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Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

Me crush ass to dust

I hate The Last Boy Scout. Shane Black's most misogynistic script, terrible acting, terrible action, and the cinematography looks like 80s grey puke.

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Fashionable Jorts
Jan 18, 2010

Maybe if I'm busy it could keep me from you



Ytlaya posted:

But isn't American objectively one of the hardest working developed nations on the planet? Like, don't Americans work longer hours than workers in other first world/developed nations (aside from maybe Japan or South Korea)?

And yet due to hatred of unions and other dirty socialist ideals, the income disparity is some of the highest of any first world nation.

Sentient Data
Aug 31, 2011

My molecule scrambler ray will disintegrate your armor with one blow!
Unions are obsolete since management has an ~~open door policy~~

Fashionable Jorts
Jan 18, 2010

Maybe if I'm busy it could keep me from you



Sentient Data posted:

Unions are obsolete since management has an ~~open door policy~~

As in the door to exit the company is open to you, feel free to use it if you think for a second the boss values your labour?

Aramek
Dec 22, 2007

Cutest tumor in all of Oncology!
It turns out that Americans, maybe all people everywhere, are just begging for a strong and authoritative leader to tell them what to think and how to feel. Right wing assholes are just the only ones stepping up to that plate right now, and now we're wading in their poo poo because their ideas are poo.

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


D&D is the most garbage forum I have ever seen. I don't know if that's a popular or unpopular opinion.

Aramek
Dec 22, 2007

Cutest tumor in all of Oncology!
It wouldn't be so bad if they weren't all sad sacks.

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


It's the forum equivalent of those YouTube videos right wingers post of dumb woke college kids to try and make liberals look bad.

Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

veni veni veni posted:

D&D is the most garbage forum I have ever seen. I don't know if that's a popular or unpopular opinion.
I don't think it's an unpopular opinion at least.

hawowanlawow
Jul 27, 2009

GBS is worse

The election ruined that forum

oldpainless
Oct 30, 2009

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No D&D is still worse

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Sentient Data posted:

Unions are obsolete since management has an ~~open door policy~~

Only in a literally failed state.

Field Mousepad
Mar 21, 2010
BAE

Hot Smart ARYAN Girl posted:

GBS is worse

The election ruined that forum

Gbs was awesome until they decided not to enforce any of the forum rules there a few years back.

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

Me crush ass to dust

I think the rules made the forums dead or something. Dead and gay.

hawowanlawow
Jul 27, 2009

Field Mousepad posted:

Gbs was awesome until they decided not to enforce any of the forum rules there a few years back.

no, it was at its worst then. There was about six months after the rules were lifted that it was good. Then it got swarmed by super bitter old right wing gen xers trying to stir poo poo

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

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You can at least express a difference in opinion with out catching a ban/probation in GBS. D&D and all its subforums are just echo chambers where any conflicting opinion gets shouted down with in seconds. I agree with a lot of the popular opinions over there, but gently caress posting in that cesspit.

spit on my clit
Jul 19, 2015

by Cyrano4747

veni veni veni posted:

D&D is the most garbage forum I have ever seen. I don't know if that's a popular or unpopular opinion.

if you say it in D&D it's an unpopular opinion, if you say it anywhere else it's an extremely popular opinion

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


Solice Kirsk posted:

You can at least express a difference in opinion with out catching a ban/probation in GBS. D&D and all its subforums are just echo chambers where any conflicting opinion gets shouted down with in seconds. I agree with a lot of the popular opinions over there, but gently caress posting in that cesspit.

Yes. Seriously. I ventured in there for the first time in like a decade and couldn't believe the innocuous poo poo people were getting long rear end probations for and even scored one myself for literally nothing.

It's just a pure circle jerk of out of touch weirdos.

Das Boo
Jun 9, 2011

There was a GHOST here.
It's gone now.
D&D is a lesson in echo chambers on fast forward.

You Are A Werewolf
Apr 26, 2010

Black Gold!

Field Mousepad posted:

You do know that the movie was made in the 80s right?

... yeah, that's why I said it so. It's just so dated and terrible to listen to, and I like '80s music (*insert dated and terrible joke about '80s music here*).

