Febtober Chat Thread: day early, so what

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Adiabatic: Nov 18, 2007; What have you assholes done now?

I'm currently studying for the PE exam and part of the rear end in a top hat nature of the thing is I have to know how to do every problem in every type of unit.

It's not too bad for most problems, but lbs-force and lbs-mass is just :commissar:

I never know when to properly use the conversion, and why am I doing poo poo outside of a gravity well and then skewing for Earth's gravity any-loving-ways.

# ? Feb 16, 2017 16:23

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# ? Jun 11, 2024 06:36

Olympic Mathlete: Feb 25, 2011

CharlesM posted:

Again, a cup is defined unit of volume. If something is five feet long you don't ask what size of foot.

Darchangel posted:

A "cup" is a unit of volume measure = to 8 fluid ounces, or 236.6 ml. What's so hard about that? It's a standardized unit, just like liters or whatever.
I mean, when something calls for 3 feet, do you always "whose foot?" (Or even whose yard?)

E: f,b. Twice.

Yeah but the poo poo you are cooking can often vary in volume by ingredient. Going by weight straight off gets you what you need.

# ? Feb 16, 2017 16:26

beep-beep car is go: Apr 11, 2005; I can just eyeball this, right?

Nobody cares about the ambiguity of motherfucking GAS MARK as a measure of heat?

# ? Feb 16, 2017 16:29

cakesmith handyman: Jul 22, 2007; Pip-Pip old chap! Last one in is a rotten egg what what.

Safety Dance posted:

It's a defined unit of measure. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cup_(unit)

236 and some change ml, unless you're using a metric cup, which is 250ml.

That's like saying WHAT SIZE KILOGRAM?!??!?

Cups works okay for materials with defined densities (milk doesn't compress enough to change your recipe) but floor can be lightly or densely packed and suits weight better.

For some people it's close enough, whatever floats your goat.

E: gas mark is retarded we agree. Electric ovens are better anyway :colbert:

# ? Feb 16, 2017 16:31

Olympic Mathlete: Feb 25, 2011

cakesmith handyman posted:

E: gas mark is retarded we agree. Electric ovens are better anyway

is true, I can never get my pizza dough balls to work properly in a gas oven. Electric fan ovens though? :discourse:

# ? Feb 16, 2017 16:33

spog: Aug 7, 2004; It's your own bloody fault.

beep-beep car is go posted:

Nobody cares about the ambiguity of motherfucking GAS MARK as a measure of heat?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gas_Mark

code:

Gas mark 	Fahrenheit 	Celsius 	Descriptive
1/4 	225� 	107� 	Very Slow/Very Low
1/2 	250� 	121� 	Very Slow/Very Low
1 	275� 	135� 	Slow/Low
2 	300� 	149� 	Slow/Low
3 	325� 	163� 	Moderately Slow/Warm
4 	350� 	177� 	Moderate/Medium
5 	375� 	191� 	Moderate/Moderately Hot
6 	400� 	204� 	Moderately Hot
7 	425� 	218� 	Hot
8 	450� 	232� 	Hot/Very Hot
9 	475� 	246� 	Very Hot
10 	500� 	260� 	
11 	525� 	274� 	
12 	550� 	288�

# ? Feb 16, 2017 16:36

slothrop: Dec 7, 2006; Santa Alpha, Fox One... Gifts Incoming ~~~>===|>; Soiled Meat

FOCUS YOU FUCKS

# ? Feb 16, 2017 16:42

fridge corn: Apr 2, 2003; NO MERCY, ONLY PAIN

my best cup size is D

# ? Feb 16, 2017 16:42

kastein: Aug 31, 2011; Moderator at http://www.ridgelineownersclub.com/forums/and soon to be mod of AI. MAKE AI GREAT AGAIN. Motronic for VP.

CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:

Being ignorant of Imperial is a good thing. Your country should try it sometime and join the rest of the world

just a few things
"metric horsepower":
DIN 66036 defines one metric horsepower as the power to raise a mass of 75 kilograms against the earth's gravitational force over a distance of one metre in one second;[18] this is equivalent to 735.49875 W or 98.6% of an imperial mechanical horsepower.
the metric countries can't even loving agree on an acronym for it, there are SIX DIFFERENT ONES (PS, cv, hk, pk, ks, ch)

and ANSI vs DIN vs JIS metric bolt heads

get off your high horse before I shoot it

Adiabatic posted:

I'm currently studying for the PE exam and part of the rear end in a top hat nature of the thing is I have to know how to do every problem in every type of unit.

It's not too bad for most problems, but lbs-force and lbs-mass is just I never know when to properly use the conversion, and why am I doing poo poo outside of a gravity well and then skewing for Earth's gravity any-loving-ways.

lbf vs lbm is the worst drat thing, but at least being off by a factor of ~30 is usually a hint, unless you're just working with staggeringly huge or tiny numbers and can't get a good feel for it. If lbf/lbm is involved I usually convert all my poo poo to metric and do it in metric then convert back as a sanity check.

kastein fucked around with this message at 16:48 on Feb 16, 2017

# ? Feb 16, 2017 16:46

LloydDobler: Oct 15, 2005; You shared it with a dick.

My metric/imperial nightmare is happening at my new job. The edict has come down that we should do the entire machine in metric fasteners. Which is fine. Except for once in a while like when I want to buy a gas spring or something like that, that only comes in imperial threads on the end. Yeah I could shop around all different suppliers until I find one with metric threads but we're a small company, and that just adds to hassle and lead time that we really don't have time for. So my machine is about 99% metric with maybe 8 imperial fasteners in it.

Then we ship them to old school unionized factories and when they lose a bolt they end up having to run out and buy one and get pissed at us because their tool room doesn't stock anything in metric.

I first went to college in 1989. They taught us everything in metric and imperial because we'd be switching to the metric system "any day now".

# ? Feb 16, 2017 16:51

beep-beep car is go: Apr 11, 2005; I can just eyeball this, right?

LloydDobler posted:

I first went to college in 1989. They taught us everything in metric and imperial because we'd be switching to the metric system "any day now".

I still have an awesome old 1970's "Here comes the metric system" pocket converter for when "the metric system comes in the next decade"

# ? Feb 16, 2017 16:56

The Locator: Sep 12, 2004; Out here, everything hurts.

fridge corn posted:

my best cup size is D

I'm equal opportunity and like all cup sizes. :pervert:

# ? Feb 16, 2017 16:58

InitialDave: Jun 14, 2007; I Want To Believe.

LloydDobler posted:

My metric/imperial nightmare is happening at my new job. The edict has come down that we should do the entire machine in metric fasteners. Which is fine. Except for once in a while like when I want to buy a gas spring or something like that, that only comes in imperial threads on the end. Yeah I could shop around all different suppliers until I find one with metric threads but we're a small company, and that just adds to hassle and lead time that we really don't have time for. So my machine is about 99% metric with maybe 8 imperial fasteners in it.

Then we ship them to old school unionized factories and when they lose a bolt they end up having to run out and buy one and get pissed at us because their tool room doesn't stock anything in metric.

I first went to college in 1989. They taught us everything in metric and imperial because we'd be switching to the metric system "any day now".

Congratulations, you are now Land Rover.

# ? Feb 16, 2017 17:37

Fermented Tinal: Aug 25, 2005; by Pragmatica

It's slightly less schizophrenic here. Dimensional lumber and construction is all done in imperial. Recipes are almost always in imperial, even the ones printed on packages (which I imagine pisses off Quebecers to no end). Everything else is metric.

Older people here used to tend to use Fahrenheit when hazarding a guess at the ambient temperature, though less so now because Boomers and Gen Xers have figured Celcius out finally.

# ? Feb 16, 2017 17:39

InitialDave: Jun 14, 2007; I Want To Believe.

Sheet wood is ostensibly metric here.

Standard size is 2440x1220...

