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Grand Prize Winner posted:From my dad's stories, I get the impression that the US military has books like that, but no one reads them. We don't get that luxury. I ended up the personal minion of our Kompanietruppführer (an organisational post for a Hauptfeldwebel, which would be uh a Master Sergeant in the US-Army?) and I had to read those books all the goddamn time. We got regular updates which I had to copy and paste literally into the books. And by "literally" I mean I had to take a pair of scissors and a bottle of glue and literally paste tiny strips of paper over the outdated text.  Edit: I was in the army from roughly 2004 - 2006, first as draftee, then as volunteer-draftee. So hopefully this paper-updating got a little upgrade by now, I remember the Bundeswehr starting to modernize their IT-equipment around that time. Libluini fucked around with this message at 15:08 on Feb 16, 2017 |
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VanSandman posted:I want to know about the ships that sink every day. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lp7BBfRPGds That's a static trainer in a building on land (assuming that's what "ships that sink every day" means). The instructors are watching on the cameras in the control room and can simulate just about any amount of flooding from any valve or system. There are also firefighting trainers that are engine room mock-ups, they can tell how much water you're putting where and adjust or extinguish the propane burners depending on if they think you're effectively fighting the fire. hogmartin fucked around with this message at 16:01 on Feb 16, 2017 |
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I'm trying to verify if the following story is correct, details might be off somewhat: In the Vietnam War, Lockheed Martin took a look at transport planes / helicopters returning from the field and compiled a graph of where they suffered the most hits. Then they up-armored the places that didn't show any hits because those planes were shot down, never returning to base and not showing up in their data. Any truth behind this?
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hogmartin posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lp7BBfRPGds That sounds like it would be really fun to play around with.
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Welmu posted:I'm trying to verify if the following story is correct, details might be off somewhat: Didn't this come up in this very thread with regards to airforces in WWII?
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Welmu posted:I'm trying to verify if the following story is correct, details might be off somewhat: Well it probably applies to later wars as well, but the idea originates from WW2. quote:During World War II, Wald applied his statistical skills when considering how to minimize bomber losses to enemy fire. Researchers from the Center for Naval Analyses had conducted a study of the damage done to aircraft that had returned from missions, and had recommended that armor be added to the areas that showed the most damage. Wald noted that the study only considered the aircraft that had survived their missions—the bombers that had been shot down were not present for the damage assessment. The holes in the returning aircraft, then, represented areas where a bomber could take damage and still return home safely. Wald proposed that the Navy instead reinforce the areas where the returning aircraft were unscathed, since those were the areas that, if hit, would cause the plane to be lost. This is still considered today seminal work in the then-fledgling discipline of operational research.
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Kiitokset tykistön kehittäjälle.
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Welmu posted:I'm trying to verify if the following story is correct, details might be off somewhat: WWII. They looked at bombers that came back from raids damaged, observed where the damage was, and armored the portions where the damage *wasn't*, under the rationale that planes that were hit in *those* areas didn't make it back, and the places where the planes that did make it back were damaged were less critical because that damage was being survived. That was the first time it was done, but the methodology was used in Korea and Vietnam. Here's the original paper by Abe Wald: http://www.dtic.mil/cgi-bin/GetTRDoc?Location=U2&doc=GetTRDoc.pdf&AD=ADA091073
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Libluini posted:We don't get that luxury. I ended up the personal minion of our Kompanietruppführer (an organisational post for a Hauptfeldwebel, which would be uh a Master Sergeant in the US-Army?) and I had to read those books all the goddamn time. We got regular updates which I had to copy and paste literally into the books. Not quite that bad, but helicopter operator's manuals and check lists must be updated by removing the old pages and adding the new ones. No cutting and pasting though. Also, the reserve component not being used in Vietnam led directly to the situation today where the National Guard and Army Reserve units are regularly rotated into combat theaters. There are several reasons for this. One is that National Guard troops have much closer ties to their communities, so the people in them have a more direct stake and support for the war. Another