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sweetmercifulcrap posted:This is pretty true, but those three complaints would only be scratching the surface of why post-classic seasons are bad. For sure. Some goon earlier posted that "Indiana Jones" parody scene as an example of Simpsons doing cartoony well. The only difference between that and some of the silly stuff they try to do currently is that back then they had a higher standard of expressive animation, and— as you mentioned— better timing. It really is not hard to imagine that exact sequence made today coming off as incredibly lame just due to shittiness in those departments. It's pretty much like they still try to write that type of humor all the time, but the execution is so flat the whole thing just comes off as embarrassing. Also, too, I guess those sequences were also funnier because they were less expected, the Simpsons still riding on the expectation set back then that they were just a sitcom that happened to be drawn as opposed to a full-fledged cartoon.
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it'd be hard for me to watch the show even if it was funnier due to the sanitized art style/animation.
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Feb 14, 2017 23:39
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Note: Since your intro is attached to every episode, its animation quality is higher and more fluid than the episode content.
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Feb 14, 2017 23:51
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Newgrounds style tweening would probably have more charm than the current animation
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Feb 15, 2017 00:00
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I thought the new intro was kind of fun when I first saw it, thinking it was just a one-off riff on the usual opening with some Easter eggs for the fans. I think if they just left it at that it would have been okay.
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Feb 15, 2017 01:33
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I always thought the Louis Lane thing was a hilarious idea. You can even see one or two buildups to it in the show - like when Otto suggests Superman come save the town from giant ads and Comic Book Guy's all "oh, please". Now that that idea is unmade that joke doesn't really make sense anymore beyond "seeing cbg be stuck-up about worthless things is funny". I don't mind the joke that instead CBG's name is totally uninteresting, but it would've been better to make it interesting. edit: Baby Gerald never ever should have been used outside of that "Even Maggie's got an enemy" scene. Cobweb Heart fucked around with this message at 04:25 on Feb 15, 2017 |
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Feb 15, 2017 04:21
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Cobweb Heart posted:
It was kind of funny the second time we see him, when Mayor Quimby was at the rally honoring Bart's dog for saving him from a fire he started off camera (or something like that.) "Baby Gerald, we can't help but wonder what mischief you'll get into next." It was funny because it had nothing to do with him being Maggie's nemesis, but that he was a cute lil' evil arsonist.
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Feb 15, 2017 05:24
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Drink-Mix Man posted:It was kind of funny the second time we see him, when Mayor Quimby was at the rally honoring Bart's dog for saving him from a fire he started off camera (or something like that.) "Baby Gerald, we can't help but wonder what mischief you'll get into next." It was funny because it had nothing to do with him being Maggie's nemesis, but that he was a cute lil' evil arsonist. drat, that is funny and I don't even remember that one! Other characters they DIDN'T gently caress up: Lester and Eliza have never been seen again, except beforehand as generic kid designs.
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Feb 15, 2017 05:44
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Cobweb Heart posted:drat, that is funny and I don't even remember that one! It was in that scene that Baby Gerald got his name. Also Lester and Eliza are based on how Bart and Lisa used to be drawn in the earlier Tracey Ullman shorts.
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Feb 15, 2017 05:48
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There was one episode where Marge calls someone a butthole and I remember thinking "that's really crass and out of character for her" when it first aired and the writers apparently agreed because they eventually decided to give her the regressive sexual lexicon of a third grader.
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Feb 15, 2017 05:58
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Groovelord Neato posted:the most hosed up thing about the movie is they have al brooks as the villain but he's not hank scorpio I ALWAYS WONDERED. Thank you.
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Feb 15, 2017 23:30
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:I will still argue up and down with people about their rosy memories of the first bunch of seasons. There were plenty of: Youre going to have to name some examples to win me over on this one duder. I don't recall any family guy esque cutaways at all and the pointless celebrities is probably up for debate depending on which ones you mean.
