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It's possible to not like something and discuss its intent and design, though why anyone would spend serious time discussing fourth-rate Crichton work is anybody's guess. That's the trouble with authors who hit it big time, they are afforded the opportunity to publish dreck and/or ignore their editors.
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Michael Crichton was a medical doctor and went to Harvard. He was quite possibly the smartest man in america until his untimely death.
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Authors do sometimes use characters as mouthpeices for their own views. You can and should also look past that. Just make sure you can still see the trees for the forest, as it were.
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Feb 15, 2017 23:42
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But this means Heinlein was a FACIST
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Wasnt there an earlier Heinlein book that's like starship troopers (in that it uses a biased viewpoint character to introduce the world's political system) but for New Deal democracy ...in the future? Also can I hear more about Congo and whether or not it sucked? I remember those gorillas scaring me more than xenomorphs or raptors as a kid. But I haven't seen it in decades.
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SMERSH Mouth posted:Wasnt there an earlier Heinlein book that's like starship troopers (in that it uses a biased viewpoint character to introduce the world's political system) but for New Deal democracy ...in the future? It's a movie out of its own time, a jungle adventure story. It's high comedy that most critics chose to read as serious.
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Feb 16, 2017 01:32
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Congo made me realize how awesome Tim Curry is.
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dont even fink about it posted:It's a movie out of its own time, a jungle adventure story. It's high comedy that most critics chose to read as serious. I'm going to need you to change your name back
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oldpainless posted:I'm going to need you to change your name back I don't like it either but I was sick of my old one. Let me know the next time there is a GBS name change thread.
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Congo is really good, gently caress the haters. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iemGXdBdupM Basebf555 fucked around with this message at 03:09 on Feb 16, 2017 |
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Basebf555 posted:Congo is really good, gently caress the haters. OMFG like I SAID.
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Wasn't a big thing in the movie a romance between a man and an ape?
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Shageletic posted:Wasn't a big thing in the movie a romance between a man and an ape? Not really? I mean the guy is bonded to the ape because he raised it and was one of its primary handlers, but I don't remember any subtext that would suggest there's anything more than that going on. At no point does the guy want to marry the ape or whatever.
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Shageletic posted:Wasn't a big thing in the movie a romance between a man and an ape? In my script, yes
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If Fay Wray can love King Kong, why can't Ray Ray love Lucy? 
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SMERSH Mouth posted:Wasnt there an earlier Heinlein book that's like starship troopers (in that it uses a biased viewpoint character to introduce the world's political system) but for New Deal democracy ...in the future? Heinlein whole point was to make 13 year think and talk about different subject by suckering them in with action books. Starship Troopers was the first Hugo Award novel that started a minority protagonist (that we don' find out till the end of the novel) for example.
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Good Heinlein books : Starship Troopers The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress Bad: Everything else
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The Moon is a Harsh Mistress is pretty bad. edit; It's the one with the uber cool libetarian computer guy that sleeps with all the hot ladies, right? edit 2: At this point I think I might have alzeimers.
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I remember reading a comic series set on the moon where it's a perfect free market libertopia and some fussy earth statists come to inspect it and it's absolutely hilarious.
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Shageletic posted:The Moon is a Harsh Mistress is pretty bad. Can't remember much except a smooth talking person and something to do with a computer talking and hot babes taking over the moon? I enjoyed it anyway, and it didn't seem creepy and weird like most of his stuff that I have tried.
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Midget Fist posted:Can't remember much except a smooth talking person and something to do with a computer talking and hot babes taking over the moon? I enjoyed it anyway, and it didn't seem creepy and weird like most of his stuff that I have tried. I think it's one of his creepiest. The whole "line marriage" where everyone in the family fucks each other because there aren't enough women or something.
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UmOk posted:I think it's one of his creepiest. The whole "line marriage" where everyone in the family fucks each other because there aren't enough women or something. Guess I purged that from my memory:)
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Rewatching Alien, why do they leave the planet so fast? Weren't they there to investigate the ship and it seems they just leave when Kain wakes up for no reason and then no one ever talks about it.