# ? Feb 16, 2017 17:41

cursedshitbox: May 20, 2012; Your rear-end wont survive my hammering.; Fun Shoe

The Locator posted:

I'm equal opportunity and like all cup sizes.

Goon manboobs in this chat.

InitialDave posted:

Congratulations, you are now Land Rover.

Item L:

a mementos to never go full retard again.
3/8-16 threads, 12mm 12pt head

# ? Feb 16, 2017 17:43

Seat Safety Switch: May 27, 2008; MY RELIGION IS THE SMALL BLOCK V8 AND COMMANDMENTS ONE THROUGH TEN ARE NEVER LIFT.; Pillbug

Metal Geir Skogul posted:

I hope he recovers. I'm gonna keep trying.

I'm rooting for Beetle. I'm sorry this is happening, buddy.

# ? Feb 16, 2017 18:02

Adiabatic: Nov 18, 2007; What have you assholes done now?

Hey y'all I just appended the rules with an email I just set up. Any suggestions can be directed there. AdiabaticSA@gmail.com.

If you sign me up for porn, at least make it interesting.

# ? Feb 16, 2017 18:08

Nidhg00670000: Mar 26, 2010; We're in the pipe, five by five.; Grimey Drawer

bolind posted:

Chermany loves their liter per 100, but at least all of Scandinavia is km/l, which obviously is equivalent to MPG just with a scaling factor.

Never heard of km/l in Sweden. "Liter per mil" is still the colloquial expression, a swedish (and norwegian) mil being 10 km.

# ? Feb 16, 2017 19:08

KozmoNaut: Apr 23, 2008; Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle

Colin Furze is insane, and it's the best thing ever.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-e2tAUo89o

# ? Feb 16, 2017 19:28

The Locator: Sep 12, 2004; Out here, everything hurts.

KozmoNaut posted:

Colin Furze is insane, and it's the best thing ever.

I'm really fairly perplexed at how he is still alive. :v:

# ? Feb 16, 2017 20:14

Coredump: Dec 1, 2002

KozmoNaut posted:

Colin Furze is insane, and it's the best thing ever.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-e2tAUo89o

A national treasure.

# ? Feb 16, 2017 20:19

Goober Peas: Jun 30, 2007; Check out my 'Vette, bro

Adiabatic posted:

Hey y'all I just appended the rules with an email I just set up. Any suggestions can be directed there. AdiabaticSA@gmail.com.

If you sign me up for porn, at least make it interesting.

Sean Cody or Corbin Fisher?

:laffo:

# ? Feb 16, 2017 20:37

Deeters: Aug 21, 2007

Does the UK actually let people buy fireworks like that? I wouldn't expect it in a place that freaks out about people carrying a knife.

# ? Feb 16, 2017 20:37

MrChips: Jun 10, 2005; FLIGHT SAFETY TIP: Fatties out first

I've never understood that about the US.

hey come on down to SuperWalCostMartCo where we will sell you twenty different kinds of guns so powerful you could kill a building

just don't ask to buy fireworks here bub...that would be dangerous

# ? Feb 16, 2017 21:29

OBAMNA PHONE: Aug 7, 2002

MrChips posted:

I've never understood that about the US.

hey come on down to SuperWalCostMartCo where we will sell you twenty different kinds of guns so powerful you could kill a building

just don't ask to buy fireworks here bub...that would be dangerous

what? fireworks are legal all over the US

# ? Feb 16, 2017 21:31

Lightbulb Out: Apr 28, 2006; slack jawed yokel

BraveUlysses posted:

what? fireworks are legal all over the US

Depends on your state, I don't think sparklers count.

# ? Feb 16, 2017 21:34

NitroSpazzz: Dec 9, 2006; You don't need style when you've got strength!

Random question for you guys. What's your preferred brand of heat shrink and crimp connectors? I'll be using deutsch (if I can find the $$$ tool to borrow) or weather pack for most of the connections but there's going to be enough tab and crimp connections I'd like to get some that are tested and not poo poo.