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Feb 16, 2017 00:12
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Adam West was a pointless celebrity cameo
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Yeah, often in the classic episodes a celebrity will show up and deliver a line or two, but they usually at least came up with an appropriate reason for them to be there and the episode isn't centered around them. Adam West was there at a car show with the original Batmobile. Or Leonard Nimoy in Mage vs. the Monorail - it's a little forced but it also makes sense that they would try to get some celebrities to attend the event for publicity. There aren't any Family Guy-esque cutaways in that they never cut to a non-canonical scene where the characters are inserted into a random pop culture reference, but there are cutaways.
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Nutsngum posted:Youre going to have to name some examples to win me over on this one duder. I don't recall any family guy esque cutaways at all and the pointless celebrities is probably up for debate depending on which ones you mean. They did a number of flashbacks and such, though not as egregiously non-sequitur as Family Guy's "This is worse than the time..." stuff. For example, Homer saying "Some of the best times I've ever had were in the back seat of a car," then cutting to him eating a sandwich in the back of a car. On celebrities, you've got "Tony Randall!" in the Capitol City episode, Adam West, James Woods, Mickey Roarke, Paul and Linda. I mean they're all funny, but still mostly "pointless" in the sense that they just show up for a gag and not in service of the plot.
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Drink-Mix Man posted:On celebrities, you've got "Tony Randall!" in the Capitol City episode, Adam West, James Woods, Mickey Roarke, Paul and Linda. I mean they're all funny, but still mostly "pointless" in the sense that they just show up for a gag and not in service of the plot. I suppose the difference would be that they were just around for a brief couple of funny gags, rather than having the majority of an episode revolve around them. And being unfunny.
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:1. "Family Guy-esque cutaways" even though Family Guy didn't exist yet This wrinkles my brain a little bit because cutaways didn't get so much flak until Family Guy overused them, so how could The Simpsons' writers create "Family Guy-esque cutaways" aka "overused cutaways" when A. Family Guy didn't exist B. they didn't overuse them and C. generally speaking, they weren't really overdone at the time in TV shows ? Last Chance fucked around with this message at 00:45 on Feb 16, 2017 |
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Feb 16, 2017 00:42
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Homer thinking about a sandwich in a car when you think he's thinking about fukkin and sukkin is funnier that Peter randomly talking about Paul Weller going paintballing because one is a joke with a setup and punchline and one is a gag that you'd get on a sketch show.
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Feb 16, 2017 10:16
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Im so glad it isnt Scorpio in the movie so his character isnt tarnished by that abomination
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Nonviolent J posted:Im so glad it isnt Scorpio in the movie so his character isnt tarnished by that abomination This. My biggest problem with the Simpsons movie was that it didn't feel like the Simpsons. Who the hell thought it would be a good idea to change Wolfcastle into Arnold? It had to get "big" and it felt anemic because of it. Bringing back Scorpio would have been bad for many reasons, but the biggest is that he's a likeable character and seemingly down to earth people's person from our perspective. Granted I haven't seen an episode since 2006 or something...
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Feb 16, 2017 11:42
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Simpsons Movie 2: Hank Scorpio runs for President.
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Ein cooler Typ posted:Adam West was a great celebrity cameo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PCL15eKnPE
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Good direction, but it needs to send Homer to outer space again and have at least seven guest celebrities playing themselves who all need Homer's help. Lisa has to have a crush on two guys this time, and they have to be Abercrombie child models who've moved to Springfield-- surprise! Their dad is Elon Musk! Wow! Also something about whatever other family members there are. ... they all go to India where they meet Hank Scorpio! There, Homer lands Elon's new prototype spaceship and convinces Hank to run for president... where a fight between Richard Branson and Elon breaks out!
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When I think of a pointless celebrity cameo episode, I think of that one where Homer literally drops through a celebrity couple's skylight and spends the rest of the episode giving them relationship advice. I tried to refresh my memory on the details, but then I instead found an episode about Mandy Moore stripteasing at a baseball game and then later pole-dancing in front of Bart and moaning while Homer gives her a massage. Homer then crashes a blimp, but is fine. Like, alright.
