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Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"
Their cover of Everybody Wants to Rule the World is a terrible horrible thing you shouldn't watch because you see Ninja Brian take off his mask and make the world a little less magical for doing so :sigh:.

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Dongicus
Jun 12, 2015

DStecks posted:

This is gonna be an excellent discussion, seeing as it's opened with somebody bringing up a talking point that only people in the absolute dregs of the internet talk about.

I mean, Dongicus, I don't want to start accusing you of being an Internet Shitheel, but you kinda just pulled the internet equivalent of asking a question about Chappaquiddick. If it's something you've even heard of, you probably heard it from a very bad place.

I don't really care if you throw some internet compound word insult at me. I just wanted to confirm that this weirdo found it cool to download a bunch of child porn, censor it, then put it on his blog.

Dongicus fucked around with this message at 00:54 on Feb 17, 2017

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow

Dongicus posted:

I don't really care if you throw some internet compound word insult at me. I just wanted to confirm that this weirdo found it cool to download a bunch of child porn, censor it, then put it on his blog.

The answer lies in the basement of comet pizza

watho
Aug 2, 2013


The real world will, again tomorrow, function and run without me.

Please stop posting, you damaged pathetic creep

Dongicus
Jun 12, 2015

The Vosgian Beast posted:

The answer lies in the basement of comet pizza

I was just wondering if it was true.

watho posted:

Please stop posting, you damaged pathetic creep

lol

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow

Dongicus posted:

I was just wondering if it was true.

There's actually a really good well-researched article on this that really lays the truth bare. Do you have an updog account? I can link it to you there

BigRed0427
Mar 23, 2007

There's no one I'd rather be than me.

The Vosgian Beast posted:

There's actually a really good well-researched article on this that really lays the truth bare. Do you have an updog account? I can link it to you there

I forget, where did he post that anyway?

LFK
Jan 5, 2013

BigRed0427 posted:

I forget, where did he post that anyway?

Medium

https://medium.com/@FoldableHuman/the-mods-are-always-asleep-7f750f879fc#.ahkpcnaal

somekindofguy
Mar 9, 2011
Grimey Drawer
I dunno how true it is. I know he didn't get arrested for whatever he did. Or at least I think KiA would endlessly crow about it. Sorry to say I don't have much more than that at the moment.

Dongicus
Jun 12, 2015

Oh its a gamergate thing? Aids.

Leal
Oct 2, 2009
So how did that person not get arrested for intentionally looking for that stuff?

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow

BigRed0427 posted:

I forget, where did he post that anyway?

NOTHING MUCH WHAT'S UP WITH YOU ah that doesn't even work

LFK
Jan 5, 2013

Leal posted:

So how did that person not get arrested for intentionally looking for that stuff?

Because the law isn't enforced by blind magical omnipotent computers.

Also Canada has a variety of exemptions in the law to protect journalists, law enforcement, scientists, educators, and others working in the interest of the public good, otherwise the forum/FaceBook/Twitter/Reddit moderator who's job (paid or unpaid) is to find and delete this stuff would be just as guilty as the person who posted it in the first place.

The system doesn't even have the resources to go after known shitholes like the chans, why would it waste time on a whistleblower?

The law is poo poo and cops are awful, but it's not complete poo poo and they're not completely awful.

lornekates
Oct 3, 2014

Web Developer for phelous.com dot com.

Leal posted:

So how did that person not get arrested for intentionally looking for that stuff?

"Looking for"?

The entire point of Dan's article is that there was no "looking for". It was right there, in the open. It isn't even a "known secret" it's just-- known.

And it isn't being moderated. Even though people will claim "oh it totally isn't there, it's being moderated".

That's-- that's kinda the entire premise of the article.

...

like, seriously.

DStecks
Feb 6, 2012

Dongicus posted:

I don't really care if you throw some internet compound word insult at me. I just wanted to confirm that this weirdo found it cool to download a bunch of child porn, censor it, then put it on his blog.

OK awesome, total shithead confirmed.

Leal
Oct 2, 2009

lornekates posted:

"Looking for"?

The entire point of Dan's article is that there was no "looking for". It was right there, in the open. It isn't even a "known secret" it's just-- known.

And it isn't being moderated. Even though people will claim "oh it totally isn't there, it's being moderated".

That's-- that's kinda the entire premise of the article.

...

like, seriously.

I just thought if you looked at the stuff, even ironically or you intended to get caught or w/e, you get a law enforcement agent sent to your house.

E: Like I'm not insulting the guy or saying he should be locked up reporting it, I'm just genuinely curious cause I thought child porn was one of the biggest no-nos in the world.

Leal fucked around with this message at 06:39 on Feb 17, 2017

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth
this is some weird 'if a cop buys drugs from you in a sting then he has to go to jail for buying drugs' thing.

