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nachos
Jun 27, 2004

Wario Chalmers! WAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
Shane Battier is the heat's new director of analytics

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chunkles
Aug 14, 2005

i am completely immersed in darkness
as i turn my body away from the sun
Well that's pretty cool, I always felt like he was wasted commentating college games.

Strawberry Panda
Nov 4, 2007

Breakfast Defecting, Slow Dick Touching, Root Beer Barreling SwagVP

DeimosRising posted:

Boston is very sliiiiiightly better on defense with him on the court, he's obviously small and not great but the worst defender in the league is going to have a worse than neutral impact.

I have no idea if this guy's analysis is good but it's worth a read in this discussion:

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/celtics-isaiah-thomas-is-a-fourth-quarter-killer-but-which-team-is-he-killing/

Doltos
Dec 28, 2005

🤌🤌🤌

Lockback posted:

DRPM has him dead last, and the -3.9 DBPM is also dead last in the NBA among players with 1000+ minutes. It's hard to really hurt your team with defensive PG play, but IT does manage it.

According to the more in depth analysis Strawberry Panda linked you're definitely right that him being so awful at rebounding is killing his team. Rebounds = Possessions. However the analyst says this:

that nerd from cbs posted:

First, it's never one thing when the metrics are this messy. It's not like every single bucket scored is because Thomas is unable or unwilling to defend, and that's important in determining where to go from here. Here's what this data doesn't tell us:
It doesn't tell us that Isaiah Thomas is a bad NBA player who should be benched.
It doesn't tell us that the Celtics should bench Isaiah Thomas in the fourth.
It doesn't tell us that Thomas is the reason they are bad defensively.

Essentially saying he ran the numbers and found no correlation significance. The Celtics are pretty much just hiding him on bad wing players like you do with any bad defensive star. The best he can do then is play harass perimeter defense since he's never going to be able to fight through screens effectively or drop back on defense. I think he does that harass defense pretty well.

WhyteRyce
Dec 30, 2001

I miss Bill Walton
https://streamable.com/6u9nz

Lockback
Sep 3, 2006

All days are nights to see till I see thee; and nights bright days when dreams do show me thee.

DeimosRising posted:

Boston is very sliiiiiightly better on defense with him on the court, he's obviously small and not great but the worst defender in the league is going to have a worse than neutral impact.

What are you talking about? When he is on the court opponent ORTG is 112, when he is off it's 102.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/t/thomais02/on-off/2017

That's a huge swing, and he plays alongside Avery Bradley a lot.

He's still a positive player, but I can't find a single stat that says he is neutral. on D

Metapod
Mar 18, 2012

lmao this is fantastic

DeimosRising
Oct 17, 2005

¡Hola SEA!


Lockback posted:

What are you talking about? When he is on the court opponent ORTG is 112, when he is off it's 102.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/t/thomais02/on-off/2017

That's a huge swing, and he plays alongside Avery Bradley a lot.

He's still a positive player, but I can't find a single stat that says he is neutral. on D

I somehow accidentally had open his stats from 2014-15 when it was 104.3 to 104.7

Space Camp fuckup
Aug 2, 2003


This is perfect

SunshineDanceParty
Feb 7, 2006

One Road. Two Friends. One Ass.

So cruel so true.

Redgrendel2001
Sep 1, 2006

you literally think a person saying their NBA team of choice being better than the fucking 76ers is a 'schtick'

a literal thing you think.

All is not well in Pacer land.

https://twitter.com/JonFilet/status/832422345449041920

Redgrendel2001
Sep 1, 2006

you literally think a person saying their NBA team of choice being better than the fucking 76ers is a 'schtick'

a literal thing you think.

https://twitter.com/SBNationGIF/status/832429788224696320

R.D. Mangles
Jan 10, 2004


my thoughts on the Jimmy Butler trade rumors
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Apa0nG1OfUc&t=239s

ragle
Nov 1, 2009

https://twitter.com/BillSimmons/status/832426206863560704

Niwrad
Jul 1, 2008

I bet the Bulls to win the Toronto game but forgot this game was going to be on TNT so hosed that up. 17 in a row is remarkable.

straight up brolic
Jan 31, 2007

After all, I was nice in ball,
Came to practice weed scented
Report card like the speed limit

:homebrew::homebrew::homebrew:

https://twitter.com/kofieyeboah/status/832416227410731009

Paul Zuvella
Dec 7, 2011


How the gently caress does a ref call this at the end of a game.

Dexo
Aug 15, 2009

A city that was to live by night after the wilderness had passed. A city that was to forge out of steel and blood-red neon its own peculiar wilderness.
At some point you shouldn't let a team as bad as the Bulls to still be in the game late.

Grab some loving rebounds every once in a while.

EvanTH
Apr 24, 2004

i like to express my inner pain by being really boring on the phone
or just when i'm kickin it
that's me though
i'm kind of oddddddd
someone make me a gif of Coach Brad screamin' his dang head off about how something is bull somet hing or other

R.D. Mangles
Jan 10, 2004


the perverse, mystical forces that allow the bulls to perpetuate their dumb streaks is the heart of the "pace and space" offense

Dexo
Aug 15, 2009

A city that was to live by night after the wilderness had passed. A city that was to forge out of steel and blood-red neon its own peculiar wilderness.

R.D. Mangles posted:

the perverse, mystical forces that allow the bulls to perpetuate their dumb streaks is the heart of the "pace and space" offense




brb betting my house on this game...


