren't they? Surely they just don't want to have their car damaged in a low-speed rear end collision.

Surely.

Did you not notice the witness marks on the topmost hitch ball? That poo poo's been towing.

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin

Seat Safety Switch posted:

Did you not notice the witness marks on the topmost hitch ball? That poo poo's been towing.

I'm allowing myself a moment of cognitive dissonance between "they've clearly been using it to tow things" and "no one would ever use it to tow it's just a bumper extension".

clam ache
Sep 6, 2009

Q_res posted:

80s GM had a deep and abiding love for loving things up out of the gate, and then killing them once they finally got around to fixing them because they couldn't fix the lousy reputation they'd built. The Fiero and Allante are the two best examples I can think of off the top of my head. They only died once they stopped sucking so utterly and completely.

Can't forget the Buick reatta and all of its terrible designs. Or any of the Cadillac motors that weren't rebranded SBC. Gm was trash in the late eighties early ninties. I mean how many years do your intake gaskets have to leak before you change the design or update the gasket.

Deteriorata
Feb 6, 2005

Memento posted:

I'm allowing myself a moment of cognitive dissonance between "they've clearly been using it to tow things" and "no one would ever use it to tow it's just a bumper extension".

I've seen those before. The balls are different sizes so they can tow a variety of trailers without as much hassle.

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin

Deteriorata posted:

I've seen those before. The balls are different sizes so they can tow a variety of trailers without as much hassle.

Sure but they were probably bolted to something other than the bumper bar

TotalLossBrain
Oct 20, 2010

Hier graben!

Memento posted:

Sure but they were probably bolted to something other than the bumper bar

Eh, some trucks came with a bumper that you could mount a hitch ball through. I've seen them mostly on Rangers and F-150's (which is what that looks like). It's rated for relatively small trailers, though - this guy shoe-horned a class-3 on there and I don't think the bumper can handle THAT.

Vanagoon
Jan 20, 2008


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clam ache posted:

Can't forget the Buick reatta and all of its terrible designs. Or any of the Cadillac motors that weren't rebranded SBC. Gm was trash in the late eighties early ninties. I mean how many years do your intake gaskets have to leak before you change the design or update the gasket.

I know the L82 version of the 3100 had the poo poo gaskets up until 1999 at least.

Jestery
Aug 2, 2016


Not a Dickman, just a shape

Vanagoon
Jan 20, 2008


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Some half height doors and a less goofy seating position and that thing would rule.

Jestery
Aug 2, 2016


Not a Dickman, just a shape

Vanagoon posted:

Some half height doors and a less goofy seating position and that thing would rule.

It was electric too

Vanagoon
Jan 20, 2008


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Obligatory
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQh56geU0X8

Shai-Hulud
Jul 10, 2008

But it feels so right!
Lipstick Apathy
I saw someone driving this while driving to work:



It was freezing and raining and he was dressed in full on outdoor jacket and woolly hat and looked miserable as gently caress.

Don't get me wrong. Those things have their uses but man would i buy a beater to drive in the winter if i had one of these things.

Oh yeah, doors cost 600€ extra. The doors do not include windows. Those are another 300€...

Oh hey forgot about that. It also does not have a heater...

Shai-Hulud fucked around with this message at 13:35 on Feb 17, 2017

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule



I would rather a Reliant Robin than that weird thing posted above. It's also terrible but at least I could play it off as an amatuer 'New Old Top Gear' stunt.

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.

Shai-Hulud posted:

I saw someone driving this while driving to work:



It was freezing and raining and he was dressed in full on outdoor jacket and woolly hat and looked miserable as gently caress.

Don't get me wrong. Those things have their uses but man would i buy a beater to drive in the winter if i had one of these things.

Oh yeah, doors cost 600€ extra. The doors do not include windows. Those are another 300€...

Oh hey forgot about that. It also does not have a heater...
Yeah, I can see them working as a replacement for a moped etc somewhere warm and sunny, but in somewhere like the UK, they're just not practical.

Humphreys posted:

I would rather a Reliant Robin than that weird thing posted above. It's also terrible but at least I could play it off as an amatuer 'New Old Top Gear' stunt.
The best thing about that segment is the totally accurate depiction of South Yorkshire.

Colostomy Bag
Jan 11, 2016

:lesnick: C-Bangin' it :lesnick:

Shai-Hulud posted:

I saw someone driving this while driving to work:



It was freezing and raining and he was dressed in full on outdoor jacket and woolly hat and looked miserable as gently caress.

Don't get me wrong. Those things have their uses but man would i buy a beater to drive in the winter if i had one of these things.

Oh yeah, doors cost 600€ extra. The doors do not include windows. Those are another 300€...

Oh hey forgot about that. It also does not have a heater...

It looks like two segways hosed a smart car.

Yerok
Jan 11, 2009

TotalLossBrain posted:

Eh, some trucks came with a bumper that you could mount a hitch ball through. I've seen them mostly on Rangers and F-150's (which is what that looks like). It's rated for relatively small trailers, though - this guy shoe-horned a class-3 on there and I don't think the bumper can handle THAT.

I don't think that guy's hitch setup is getting enough love. It looks like it's a 2 1/2 inch tube drop hitch with one of those god awful 2 inch multi hitch things slid inside of it. That's loving genius, and I would love to watch him rip his bumper off with that moment arm.

Computer viking
May 30, 2011
Now with less breakage.

Shai-Hulud posted:

I saw someone driving this while driving to work:



It was freezing and raining and he was dressed in full on outdoor jacket and woolly hat and looked miserable as gently caress.

Don't get me wrong. Those things have their uses but man would i buy a beater to drive in the winter if i had one of these things.

Oh yeah, doors cost 600€ extra. The doors do not include windows. Those are another 300€...

Oh hey forgot about that. It also does not have a heater...

Domino's uses them for deliveries around here.

Trambopaline
Jul 25, 2010

Shai-Hulud posted:

I saw someone driving this while driving to work:




https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BFcGm6NYayI

But on the other hand the rear wheel drive and weight distribution apparently means its quite the drifting toy. Though you'll burn through a full charge in ten minutes.

Still terrible but marginally less so.

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

So it has one seat, no doors or windows, 17 horsepower, and costs $9000.

Another "motorcycle for people who are too much of a pussy to ride a motorcycle" except in this case its power level is more like "scooter for people who won't even ride a scooter"

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

Anyone who did R/C cars on nicad batteries would be happy to get 10 minutes on a charge.

Falken
Jan 26, 2004

Do you feel like a hero yet?

Sagebrush posted:

So it has one seat, no doors or windows, 17 horsepower, and costs $9000.

Another "motorcycle for people who are too much of a pussy to ride a motorcycle" except in this case its power level is more like "scooter for people who won't even ride a scooter"
Thing is, in the event of a collision, what chance does the driver actually have?

Biscuit Joiner
May 18, 2008
Renault Twizy Crash Test

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qy-tf7EBCI

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

Front impact isn't so bad but oooooooog at that side hit.

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xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

That would be why B pillars are creeping so far forward.

If you're tall or fat it's like Jeremy Clarkson trying to get into a GT40.

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