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Drink-Mix Man posted:They did a number of flashbacks and such, though not as egregiously non-sequitur as Family Guy's "This is worse than the time..." stuff. For example, Homer saying "Some of the best times I've ever had were in the back seat of a car," then cutting to him eating a sandwich in the back of a car. That's not the same thing at all. That's a simple joke with a set up in the present and a payoff in the flahsback. Family Guy would cut to a completely unrelated re-enactment of a movie scene or Peter fighting a giant chicken for ten minutes
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Drunken Baker posted:Homer thinking about a sandwich in a car when you think he's thinking about fukkin and sukkin is funnier that Peter randomly talking about Paul Weller going paintballing because one is a joke with a setup and punchline and one is a gag that you'd get on a sketch show. Yeah. Those fg cut aways are available in sketch form and they're so much better for it. Backweb posted:This. Wolfcastle being literally Arnold is another example of neo Simpsons needing to explain every joke. Rainer was basically Arnold but was better when just called Rainer because then you're ripping on a Hollywood stock character (could also be van damme or lundgren) instead of gossipping about celebs. E: because the Simpsons was so good at sending up tropes, I used to think that Matlock, macgyver and jay Sherman were all their own creations like itchy and scratchy. Das Boo posted:When I think of a pointless celebrity cameo episode, I think of that one where Homer literally drops through a celebrity couple's skylight and spends the rest of the episode giving them relationship advice. I tried to refresh my memory on the details, but then I instead found an episode about Mandy Moore stripteasing at a baseball game and then later pole-dancing in front of Bart and moaning while Homer gives her a massage. Homer then crashes a blimp, but is fine. When you dish upon a star? Season 10....
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Benny Harvey posted:Wolfcastle being literally Arnold is another example of neo Simpsons needing to explain every joke. Rainer was basically Arnold but was better when just called Rainer because then you're ripping on a Hollywood stock character (could also be van damme or lundgren) instead of gossipping about celebs. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pjqc1hqbRmA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RJei9xpRrI
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Wasn't there some God awful episode where Frank Grimes' twin tried to kill homer? Also Bart went to fat camp? This must have been at least 10 years ago and I stopped watching even before that point
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The moment I realized that the Simpsons had become terrible was the one where Tony Hawk gave Homer a magic skateboard. It was probably bad before then, but that was the point where I stopped watching.
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Feb 16, 2017 22:55
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when i say something like it's hosed up they used al brooks in the movie and not make him hank scorpio i didn't mean just plop hank scorpio into the movie as we got it. the mindset that would've written that into the plot would've been one that didn't make the movie we saw (since it'd have to go into more depth about the dome since hank and homer know each other).
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I can grudgingly admit there's still a couch gag worth checking out once in a while when they have guest animators. La Z Rider was the best simpsons related anything in fifteen years. https://youtu.be/kZu5iDTtNg0
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Groovelord Neato posted:the most hosed up thing about the movie is they have al brooks as the villain but he's not hank scorpio This is super-familiar but I can't quite place where it's from. What episodes/scenes has it been used in?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqLGAtvnMLU it also plays in disco stu's version of heaven. Groovelord Neato fucked around with this message at 01:22 on Feb 17, 2017 |
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Feb 17, 2017 01:19
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Groovelord Neato posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqLGAtvnMLU aaah yes it's coming back now. I'm surprised how much it was bothering me that there was a classic Simpsons reference I couldn't identify
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Feb 17, 2017 01:25
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Benny Harvey posted:
Thaaat's the one.
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Das Boo posted:Thaaat's the one. Das bus
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I'll krump with you sweetie pie
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What's really annoying about the show is how repulsive the animation became. They don't care that simple hand-drawn animation of the golden era simply look better than the pristine computerized crap they have now.
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