He wasn't 'looking for' it, the point was it's just out in the open and the people there will happily show it to you.

I mean, yea, if you claim you were 'ironically' looking at child porn that won't work, but if you're a journalist saying 'uh there's a lot of child porn here' you're not somehow in trouble for seeing the child porn

lornekates
Oct 3, 2014

Web Developer for phelous.com dot com.

DStecks posted:

OK awesome, total shithead confirmed.

"Uhg, those weirdo Boston Globe reporters from 2003 just wanted to dress up like priests and diddle kids."

:/

Tired Moritz
Mar 25, 2012

wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

(n o i c e)
all those FBIs members who have to trawl to look for child porn sites immediately goes to jail after.

cat doter
Jul 27, 2006



gonna need more cheese...australia has a lot of crackers

Leal posted:

I just thought if you looked at the stuff, even ironically or you intended to get caught or w/e, you get a law enforcement agent sent to your house.

E: Like I'm not insulting the guy or saying he should be locked up reporting it, I'm just genuinely curious cause I thought child porn was one of the biggest no-nos in the world.

collection, distribution, solicitation, those are the illegal parts, not just happening to have seen it

I mean I get it, it all feels weird and stuff, but researching that stuff for an article is in no way a crime

Mischalaniouse
Nov 7, 2009

*ribbit*
Please forgive me for posting a TotalBiscuit video, but I just had to share for the first 10 seconds because its just... like, peak TotalBiscuit. It is the most TotalBiscuity TotalBiscuit has ever been.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ha0IAGk2gxg&t=10s

Edit: wrong link.

Tarquinn
Jul 3, 2007

I know I’ve made some very poor decisions recently, but I can give you
my complete assurance that my work will be back to normal.
Hell Gem
Why do most goons seem to hate TB so much?

Are there any good reasons besides his decade old stupid post here (no need to link it again; everyone, including TB, knows it's bad) and his cancer tweet for which lethal irony bit him in the rear end for?

cat doter
Jul 27, 2006



gonna need more cheese...australia has a lot of crackers

Tarquinn posted:

Why do most goons seem to hate TB so much?

Are there any good reasons besides his decade old stupid post here (no need to link it again; everyone, including TB, knows it's bad) and his cancer tweet for which lethal irony bit him in the rear end for?

he's a big dumbass that says dumb poo poo, it's not a big mystery

Tarquinn
Jul 3, 2007

I know I’ve made some very poor decisions recently, but I can give you
my complete assurance that my work will be back to normal.
Hell Gem

cat doter posted:

he's a big dumbass that says dumb poo poo, it's not a big mystery

While I don't agree with everything he says, I did not get that impression. Got any examples? Genuinely curious here.

Alaois
Feb 7, 2012

someone find his old post on here, I don't have search

cat doter
Jul 27, 2006



gonna need more cheese...australia has a lot of crackers

Tarquinn posted:

While I don't agree with everything he says, I did not get that impression. Got any examples? Genuinely curious here.

I'm sure someone else could expand on it since I'm lazy, but he's just said a bunch of dumb poo poo during the "gamer incident" and made really idiotic moves like the framerate police thing (god that was asinine) on top of just being kind of an rear end in a top hat in general

obviously if you like the guy, who cares I'm not gonna have a go at anyone for that, but he's really good at putting his foot in his mouth, which is why he rubs people the wrong way, he's just arrogant and kind of a dummy, a bad combo

Tarquinn
Jul 3, 2007

I know I’ve made some very poor decisions recently, but I can give you
my complete assurance that my work will be back to normal.
Hell Gem

cat doter posted:

I'm sure someone else could expand on it since I'm lazy, but he's just said a bunch of dumb poo poo during the "gamer incident" and made really idiotic moves like the framerate police thing (god that was asinine) on top of just being kind of an rear end in a top hat in general

obviously if you like the guy, who cares I'm not gonna have a go at anyone for that, but he's really good at putting his foot in his mouth, which is why he rubs people the wrong way, he's just arrogant and kind of a dummy, a bad combo

Thanks.

I am not here to defend TB's honor or something, I am just curious why my perception of him seems so different from the apparent goon consensus. Maybe I am a dummy too, who knows.

Terrible Opinions
Oct 18, 2013



Tarquinn posted:

While I don't agree with everything he says, I did not get that impression. Got any examples? Genuinely curious here.
He's not like complete human garbage. He just responds in a whiny way to everything so it makes even the nerdiest goon want to give him a swirly.

cat doter
Jul 27, 2006



gonna need more cheese...australia has a lot of crackers

Tarquinn posted:

Thanks.