Owl Inspector
Sep 14, 2011

I haven't read much D&D so I don't know how it compares, but I stopped reading E/N awhile ago because it was full of the most awful, callous people I ever saw on the forums. People getting blamed for everything bad that happened to them regardless of whether it was their fault, nonstop lovely edgy jokes about people in awful abusive situations, mods who didn't care about people walking into threads for minorities and openly but "ironically" saying that they should kill themselves, the likes. It was the worst hive of edgelords I've bothered to expose myself to.

Aesop Poprock
Oct 21, 2008


Grimey Drawer

spit on my clit posted:

alright keep posting

Chiddy Bang isn't awful

You Are A Werewolf
Apr 26, 2010

Black Gold!

SPAM is not as gross as people make it out to be. It's salty as hell, but otherwise makes for good breakfast fixins every now and again.

Treet is better, though, and a hell of a lot cheaper.

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SPAM is good for exactly two (2) slices.

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

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I had never had scrapple until my buddy introduced me to it. I think pan fried in butter with a little bit of jelly on it is one of the best breakfast meats to exist. Right up there with thick slices of honey ham with red eye gravy.

Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

Solice Kirsk posted:

You can at least express a difference in opinion with out catching a ban/probation in GBS. D&D and all its subforums are just echo chambers where any conflicting opinion gets shouted down with in seconds. I agree with a lot of the popular opinions over there, but gently caress posting in that cesspit.

I can only think of several times (if that) that people have gotten probated/banned for posting opinions that weren't super obviously terrible.

I generally like D&D's moderation, because if dumb, dishonest arguments weren't cracked down on to some extent it would end up the exact same as almost every other political discussion on the internet. If you let some dumb right winger post stuff everyone else will reply to them trying to explain why they're wrong, and this derails threads. And even then, people don't get probated/banned just for having bad opinions; that only happens if they 1. try to argue those opinions and are repeatedly dishonest/disingenuous while doing so or 2. have opinions that are so bad they cross over into explicit bigotry. There is some mild bias, but it only manifests in the sense that some dumb left-wing people aren't probated when dumb right-wing people would be for the same level of posting, and the problem there is that the former aren't also being probated, not that the latter are.

A good example is this poster asdf-something. He is clearly to the right of most posters in D&D economically, but he doesn't get probated/banned because his arguments aren't transparently stupid or dishonest. There was also this kinda dumb guy "just asking questions" about feminism in some other thread, but he didn't get probated because he wasn't being transparently bigoted. If you really feel the need to express your right-wing views, there are a million other places on the internet you can do so (or even in this forum, I think; aren't TFR and GiP comparatively right-wing?). I think it's a good thing to have a discussion forum where threads don't constantly get derailed by idiots talking about how All Lives Matter or whatever. D&D certainly has problems, but being over-moderated is not one of those problems.

So I guess my unpopular forums-related opinion is that D&D is pretty good, and that the problems it has have nothing to do with being over-moderated or "too PC" or whatever.

zh1
Dec 21, 2010

by Smythe
all the good d&d posters were banned for criticizing obama/the military/capitalism years ago, the forum is dead as gently caress and shouldn't be read by anyone

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"
how about you just stop reading poo poo you apparently don't like and leave the people to their own conversations

Blue Star
Feb 18, 2013

by FactsAreUseless

starkebn posted:

how about you just stop reading poo poo you apparently don't like and leave the people to their own conversations

make me, bitch

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"

Blue Star posted:

make me, bitch

why are you trying to tear this dead gay forum apart with your hate?

:emo:

spit on my clit
Jul 19, 2015

by Cyrano4747

A forum called "debate and discussion" should have debate and discussion. debating and discussing usually has people on both sides of the topic discussing their thoughts on it, but not in D&D. it is an echo chamber.

I recall a mod thread made about it with the contents of the op being "stop banning people for disagreeing you dumb fucks its called debate and discussion for a reason" and then they got shouted down by the local posters for about a hundred pages.

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"

spit on my clit posted:

A forum called "debate and discussion" should have debate and discussion. debating and discussing usually has people on both sides of the topic discussing their thoughts on it, but not in D&D. it is an echo chamber.