Also

https://twitter.com/DrewUnga/status/832419428956459008

Niwrad
Jul 1, 2008

https://twitter.com/CodyWesterlund/status/832448526890201093

chunkles
Aug 14, 2005

i am completely immersed in darkness
as i turn my body away from the sun
Speaking of corny leadership articles

http://time.com/4672996/james-harden-rule-nba/

quote:

Sitting in his office at the Toyota Center, Houston's home arena, Biles pulls out his laptop to show me a few examples. In one, Elmore extols the importance of being a thermostat who sets the temperature of the team, rather than a thermometer. Another is about the importance of "the discipline bridge," an idea that Elmore developed from seeing construction workers, after a tornado, build temporary bridges over flooded areas so they could reach houses that needed repairs. "If you're wanting to get somewhere," he says in the video, "my guarantee is that you're going to have to cross a bridge along the way, called discipline." Such talk may call to mind the Saturday Night Live self-help guru Stuart Smalley, but Harden credits the videos and sessions with Biles for helping him grow as a leader.

Harden read Tony Robbins and is now averaging 29/11/8, get on it NBA

Cool Buff Man
Jul 30, 2006

bitch

Dexo posted:

At some point you shouldn't let a team as bad as the Bulls to still be in the game late.

Grab some loving rebounds every once in a while.

They're still missing their leading rebounder and they're already one of the worst rebounding teams in the NBA but I will relay your message to grab a board once in a while through my Palm Pilot

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010

chunkles posted:

Speaking of corny leadership articles

http://time.com/4672996/james-harden-rule-nba/


Harden read Tony Robbins and is now averaging 29/11/8, get on it NBA

I'm waiting for the day when somebody who isn't already an all star reads a Tony Robbins book and it turns them into a force. Like, a Rick Brunson type or some poo poo starts putting up 20/9/4 or some poo poo

EvanTH
Apr 24, 2004

i like to express my inner pain by being really boring on the phone
or just when i'm kickin it
that's me though
i'm kind of oddddddd

chunkles posted:

Harden read Tony Robbins and is now averaging 29/11/8, get on it NBA

This type of sarcastic dismissal is basically dynamiting your own discipline bridge. Be a constructor, not a destructor! Become an entrepreneur instead of a saboteur ! Money is good

straight up brolic
Jan 31, 2007

After all, I was nice in ball,
Came to practice weed scented
Report card like the speed limit

:homebrew::homebrew::homebrew:

First We Feast did an oral investigation of NBA players fascination with Cheesecake Factory. Pretty stupid article but there are amazing quotables like Reggie Jackson talking about it as though he's in a soft core porn

http://firstwefeast.com/features/why-nba-players-love-the-cheesecake-factory/?utm_campaign=sportstw&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social

Carlosologist
Oct 13, 2013

Revelry in the Dark

:swoon: hopefully this isn't all hot air

https://twitter.com/JADubin5/status/832467902238306305

xbilkis
Apr 11, 2005

god qb
me
jay hova
There are two types of NBA players.



Doltos
Dec 28, 2005

🤌🤌🤌

21 million against the cap with nothing after that. It probably blocks him from true contenders but I can see him going to some dumb middling franchise like the Hawks.

R.D. Mangles
Jan 10, 2004


lol who would trade for derrick rose

Carlosologist
Oct 13, 2013

Revelry in the Dark

R.D. Mangles posted:

lol who would trade for derrick rose

the Knicks :downs:

xbilkis
Apr 11, 2005

god qb
me
jay hova

R.D. Mangles posted:

lol who would trade for derrick rose

He has certain...alpha qualities

R.D. Mangles
Jan 10, 2004


xbilkis posted:

He has certain...alpha qualities

are you suggesting that derrick rose could be Back (on the bulls)

leftist heap
Feb 28, 2013

Fun Shoe
A Rose trade would be unbelievable and hilarious.

Despera
Jun 6, 2011
Diabetes in a cup sounds good

chunkles
Aug 14, 2005

i am completely immersed in darkness
as i turn my body away from the sun

El Gallinero Gros posted:

I'm waiting for the day when somebody who isn't already an all star reads a Tony Robbins book and it turns them into a force. Like, a Rick Brunson type or some poo poo starts putting up 20/9/4 or some poo poo

LeBron used to be a 35 year old white office worker named Jim Barnaby before he read Awaken the Giant Within

Dejan Bimble
Mar 24, 2008

we're all black friends
Plaster Town Cop

straight up brolic posted:

First We Feast did an oral investigation of NBA players fascination with Cheesecake Factory. Pretty stupid article but there are amazing quotables like Reggie Jackson talking about it as though he's in a soft core porn

http://firstwefeast.com/features/why-nba-players-love-the-cheesecake-factory/?utm_campaign=sportstw&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social

This brings me joy


http://www.pinoyhoops.hostei.com/

http://shirt.ly/pinoyhoops

Dejan Bimble fucked around with this message at 09:16 on Feb 17, 2017

straight up brolic
Jan 31, 2007

After all, I was nice in ball,
Came to practice weed scented
Report card like the speed limit

:homebrew::homebrew::homebrew:

https://twitter.com/stephencurry30/status/832474846743326720

cornball

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straight up brolic
Jan 31, 2007

After all, I was nice in ball,
Came to practice weed scented
Report card like the speed limit

:homebrew::homebrew::homebrew:

What if everyone in this thread was an NBA player talking poo poo about all the other NBA players under the assumption that no NBA players would read this? Which Spur would Bashez be?

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