is that it's cheaper to use Guardsmen and Reservists as they are only on duty for around 40 days a year outside of their deployments (This number varies by type of unit and whether they are getting ready to deploy or not). Third, it doesn't make sense to spend a lot of money for a reserve component if it's never going to be used. After Vietnam, it was decided that either the Guard would have to play a more active role or it would be a greatly diminished and non-deployable force. There is also the fact that if you served in the Guard during Vietnam, you couldn't be drafted and your chances of being deployed were basically nil. In 1968 the Army National Guard had 389,000 members. Around 6,000 members of the Army National Guard served in Vietnam, including my uncle. After his unit came home to Iowa, almost everyone in the unit got out leaving a lot of vacancies. Men from as far away as Colorado and Chicago enlisted in this unit, which sat at around 200% strength till the Vietnam was was over. The idea was that since the unit had already been deployed, it was extra safe . Chief, National Guard Bureau FY 1968 report: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...j8d03ZA&cad=rja
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SimonCat posted:Not quite that bad, but helicopter operator's manuals and check lists must be updated by removing the old pages and adding the new ones. No cutting and pasting though.  I love these insights into how other armies work. In comparison, the German reserve force is quite boring. They meet a couple times a year to exercise and that's it. In peace time they basically don't exist. Our reserve will only ever get relevant after an actual for real declaration of war happens and we have to mobilize. I've heard stories that it was a bit more exciting duing the Cold War, due to large-scale NATO exercises happening more often, but I'm not sure if reserve forces took even part in those exercises or if I misremember things. On the Dienstvorschriften-thing, sometimes when larger parts had to be replaced, we of course also replaced pages. Or just straight-up got an entirely new version of the book. Most of the time though, it was stuff like a single sentence or word which needed to be replaced somewhere. Then it was time for scissors and glue.
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:The modern USN takes damage control way more seriously. They have schools where sailors have to learn how to do damage control under realistic conditions which are colloquially described as "ships that sink every day". I had a Royal Navy flag officer tell me in all earnesty that it was amazing and that the RN had nothing like that, and that this was a Bad Thing. I think maybe that RN guy's not very up to date, since apparently the RN does indeed have a dedicated practical damage control simulator.
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Yvonmukluk posted:I think maybe that RN guy's not very up to date, since apparently the RN does indeed have a dedicated practical damage control simulator. All hail the WATER CABINET
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chitoryu12 posted:All hail the HER MAJESTY'S WATER CABINET
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Whatever you do, don't confuse it with the water closet.
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Phanatic posted:Does the RN still have Perisher or has that gone the way of the rest of their navy? Perisher still exists but that's not nearly the same thing. VanSandman posted:I want to know about the ships that sink every day. It's a building full of replicated ship compartments and among other things that happen, they flood them to simulate a ship sinking. EDIT: Yeah, beaten by hogmartin. Vincent Van Goatse fucked around with this message at 00:21 on Feb 17, 2017 |
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Phanatic posted:Here's the original paper by Abe Wald: I'm 30 pages in and this is the nerdiest thing I've ever seen. e: tl;tr: quote:The exact solution is tedious aphid_licker fucked around with this message at 00:27 on Feb 17, 2017 |
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a japanese riot from the 1960s
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HEY GAIL posted:a japanese riot from the 1960s great color composition in this shot
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Nebakenezzer posted:great color composition in this shot
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Pretty sure that's a Ran movie
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So the rioters are using pikes while the police have legionnaire shields and short clubs? I wonder who won?
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in addition to looking cool as heck, it really is a perfect test of some of the things i think about regularly edit: look at the gloves on the pikemens' hands, these guys have thought about what they're doing
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HEY GAIL posted:a japanese riot from the 1960s This is this most amazing picture of a riot I have ever seen, I wish all protesters in my country were as organized as a tercio
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Animal posted:This is this most amazing picture of a riot I have ever seen, I wish all protesters in my country were as organized as a tercio  Mainly because they might mellow on the molotovs.
