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unrelated hanging in my director's office for a quick meeting. on his whiteboard wall he has this quote quote:Be passionate that none of us are smarter than the collection of all of us. i can't help but feel something got misquoted. 
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My company just told me that they wouldn't pay for anyone in my group to have a webex/gotomeeting account for working with vendors that don't supply their own solution, but we can pay for it out of pocket for our own personal accounts and they'd let us use them. Gee, thanks guys.
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Feb 16, 2017 22:26
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Wrath of the Bitch King posted:My company just told me that they wouldn't pay for anyone in my group to have a webex/gotomeeting account for working with vendors that don't supply their own solution, but we can pay for it out of pocket for our own personal accounts and they'd let us use them. lmao
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Feb 16, 2017 22:55
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mishaq posted:lmao
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Feb 16, 2017 23:07
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Wrath of the Bitch King posted:My company just told me that they wouldn't pay for anyone in my group to have a webex/gotomeeting account for working with vendors that don't supply their own solution, but we can pay for it out of pocket for our own personal accounts and they'd let us use them. 
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Feb 16, 2017 23:18
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uncurable mlady posted:owned, what was the project for i was wrong, it was actually six months of work, the customer ended up reading a pretty easy to find document from the vendor that spelled out the only supported deployments, the thing we were proposing was specifically called out as not workable. customer is pissed off, but none of the poo poo will stick to me. sales didnt involve anyone outside their group and didnt read anything it seems. lol
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today's gtm session ended "for inactivity" abruptly and kicked everyone out just as well since i couldn't make out what they were saying anyway
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we're a mess on this. Until recently our European offices all ran an internal xmpp server and used pidgin for internal chat - mainly that involved posting memes back and forth. The US used yahoo loving messenger until last year. Meanwhile devs started to adopt free-tier slack and unsuccessfully tried to get everyone else to use it before being crushed by management. They even held a "everyone use slack day" in which absolutely no-one globally got anything done other than being confused by slack. There's a few skypers out there too, actual skype, not lync with a badge hastily pasted over it Since we got 365 globally 6 months or so ago everyone was unofficially urged to S4B but adoption is spotty. I use it and the Mac client is gradually getting slightly less lovely and it's pretty good for short burst interactions with clients i guess. just when everything was normalizing management decided Teams should be the one true collaboration method which i suppose was supposed to please the skypers, slackers and jabberers but doesn't really please anyone because its poo poo. I don't even know where s4b ends and teams starts tbh In all of this we always have and continue to use webex for most meetings which seems to me to be the least lovely of them all but that's not saying much
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shitface posted:I don't even know where s4b ends and teams starts tbh nor does microsoft
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disable s4b integration with teams, it's on by default and very bad teams is bad but tolerable
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Feb 17, 2017 03:46
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mishaq posted:disable s4b integration with teams, it's on by default and very bad Do i still need both running then?
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shitface posted:Do i still need both running then? yes
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Feb 17, 2017 04:04
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mishaq posted:yes What a complete clusterfuck 
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shitface posted:Do i still need both running then? only if you want to talk to people still on skype 4 b
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Feb 17, 2017 04:19
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Shaggar posted:only if you want to talk to people still on skype 4 b how is it possible to gently caress this up so badly? this surely can't be coming from the office team, the last and only team of any competence whatsoever at microsoft
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shitface posted:how is it possible to gently caress this up so badly? this surely can't be coming from the office team, the last and only team of any competence whatsoever at microsoft lync is a telephony product being a telephony product, it literally sets up a "call" for each IM convo, which is why every time the same person IMs me on my mac in skype 4 business after a break and presumably closing their window, i get their messages in a brand new window even if the previous window is still open meanwhile teams on mac works ok but on my Windows pc i have to reenter my credentials each time i turn it on microsoft makes bad software
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my company made A BIG DEAL about how we need to stop using WebEx and only use skype4biz and after six months, WebEx was back. now we are ONLY supposed to use WebEx for meetings. I give it a year before they try it again.
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Feb 17, 2017 05:05
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trying to use skype for business with someone outside of your own organization for a meeting is the worst
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mishaq posted:trying to use skype for business with someone outside of your own organization for a meeting is the worst this has been working ok-ish for me with my current client. earlier version hosed up screen sharing and calling but the current one seems ok. I think I might be on the ~insider~ version though
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just loving fire everyone but the office team or at least take someone from office and put them in charge of the other things because its the only thing they make that isn't a complete and utter shitshow
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Feb 17, 2017 05:18
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mishaq posted:lync is a telephony product it literally uses SIP
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Feb 17, 2017 06:03
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people dont just use slack or google hangouts or biba or whatever depending on what they're trying to do?