# ? Feb 16, 2017 21:35

mariooncrack: Dec 27, 2008

BraveUlysses posted:

what? fireworks are legal all over the US

In Ohio, you can buy small things like sparklers at Walmart. There are specialty fireworks stores that sell bigger ones but it's illegal to set them off in Ohio. You're supposed to leave the state with them within 24 or 48 hours.

# ? Feb 16, 2017 21:36

OBAMNA PHONE: Aug 7, 2002

I didn't say everywhere :colbert:

# ? Feb 16, 2017 21:39

ilkhan: Oct 7, 2004; Ok then

bolind posted:

Hey AI. I have an iPhone. Sometimes I take pictures with it. Some of those pictures need to go on my personal imgur account so I can ~~share~~bore you goons with them.

Currently my workflow is horrible. I email them to myself, go on a computer, upload them to imgur, and then use them in my shitposts. Considering my 9-5 is to charge exorbitant amounts of money to make computers of all sizes do all the right things and none of the wrong things, this is slightly embarrassing.

Walk me through this like I was your grandma. How do I go overpriced Tim Cook device -> imgur account in as few steps as possible?

Open in Google photos in browser, drag to desktop, upload to imgur. I can use the actual download button if I want high res. Or find them on Google Drive. Or I can use the imgur app but its dumb.

Metal Geir Skogul posted:

I learned SOLIDWORKS in metric. That has changed my entire outlook on life.

Except for l/100km. That's dumb. My brain is still in MPG or even MPL. Having it be "consumption per ARBITRARY NUMBER" is dumb. "Distance based on unit purchased" jives better in my head.

It actually makes comparisons a lot easier than MPG. A 2 number change in MPG can be 10-12 (big change!) or 30-32 (tiny change).

# ? Feb 16, 2017 21:42

Queen_Combat: Jan 15, 2011

Yes but mpg directly links to my dollars, which is easier to convert to "commute dollars" in my mind.

"This car gets 20mpg. My commute is 18 miles. It takes one gallon of gas to get to work every day. That's four gallons a week."

Or

"I have $5. That's 2 gallons of gas, which is 40 miles. I'm poor as poo poo, so this weekend, I can drive 40 miles on what money I have.

Both make "intrinsic" sense to me. It's probably just because I grew up and think like that .

Versus

"Okay, my commute is 36km. My car gets 10L/100km, so 100 divided by 36 and blaaaagh I don't care anymore division is hard. Do I have enough money for the week's commute? I don't loving know."

E: you're right that it's straightforward, but it is one more number to remember.. Just one, but man that extra constant, and two steps in the process, is so much to get people to convert over.

MPG method: commute is X miles, car goes Y miles per gallon. X / Y = Gallons needed.

L/100km method: commute is X km, car needs Y liters per 100km. 100 / Y = Z. X / Z = liters needed per commute.

Queen_Combat fucked around with this message at 22:26 on Feb 16, 2017

# ? Feb 16, 2017 21:56

fridge corn: Apr 2, 2003; NO MERCY, ONLY PAIN

🎂 today is my birthday 🎂 happy birthday to me 🎂

# ? Feb 16, 2017 21:58

Adiabatic: Nov 18, 2007; What have you assholes done now?

Happy birthday!

# ? Feb 16, 2017 22:02

KozmoNaut: Apr 23, 2008; Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle

Metal Geir Skogul posted:

"Okay, my commute is 36km. My car gets 10L/100km, so 100 divided by 36 and blaaaagh I don't care anymore division is hard. Do I have enough money for the week's commute? I don't loving know."

"I have DKK100, that's about 10 liters of gas. My car uses 8L/100km, so I can go a bit over 100km on the gas that I can afford. My commute is 35 kilometers each way, so I'll need to fill up on my way home, the day after tomorrow."

It's actually pretty straightforward, but you're right that MPG is probably just ingrained in your mind from so many years of using it.

# ? Feb 16, 2017 22:10