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Phanatic posted:Here's the original paper by Abe Wald: thank you thank you thank you
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HEY GAIL posted:a japanese riot from the 1960s Live action Jin Roh remake looking good
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Acebuckeye13 posted:The first thing to look up is probably the USS Forrestal disaster. The tl;dr is that it was an incident where an aircraft carrier stationed off of Vietnam suffered a devestating fire that nearly destroyed the ship, in part due to atrophied DC practices in the aftermath of World War II. The event precipitated a renewed effort in the Navy to create and sustain good DC practices, and is still used as a case study in DC training today. There's a great book on the Forrestal fire: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00188V7Y6/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1 It's just $3 on Kindle, no reason not to buy it. It's very in depth and a fantastic story of how damage control could go wrong and how it could go better. I highly recommend. As with all books I recommend, I issue my standing offer - if you buy it, read it, and feel it wasted your time, I'll paypal you the price of the book.
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IJN 12cm AA Rocket Launcher Apparently, these were installed on battleships (Yamato) and on some carriers (Unryu-class and Shokaku-class carriers, among others). quote:The Type 5 fuze would cause the rockets to burst at about 600m altitude, and a 28-rocket ripple salvo would create a cloud of these burning pellets. The Navy regarded this weapon as effective both for its visible effect and as being particularly useful against dive bombers. Rikugun: Volume 2 is a really friggin' good book if you want to see what the Japanese had on hand in WW2, including mine detectors, radios, artillery, rifles, aa directors, and more.
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And so the bullet hell genre was born.
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MikeCrotch posted:Live action Jin Roh remake looking good The movies are loving weird, but sadly don't have any riot tercios.
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Nenonen posted:And so the bullet hell genre was born. "The armament on Shinano was quite different from that of her sister vessels due to her conversion. As the carrier was designed for a support role, significant anti-aircraft weaponry was installed on the vessel: sixteen 12.7 cm (5.0 in) guns, one hundred and twenty-five 25 mm (0.98 in) anti-aircraft guns, and three hundred and thirty-six 5-inch (13 cm) anti-aircraft rocket launchers in twelve twenty-eight barrel turrets. None of these guns were ever used against an enemy vessel or aircraft." 
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i just found this threads next topic: actual book, available on kindle.
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Mycroft Holmes posted:i just found this threads next topic: dear friend, you have no idea https://www.reddit.com/r/ShitWehraboosSay/comments/4u0l74/deep_operations_trotskylvania_reviews_furred/ https://www.reddit.com/r/ShitWehraboosSay/comments/4ujtp1/deep_operations_part_zwei_trotskylvania_continues/ https://www.reddit.com/r/ShitWehraboosSay/comments/4vr2jd/deep_operations_part_3_trotskylvania_descends/ https://www.reddit.com/r/ShitWehraboosSay/comments/4yau9h/deep_operations_part_4_len_gilberts_love_note_to/ he's got a blog http://furredreichblog.com/ likes: furry porn, white power dislikes: gay people, feminists edit: he's apparently been into white power since the 90s, which would make him older than he seems edit 2: i just clicked on the second link and there's graphic descriptions of rape in which the victim is blamed for "enjoying it," if you have ptsd watch out HEY GUNS fucked around with this message at 11:53 on Feb 17, 2017 |
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Mycroft Holmes posted:i just found this threads next topic: The Nazis were against race mixing fortunately, she's a whole 'nother species 
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4/5 posted:The plot is about a world of furries being invaded by an army of troll like monsters called Grimeskins. (spoilers) the Grimeskins need women and that's why they're invading and raping all the furries. So someone somewhere comes up with the idea to teleport Nazis from earth to fight these invaders. Ah, of course.  Apparently he's inspired by The Forgotten Soldier. Fangz fucked around with this message at 12:49 on Feb 17, 2017 |
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Get that pathetic poo poo out of here ASAP.Libluini posted:We don't get that luxury. I ended up the personal minion of our Kompanietruppführer (an organisational post for a Hauptfeldwebel, which would be uh a Master Sergeant in the US-Army?) and I had to read those books all the goddamn time. We got regular updates which I had to copy and paste literally into the books. I don't know about NATO equivalent, but the Hauptfeldwebel is a First Sergeant in the USA 
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Doing a Google image search for that lead to a side-result of learning about Savitri Devi and her book "The Lightning and the Sun", written in 1958 and dedicated to "To the god-like Individual of our times; the Man against Time; the greatest European of all times; both Sun and Lightning: Adolf Hitler, as a tribute of unfailing love and loyalty, for ever and ever."
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