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Coolguye posted:also could you point to precisely where i'm super mad about things because i'm really not seeing this. i called your solution a 'hot take'. did you really consider that so offensive? i mean if so i'm sorry but seriously dude that was not a vicious raging attack.
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Dejawesp posted:No kidding. That animal skeleton turns that screenshot into a piece of art.
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Carcer posted:That animal skeleton turns that screenshot into a piece of art. i was taken in by the foyer beyond the killbox being caked in blood and grime myself
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Feb 16, 2017 20:27
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I'm genuinely a little surprised his colonists get the luxury of cooked food.
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Feb 16, 2017 20:39
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Colonists bleed a lot, go figure. I think it's a cultural thing on that planet.
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Feb 16, 2017 20:51
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Even the thousand-meal freezer has filth all in it. 40 colonists and not one janitor.
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Feb 16, 2017 20:53
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Mzbundifund posted:Even the thousand-meal freezer has filth all in it. 40 colonists and not one janitor. I think it had nearly a hundred colonists during that screenshot. It was when I had made the mistake of placing something like 50 deep drills at the same time and people were so busy hauling that cleaning was neglected all together. The drills were also very far away from the base so people got depressed and started fights far away from medical staff. People would get hungry, wander aimlessly hundred of squares from the base and then collapse from starvation once the "wander mental break" passed. It was an interesting time.
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Feb 16, 2017 21:03
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Finally, a siege! Time to test the Boomalope Defense. I send fifteen males! It's not very effective, but it's funny, they are a great distraction. Since fire summon rain, it's time for my four mortars.  First volley, direct hit on the shells! I've never been so lucky with mortars. They go directly from assaulting to fleeing.  You've done a good job Boomalope number 31, now you will bleed to death, it's too dangerous to attempt a rescue...
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Feb 16, 2017 21:03
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Dejawesp posted:No kidding. This is why my mountain base/vault has an even deeper vault of its own with its own area I can immediately restrict people to once the drop pods come in:  Deja's colonies are like I Am Legend He thinks he's trying to escape when in reality he's actually the monster that is consuming the planet's population
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How dare you keep those things anywhere near your town? (boomalopes I mean)
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Feb 16, 2017 21:05
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Crashing through the roof of the main entrance wasn't the worst spot they could have landed in but it was certainly a surprise and I don't like fighting aliens in close quarters. 
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Feb 16, 2017 21:09
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It's just area restrictions, like so:
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Feb 16, 2017 21:11
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I will always love Deja for his "Raiders of the Lost Ark final shot"-esque graveyard Majestic is the word that comes to mind
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Comptroll The Forums posted:Yes, but what if a "rimworld" dog actually has an average lifespan of 80 years? You're trying to entrench the "problem" by insisting that animals on an alien planet surrounded by alien animals and alien plants and alien technologies must be just like Earth dogs because... why? Because the lore of RimWorld is that the Earth animals are from the colony ship which is now breaking up in the atmosphere, you absolute nonce. The whole reason your starting 3 are stranded on the rimworld. That's the entire point of the game, it's on the loving title screen. Whatever game it is you want RimWorld to be, it is not that game. Go play that game.
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Baronjutter posted:I think your bedrooms are too big. Too much space for barely any mood gain. Also I like to always use double beds because after awhile it seems everyone shacks up with someone and the penalty for not having a double bed for a couple is pretty high, as is the mood bonus. Double beds in 3x4 or 3x5 rooms with a statue are enough to give everyone a positive room mood bonus if you care about such things. The real mood bonus comes from making the places your guys are actually awake in opulent. I conversely think that large bedrooms are good because since when do you need to worry about space? Cup Runneth Over posted:Because the lore of RimWorld is that the Earth animals are from the colony ship which is now breaking up in the atmosphere, you absolute nonce. The whole reason your starting 3 are stranded on the rimworld. That's the entire point of the game, it's on the loving title screen. Not, I think, actually a colony ship, just a random ship, the reason there are earth animals everywhere is because nobody ever invented FTL travel or communication so while the universe is full of people, none of the planets actually have proper links to each other and most of them are shitholes destroyed by war with the remnants of half a dozen failed civilizations on them. OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 21:21 on Feb 16, 2017 |
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Space efficiency is very important because a huge portion of productivity is eaten up with walking. The more compact and space efficient the base, the more productive.