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I mean given what happened to Kain would you want to go back?
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Tenzarin posted:Rewatching Alien, why do they leave the planet so fast? Weren't they there to investigate the ship and it seems they just leave when Kain wakes up for no reason and then no one ever talks about it. the derelict's full of thousands eggs that rape your face.
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Groovelord Neato posted:the derelict's full of thousands eggs that rape your face. You never see them tell the computer that, they just run away.
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Tenzarin posted:You never see them tell the computer that, they just run away.
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How does a baby alien grow inside a human? Where does the mass come from? Shouldn't the human be like "jesus I'm hungry, gimmie some FOOD!"
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WHY BONER NOW posted:How does a baby alien grow inside a human? Where does the mass come from? Shouldn't the human be like "jesus I'm hungry, gimmie some FOOD!" That's what you are concerned about in a movie with giant dick aliens that rape people with their tiny mouthed-dick-mouths that come out of their regular dick-mouth?
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If they were so upset when Kane died why didn't anyone have anything to say at his funeral? Obviously they all hated him.
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They leave because they are a bunch of space truckers, not scientists, who only landed because it's contractually required in order to get payed. They fulfill the minimum requirement and bug out. With extra haste, since it wound up being dangerous. The only ones that had actual interest in the planet were Kaine and Ash. Kaine had his enthusiasm dulled by being faceraped, and Ash got what he wanted when Kaine unwittingly brought a specimen. No motive left to stay. And Kaine specifically did need to eat a lot to deal with his "pregnancy."
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WHY BONER NOW posted:How does a baby alien grow inside a human? Where does the mass come from? Shouldn't the human be like "jesus I'm hungry, gimmie some FOOD!" when kane wakes up he's ravenously hungry remember.
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I will write a realistic and rational version of Alien. "Mankind never ventures into space."
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The tagline for Alien is that "In space, no one can hear you scream," yet the crew of Alien is in space for much of the movie but we hear plenty of screaming? Immersion ruined.
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wyoming posted:I will write a realistic and rational version of Alien. I wouldn't go to space, there's face rape aliens there.
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Huh I forgot about Kaine being hungry, I need to watch Alien again. But same question for the facehugger thing that came out of Shaw in Prometheus. Answer that one away fuckers  I did try to rewatch Alien Resurrection thanks to this thread but didn't make it; I had to check out when Ripley gets pulled through the floor. God drat that movie is terrible. One part of that movie that always made me uncomfortable is when Ripley is getting Call to hack into the mainframe or whatever. Call says "I don't want to do this" and "Please don't make me do this" to which Ripley says "Don't make me make you". I don't know if I'd go as far as a rape analogy but I always found that scene unpleasant.
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Peak Whedon "badass" dialog.
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WHY BONER NOW posted:Huh I forgot about Kaine being hungry, I need to watch Alien again. But same question for the facehugger thing that came out of Shaw in Prometheus. Answer that one away fuckers That was her uterus, the machine gave her a hysterectomy. Programmed for men, she told it to remove foreign matter and so on... Also Ripley becoming a rapist is the text of the Resurrection. Like cubed is her getting over her PTSD and having sex with the doctor dude. Now that she's part rape monster "Who do I have gently caress to get off this tin can" or whatever. It is a strange movie.
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I'm always fascinated by how movies with pretty decent budgets have stuff like that and yet no movie will ever top the surreal cyborg on cyborg proboscis sex scene from Nemesis 4: Cry of Angels for sheer  factor.
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Neo Rasa posted:I'm always fascinated by how movies with pretty decent budgets have stuff like that and yet no movie will ever top the surreal cyborg on cyborg proboscis sex scene from Nemesis 4: Cry of Angels for sheer You can't post a description like that and not post a YouTube link. 
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