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Feb 17, 2017 06:07
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Sniep posted:people dont just use slack or google hangouts or biba or whatever depending on what they're trying to do? slack wants to charge companies $12.50/user/month for SSO AD integration lol
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Feb 17, 2017 06:08
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mishaq posted:slack wants to charge companies $12.50/user/month for SSO AD integration lol why would you want that like literally what benefit would that offer vs. just having normal rear end accounts
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Feb 17, 2017 06:14
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Sniep posted:why would you want that when your users gently caress up an forget both their password and recovery key there is literally no way to regain an account when you're not using sso. You tell the cfo he's a fuckhead
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Feb 17, 2017 06:16
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shitface posted:when your users gently caress up an forget both their password and recovery key there is literally no way to regain an account when you're not using sso. You tell the cfo he's a fuckhead literaly no way to regain an account when you're not ussing SSO for forgetting their password?
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Sniep posted:literaly no way to regain an account when you're not ussing SSO for forgetting their password? yeah you're right. I was thinking of 2fa and if you lost code for that. It happened to, um, a friend 
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Feb 17, 2017 06:34
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Sniep posted:why would you want that milking money from big corporate accounts that think it's a must have. I mean that's why our poo poo has worthless AD integration which really is not something I can object to tbh
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Feb 17, 2017 06:39
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if it subsidizes it for the rest of us then cool w/e
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Feb 17, 2017 06:42
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Arcsech posted:milking money from big corporate accounts that think it's a must have. I mean that's why our poo poo has worthless AD integration that stuff is a must have if you work in a big company, remembering passwords is a titanic effort for most employees and they don't make systems or use tools to track them either we had a senior director refuse to use jama at work because he didn't remember his password and found the reset page "confusing" and "not adding value"
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Feb 17, 2017 11:26
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Mad Wack posted:that stuff is a must have if you work in a big company, remembering passwords is a titanic effort for most employees and they don't make systems or use tools to track them either sso is good poo poo, i already have to remember something like 5 or 6 different passwords that all change every 90 days and each have different requirements because half of them are for mainframe-era stuff that has a hard limit of 8 chars etc and no password manager
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Feb 17, 2017 14:36
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we started using teamwork and if you want ad integration you have to get "enterprise" which is like 10x as expensive lmao oh and our voip system literally does not do ad integration, at all.
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at my job we have three competing sso platforms with arcane rules around which ones can be used for what ping is reliable but "legacy" and not allowed to have new apps azure sso is down frequently and doesn't support basic features like deep links the third platform is another instance of ping but it's not hooked up to the corporate directory so you have to manually add employees via a flat file attached to a service now ticket also 2 & 3 go down on a daily basis taking most of the company platforms with them we recently found out the reason number 3 goes down so often is that it is actually the test environment of #1 but someone decided to make it corporate policy to use that one instead of prod also there are three identity and access management teams (five if you count our subsidiaries) and they are all in a crab battle to determine which team will continue to exist
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also, our AD is not actually a directory - it receives a very condensed feed of employees from an informatica interface to a custom built german AD instance that was made in 2003 this means if you want any information about an employee beyond their name, email, and department you need to fill out a form (in german) and request a report
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this also means for our two most recent acquisitions (~30k employees) they cannot be migrated from their existing AD, meaning they officially do not exist.
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Mad Wack posted:at my job we have three competing sso platforms with arcane rules around which ones can be used for what Mad Wack posted:also, our AD is not actually a directory - it receives a very condensed feed of employees from an informatica interface to a custom built german AD instance that was made in 2003 Mad Wack posted:this also means for our two most recent acquisitions (~30k employees) they cannot be migrated from their existing AD, meaning they officially do not exist. lol amazing
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i have a direct report from one of these groups and her compensation is listed in my manager portal as NaN
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Mad Wack posted:i have a direct report from one of these groups and her compensation is listed in my manager portal as NaN if you have a budget of NaN does that mean spending more money doesn't change it?
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Mad Wack posted:i have a direct report from one of these groups and her compensation is listed in my manager portal as NaN accurate for women in tech
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