I recall a mod thread made about it with the contents of the op being "stop banning people for disagreeing you dumb fucks its called debate and discussion for a reason" and then they got shouted down by the local posters for about a hundred pages.

okay, but I read some politics threads in there which are fine so :shrug: plenty of other sub forums which are a circle jerk too. I'm not worried about it, I'm just not sure why you have such a strong opinion

Aesop Poprock
Oct 21, 2008


Grimey Drawer

spit on my clit posted:

A forum called "debate and discussion" should have debate and discussion. debating and discussing usually has people on both sides of the topic discussing their thoughts on it, but not in D&D. it is an echo chamber.

I recall a mod thread made about it with the contents of the op being "stop banning people for disagreeing you dumb fucks its called debate and discussion for a reason" and then they got shouted down by the local posters for about a hundred pages.

There are plenty of right wing posters in D&D who don't get shouted down. Have you even read any threads there in like the past 5 years?

You Are A Werewolf
Apr 26, 2010

Black Gold!

Solice Kirsk posted:

I had never had scrapple until my buddy introduced me to it. I think pan fried in butter with a little bit of jelly on it is one of the best breakfast meats to exist. Right up there with thick slices of honey ham with red eye gravy.

Hell yeah :respek:. I just had scrapple for the first time a month ago, having heard about it from an acquaintance from Pennsylvania. Tried it on a lark and it's awesome with eggs and toast.


oldpainless posted:

SPAM is good for exactly two (2) slices.

Exactly right. SPAM is salty, that's why I prefer Treet. It actually tastes like ham and has less sodium. Throw it on an English muffin with runny yolk eggs and man.

doverhog
May 31, 2013

Defender of democracy and human rights 🇺🇦
The European politics thread and the map thread are in D&D and they are fine, so maybe you should avoid threads that are garbage and stop crying about the whole sub-forum.

hawowanlawow
Jul 27, 2009

B-b-but dishonest bullshit makes me feel good!

JnnyThndrs
May 29, 2001

HERE ARE THE FUCKING TOWELS

You Are A Elf posted:

SPAM is not as gross as people make it out to be. It's salty as hell, but otherwise makes for good breakfast fixins every now and again.

It's good sliced thin and cooked in a frying pan, but fairly disgusting otherwise, and a little goes a long way(kinda like bacon, the current bacon-everything craze notwithstanding)

yeah I eat ass
Mar 14, 2005

only people who enjoy my posting can replace this avatar
The only unappetizing thing to me about it is that it's from a can. Other than that it's just like any other processed ham-like precooked meat.

It's definitely better cooked than cold though, I couldn't imagine eating it on a sandwich like deli ham.

silence_kit
Jul 14, 2011

by the sex ghost

Ytlaya posted:

A good example is this poster asdf-something. He is clearly to the right of most posters in D&D economically, but he doesn't get probated/banned because his arguments aren't transparently stupid or dishonest.

There are a few great progressive posters on the forum, but alongside those posters, there are a tonne of white noise progressive posters who post a bunch of garbage.

asdf32 posts much better than the white noise progressive posters on the forum and receives more probations than the average D&Der. There is safety in numbers. asdf32 isn't really that conservative in the grand scheme of things, but in D&D he is fringe.

Edit: e.g., if you read the abortion thread on D&D now, you will see that it consists of 100% pro-choice posters, some of which are entertaining arguments about kind of thorny ethical issues related to abortion. Alongside them are a few posters who are getting really upset that any sort of argument is happening at all, aren't really engaging the posts in the thread, and instead are just copy-pasting pro-choice advocacy group advertising copy.

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Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

I think there's viewpoints that are actually totally fine to entirely dismiss as horrible and incorrect and arguing them over and over on the internet is boring, specially when there's so many other issues that don't have as clear answers that can be talked about. But super basic poo poo like "is racism good?" is a settled issue with anyone worth discussion with and I'm fine being in an "echo chamber" where outspoken racists, or sexists, or homophobes get shut down so actually interesting discussions hopefully a level or two above "youtube comment arguments" can happen.

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