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OwlFancier posted:I conversely think that large bedrooms are good because since when do you need to worry about space? this could be limited with better colony planning making high traffic areas more valuable but i haven't quite figured out how to plan that out so it's also modular and easy to use. z-levels would of course make the problem trivial but we don't have those. there's also ostensibly the colony wealth argument but the reality of the situation is that colony wealth is GOING to go up, the only thing you can do is be responsible for your first year or two while you get quality weapons, devilstrand clothing, and armor for your colonists. after that yeah who gives a crap
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Feb 16, 2017 21:27
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Get the realistic rooms mod so colonists aren't demanding a palace for every building for a minuscule mood boost.
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How are you mountain fort guys dealing with pawns becoming stir crazy and needing to go outside?
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Teikanmi posted:I will always love Deja for his "Raiders of the Lost Ark final shot"-esque graveyard Aww thanks! I had so many hopes and dreams for that graveyard but my save suffers from memory issues so I'm having a hard time expanding. I had the dream of multiple drop pod squads who roamed settlements for prisoners for my graveyard but attacking other towns is very unstable. Partially due to memory issues of running multiple maps but also because the colonist control just isn't for fighting. When loading the pods with 10 soldiers. 9 solders will take one item each and the 10th has to load the rest of the supplies. This means that loading the pods take forever, soldiers arrive tired and hungry and so after a fight they need to sleep. If you need time to set up an ambush soldiers will soon start to break the lines to eat/sleep or have minor breakdowns. The game barely gives any time to recover after a victory or treat wounded to soldiers who are just patched up will often get infections and then die on the walk back. Even relatively young and healthy ones. Carcer posted:How are you mountain fort guys dealing with pawns becoming stir crazy and needing to go outside? I never gave it any thought. People have so much outdoor stuff to do any way. Mine ores out of the mountains, chop wood, hunt. The only breakdown that matters at all is berserk and then you just draft the 4 nearest colonists and set them to melee attack the person going berserk. Mood is almost inconsequential since there's always people available to subdue people who are out of line. Not counting serious mood effects like a crashed ship or a dead relative or drug withdrawal. Dejawesp fucked around with this message at 21:45 on Feb 16, 2017 |
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Carcer posted:How are you mountain fort guys dealing with pawns becoming stir crazy and needing to go outside? 7*7 bedrooms 
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Carcer posted:How are you mountain fort guys dealing with pawns becoming stir crazy and needing to go outside? Walled courtyard generally does it fine. Otherwise I actually don't think I've had the need to go outside show up in a very long time, not sure if it's even a thing anymore.
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The only time I've seen cabin fever were on people with malaria stuck in hospital all month. People will go for walks and stargazer and poo poo on their own when they need it, no cave adaptation.
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Coolguye posted:large bedrooms can be a luxury that adds up due to the walks involved to/from dormitories. 13x13 bedrooms like i was doing are generally ok when you have 3-5 colonists, but when you get up to a dozen you're talking about an extra ~40-50 tiles of walk every day for a +5 moodlet. at some point it just doesn't become worth it anymore. I generally find just putting bedrooms on the corridors and digging/building in a grid works quite well. Happiness improves work speed after all. Also I think the moodlet can go up to +8 if you really pack in the swag, supposedly? It definitely goes higher than extremely impressive, it just kind of tends to plateau there for a while. It might not be strictly optimal in terms of getting work out of people but a constant, non removable mood effect on every colonist is a potent thing in terms of making your colony resistant to mood shocks.