I am not here to defend TB's honor or something, I am just curious why my perception of him seems so different from the apparent goon consensus. Maybe I am a dummy too, who knows.

nah man you're in a good position, get out before this poo poo poisons your brain too

BravestOfTheLamps
Oct 12, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Lipstick Apathy
I come to dogpile TB, not to praise him.

SteelMentor
Oct 15, 2012

TOXIC
I watched TB back when he started covering WoW: Cataclysm, which was the catalsyt for dragging me kicking and screaming back into Blizzard's hands.

I always thought his attitude was just a gimmick like Yahtzee, but after that drama where he swore off Blizzard games 4 EVA over... Blizzard making older content a mite bit easier for the 99% of people who aren't world first raiders I just clocked out on him.
His attitude through the entire thing was peak TB smugness and was super off putting, finding out he'd been carried through the content he was apparently so vehemently against being nerfed and him jumping on the SC2 commentry bandwagon were just icing on the cake.

And tbh, I can live in a world where every video doesn't start with 20mins of jerking off in the options.

Insurrectionist
May 21, 2007
Leaving his content and person aside, a lot of TB's videos are offensively long. Yeah sometimes you want to show an hour's worth of gameplay sure, but does a 'talking about videogames thing' video really need to be 45 minutes? When the other, actually good talking mans like Super Bunnyhop or whatever don't even need 10?

He should hire a (better) editor.

MariusLecter
Sep 5, 2009

NI MUERTE NI MIEDO
His content would vastly improve if he wasn't a humungous pretentious douche tho.

ZeeBoi
Jan 17, 2001

TB is a long-winded PC MASTER RACE douchecanoe that stands up for the "consumer". Jim Sterling is more effective in that regard than Mr. I'm-gonna-sperg-about-game-settings.

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth
yea even if you take away his lovely parts in The Drama That Must Not Be Named and his PC Master Race bullshit that you can argue is a bit and all, he's still just a pretentious douchebag who spends an hour whining that the game he's playing doesn't have the Correct Slider Count and taking a view of consumer activism that's 100% based in petty "BUT I WANT IT MORE BETTER" number tallying rather than, say, Sterling's view of 'stop loving us and maybe stop letting them gently caress us, both of us need to do better here'.

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth
Basially I once saw a photoshop of that meme from Harry Potter of Dudley being angry that he only got 47 presents when he got 48 last birthday, and they put a top hat on him and changed 'presents' to 'sliders' and that summed up everything I dislike about TB just as a pure objective reviewer and not even taking personality in.

LFK
Jan 5, 2013
My experience was similar to SteelMentor. I used to listen to BluePlz pretty regularly, until I started to realize that he didn't know what the hell he was talking about. He was constantly going to bat for awful design choices, misunderstanding the impact of changes, and basically endlessly bitching about any decision that didn't make the game even more narrowly catered to hardcore elitism. Basically after years and years of playing the game he still didn't understand how people actually played the game, and rather than advocating for one gameplay style (a fair enough thing to do in a game as broad as WoW) he'd constantly present hardcore top tier progression raiding as The One True Way To Play and trash on anyone who disagreed. Once, I wanna say this was around Ulduar nerfs, there was a big back and forth where he went on a huge anti-casual rant about old content being nerfed or maybe it was the buy-old-tiers-with-raid-points thing, something that let behind-the-curve players significantly catch up (he went on a lot of these rants, basically any episode in 2010 will have at least one) but anyway a fan responded saying he had ALS and physically can't play competitively enough to do a lot of the stuff pre-nerf, and TB's response was basically "oh, well, uh, sorry to hear that, find a guild to carry you, or wait for next expansion."

Basically he and Kripparrian are the team captains for every rear end in a top hat ranting about "filthy casuals" on forums across the internet.

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

How did Kripparian get lobbed into this? :saddowns:

Deport The Irish
Nov 25, 2013

Insurrectionist posted:

Leaving his content and person aside, a lot of TB's videos are offensively long. Yeah sometimes you want to show an hour's worth of gameplay sure, but does a 'talking about videogames thing' video really need to be 45 minutes? When the other, actually good talking mans like Super Bunnyhop or whatever don't even need 10?

He should hire a (better) editor.

This sums up why I don't like him. I remember trying to watch one of his list videos and it took 20 full minutes of rambling, repetitive introduction before he even mentioned the first thing on his list. I couldn't tell you anything about the quality of his content because, gently caress, I have things to get done today.

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PenguinKnight
Apr 6, 2009

sometimes i find the things complained about just being silly. like every game apparently needs sliders to make it look like quake projected through a 5 mile long tunnel or something :shurg:


like there's accessibility options and options for if you want to be an MLG PRO GAMER WEED420xXxGoku, and then there's TB videos when he gets to the options

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