The MSJ posted:

http://i.imgur.com/t0czVUu.mp4

The MSJ posted:

LORD OF BOOTY posted:

Are they planning on revealing what in the absolute holy balls the Nazi Buckingham Palace stuff has to do with anything, or will we have to wait until release date to see what the hell that's all about?

Snowman_McK posted:

I hope not. I hope it still makes no sense on multiple rewatches. I hope we just randomly cut to Nazis exploding for a few minutes.

SuperMechagodzilla posted:

Transformers is the first film in Megatron's arc, where he is 'just' a totalitarian. The point is absolutely that he is equally bad as Optimus, but worse at marketing himself.

To be clear: Megatron is not a true good guy until partways through Episode 3, though he remains the underdog throughout the series.

UmOk posted:

How is he the underdog in the first one?

SuperMechagodzilla posted:

Like, in the basic sense that he's an escaped science experiment up against the combined forces of the entire United States and Prime's autobots.

General Battuta posted:

Remember that time a transformer ripped his own soul out so his body could be cannibalized to make wings for Optimus Prime.

General Battuta posted:

Remember that time a transformer ripped his own soul out so his body could be cannibalized to make wings for Optimus Prime.

Rhyno posted:

Wings that fell off five minutes later.

Milky Moor posted:

Which weren't even picked up when Optimus decided he needed wings again in the third film.

Rhyno posted:

I mean, it's possible they built his trailer out of Jetfire's corpse right?

ungulateman posted:

plot twist: optimus prime devours them for sustenance

SirDrone posted:

Can a fine Cinema Discusso Analyst please tell me the importance of the shot where a giant robot scorpion emerges out of nowhere and tears off a old guy's chest.

SirDrone posted:

Can a fine Cinema Discusso Analyst please tell me the importance of the shot where a giant robot scorpion emerges out of nowhere and tears off a old guy's chest.

SirDrone posted:

Can a fine Cinema Discusso Analyst please tell me the importance of the shot where a giant robot scorpion emerges out of nowhere and tears off a old guy's chest.

General Battuta posted:

I'm pretty sure the scorpion is chasing them because they took a picture or saw too much, right? And it's defeated by the air support they call in by cell phone while hiding in a village? And there's some kind of subplot about the decepticons tapping military networks. There's all sorts of poo poo about the inversion of American power. Kind of makes sense in a movie where the villains want to awaken our machines and products.

By the end of the fourth one Megatron has been re-manufactured as a product by a corporation, complete with iannic chest hole to devour and break Optimus' sword. I wonder what that means

Gatts posted:

It's gonna end with Unicron and the next one will have Primus. Two planet sized Tranformer Gods fighting it out.

I'd have loved to see a well done Fortress Maximus and Autobot City hold off a world invasion.

Mr. Unlucky posted:

this thread is a solid case for movies not being art.

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Let’s return to Megatron, because this scene is one of those that have shown an important progression throughout the trilogy. Let’s take a closer look at Megatron’s actual design.

I’ll be using the toys for this, because the designers of the smaller toys actually knew what they were doing, and exaggerated a lot of very subtle design cues present in the movie models to be more clearly visible.



The first movie’s Megatron is nothing short of angelic. In his big shot in the first movie, he had an actual halo and was surrounded by clouds – and his toy actually adds literal wings. He’s hardly the friendly image of a Renaissance angel, but then again, neither is the actual Metatron, who is described as “a pillar of fire with 36 wings and innumerable eyes”. In a sense, first movie Megatron presents a mixture of a Renaissance angel, a biblical angel, a skeleton and the usual spiky, monstrous look of the Decepticons. His altmode, meanwhile, does not resemble anything – it’s a completely utilitarian flight mode. Even his head is still visible, crowned atop the unusual form.



The second film’s Megatron presents a strange departure from this. After his unnatural marriage with Scrapper, who has become a pair of massive, weighty, treaded feet, all of the elegance of his original form was lost. Megatron 2 is bulky, clumsy, and does not have a hint of the angelic – notice, while the core shape is not too dissimilar, his wings are gone. Even his altmode is now this curled-up, turtle-like thing that looks more like him retreating into a shell than an actual spacecraft. His head is still visible, but now it’s crouched below, as though he was trying to hide it away. He looks almost scared, which is only too fitting, considering the second time he transformed, it was during the Airstrike at the end of the movie. Even the gleaming icy silver-blue has been replaced by a much more muted colour, here for some reason represented by bright green. Megatron 2 is the very image of a fallen angel, clipped wings and darkened heart. However, the bony image from before has gone away in favour of a much more muscular build – more than just being a pair of legs, Scrapper’s parts have given Megs a much more workmanlike appearance in general.
But then there’s another odd little detail... His hips appear to have widened, while his shoulders and waist narrowed. Huh?



And then we get to DOTM. Finally, Megatron is forced to adopt an actual earth mode – not for ideological reasons or politeness, but simply because he actually has to hide. He wears a tarp over his head and shoulder, a sort of second layer of cloth – but again, for purely utilitarian reasons, simply to protect his grievous wounds from the elements. He’s rusted and gnarly, and having an earthmode, his head has completely disappeared from the alt-mode’s appearance. And, well.
He’s a truck. He ended up choosing nearly the same alt-mode as his nemesis, the man who instigated his murder, Optimus Prime. But in spite of taking on the same symbol, it means something very different this time. After all, Optimus’ truck mode is a lie – he’s not a blue collar worker of any sort. But Megatron? Well, remember, he still carries Scrapper’s remains with him – in a sense, he has become a Constructicon himself. In that sense, his truck mode is every bit as genuine as all the other Decepticons’ uniforms - well, all others except Soundwave. Megatron has allowed himself one little lie, however – in his self-loathing desire to paint himself an unapproachable and amoral, he took on the form of an oil tanker. But it’s not fossil fuel he transports, not a substance mired in death and misery – but food, life.
And this is where things go a little nuts. Notice, his hips have widened even further, while his shoulders and waist became even thinner. Although he has become even more obviously muscular, his body steeled by its constant punishment, he now has an actual bizarre hourglass figure. He’s staying at home, raising and caring for his children, while Soundwave and Starscream are out doing things. Megatron has been feminized – again, remember the transgender/intersex imagery of Devastator, whose legacy Megatron carries. He’s also a Mack truck – the same company that made Mixmaster’s alt mode, whose logo is a dog – so now Megatron has officially, fully become a bitch.
In fact, if we take another look at his movie model, we can also see ano





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UmOk posted:

Finally got around to re-watching Revenge of the Fallen. I hated it when I first saw it but now I think it might be the best of the series. It's like the Bible with robomen.

Ostiosis posted:

I love all the unique designs on the robots

Ostiosis posted:

I love all the unique designs on the robots, and stuff like Optimus leaving out "This is not your planet to rule" when he plays back "The fallen will rise again."

Did Terry ever post anything about Age of Extinction? I love that the beginning of AOE mirrors ROTF, only the government agency is executing an Autobot instead of a Decepticon, and how in the beginning in Cade's garage Optimus mirrors Megatron down to the damaged face, and he's using Megatrons gun. Also, most of the remaining Autobots seem to absolutely hate each other.

"I'm a fat ballerina who takes scalps and slits throats!"