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i've seen cabin fever when i locked up a multi-addict who was also depressive in order to make him sleep off his addictions i eventually gave him an open-air courtyard because he was going into so many mental breaks he was threatening to punch down the walls. but i think we can all agree that one's a pretty hard edge case.
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Coolguye posted:i've seen cabin fever when i locked up a multi-addict who was also depressive in order to make him sleep off his addictions Sounds like he's abusing his leg privilege to me.
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ironically it was still cheaper in terms of pawn time i think. i had someone drop in a season's worth of pemmican and walled him in, then basically left him there. every couple of days he would threaten to break down a wall with his fists, so i'd have someone come by and repair the wall. then when it got to be too annoying to have him constantly kicking off, i just built a small walled annex that was unroofed next door and then tore down the separating walls while he was sleeping. compared to the doctor time and the time feeding him i'm about 60% sure i came out ahead, and this way was both funny as hell and illustrated the utility of double-thick walls.
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Coolguye posted:ironically it was still cheaper in terms of pawn time i think. i had someone drop in a season's worth of pemmican and walled him in, then basically left him there. every couple of days he would threaten to break down a wall with his fists, so i'd have someone come by and repair the wall. then when it got to be too annoying to have him constantly kicking off, i just built a small walled annex that was unroofed next door and then tore down the separating walls while he was sleeping. Hm yes I can see the entertainment value in keeping him as a caged animal.
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yea i never claimed to be nice
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Is there any mod for single item display cases? I don't like to have to keep two items on every bench everywhere.
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Dejawesp posted:I never gave it any thought. I knew your solution would be "Who cares". Doesn't the penalty get larger over time, so things like big bedrooms and other static bonuses won't help eventually?
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starts at -7 after 3 days, goes to -15 after....i think a week? doesn't get any worse than -15, but remember that -15 is like having your hunger bar under 10%. e: or being in so much pain you're just short of shock.
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Feb 16, 2017 22:36
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Or eating a raw human head for lunch.
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Carcer posted:How are you mountain fort guys dealing with pawns becoming stir crazy and needing to go outside? I make some smaller rooms with no access to the main compound with leisure activities, also outside tables and chairs.
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on the 'fields are too small' observation- does it matter that i'm in temperate forest with year round growing? those fields are basically constantly getting turned over.
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It matters in that you're leaving a very small margin for error. If you recruit a few more pawns (or just take a few prisoners) and then get a toxic fallout event you can suddenly find yourself starving.
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Coolguye posted:yea i never claimed to be nice You play rimworld and do so many terrible things; before playing this my worst behavior in a video game was Medieval II: Total War and my french kings, alcoholic, scarred and murderous shitbags who used peasants to fix the adversaries armies before the charge of my knights.
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or your sibling dying haha this is fun Efexeye posted:on the 'fields are too small' observation- does it matter that i'm in temperate forest with year round growing? those fields are basically constantly getting turned over. not really. think of it this way: every tile you cultivate will, at the absolute worst case scenario, waste a small amount of a grower's time. that's basically the case when you plant something but then cannot harvest it due to fire/blight/whatever. beyond that, you are making the sun and soil do work for you creating goods and wealth. or, as mzbundifund points out, saving you from starvation. the real question is, how many plots can your growers reasonably handle before it becomes a real problem to harvest, haul, and hoard it all? this is especially true with regard to devilstrand - because it takes so long to grow, it effectively means that you forget about it for 30+ days at a time after you put it in the ground. you should pretty reasonably be rocking a couple thousand of raw food and berries in your freezer by this point. Even if it becomes a problem to hold all of those potatoes and strawberries, you can just call in a bulk goods trader and sell off like 5k of them in return for wood, steel, plasteel, gold, etc that you would otherwise put a fair bit of work into obtaining. you can then turn those things into art, weapons, and decorations to both improve your compound and make sure you hold onto it. AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:How do you even build underground? you play on a mountainous map and mine into the mountains, which will cover half the area.
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