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Trast posted:Anything would be better than the DA:I squad AI. They were flinging themselves into death. In Mass Effect you normally only had to baby sit the squishies. The snipers or techs sat back and flung powers. Of course you could do it the easiest way and just pick Grunt so he could run hog wild.
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Halloween Jack posted:Looks like they're simplifying what abilities can detonate each other. Yeah, it looks like its become just 'primers' and 'detonators' instead of all the crazy edge cases of tech combos/biotic combos you had in ME3. I am a bit sad Warp can't set up a combo to set off with Throw anymore though. That was always satisfying as hell.
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It would've been nice to have 3-person combos every now and then. Weren't the tech combos and biotics combos still just "primers" and "detonators"? What would be different between ME3 and Andromeda here?
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So I can play a novaguard with a hammer in this right? That's where the "no class" thing is leading to?
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Feb 17, 2017 20:41
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Drifter posted:It would've been nice to have 3-person combos every now and then. The new system is simpler and explained to the player much more simply.
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Groetgaffel posted:Pretty sure ME1 Garrus was even more suicidal than anyone in Inquisition. Save maybe Iron Bull. I gave Garrus every possible upgrade to his defenses and let him snipe from someplace far away from me. Drifter posted:It would've been nice to have 3-person combos every now and then.  Halloween Jack fucked around with this message at 20:44 on Feb 17, 2017 |
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Feb 17, 2017 20:42
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My favorite move in ME 2&3 was pulling in a bunch of dudes with Singularity and then hitting them with whatever the Explode power was and watching them ragdoll all over the place. If I can still do that I'll be very happy.
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Hobo Clown posted:My favorite move in ME 2&3 was pulling in a bunch of dudes with Singularity and then hitting them with whatever the Explode power was and watching them ragdoll all over the place. If I can still do that I'll be very happy. Detonations were definitely a highlight of the series. Right up there with lifting someone in zero-g and then throwing them out into deep space. Combos in ME 3 just felt so good. The sound and visual effects on them were outstanding.
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Feb 17, 2017 20:54
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Do we have any idea what they're doing in terms of party member classes? From the description Liam seems to be an Engineer, but Cora could be either an Adept or a Vanguard based on the descriptions I've been given. Was this information ever released or are we still in the dark?
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Feb 17, 2017 20:56
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Skippy McPants posted:Detonations were definitely a highlight of the series. Right up there with lifting someone in zero-g and then throwing them out into deep space. Lift to remove gravity, angle a lash above them to hurl them into the air, Slam to chaos dunk them back to earth.
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RBA Starblade posted:So I can play a novaguard with a hammer in this right? That's where the "no class" thing is leading to? We've had it all wrong. "No class" is just how Bioware describes itself these days..
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Captain Oblivious posted:Do we have any idea what they're doing in terms of party member classes? From the description Liam seems to be an Engineer, but Cora could be either an Adept or a Vanguard based on the descriptions I've been given. Was this information ever released or are we still in the dark? They're more fluid it looks like. Cora explicitly is all about Charging though, so she's pretty clearly a Vanguard.
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Zore posted:They're more fluid it looks like. Cora explicitly is all about Charging though, so she's pretty clearly a Vanguard.
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Zore posted:They're more fluid it looks like. Cora explicitly is all about Charging though, so she's pretty clearly a Vanguard. Cora- Vanguard Liam- Engineer Drack- Soldier Nyx- Sentinel Peebe- Adept Jaal- Infiltrator
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Vetra Nyx is the Turian squadmate.
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Drifter posted:Is nyx the salarian? No Salarian squaddie, they apparently cut him in development (the assets were repurposed for the Salarian in the giant armor we saw for multiplayer apparently).
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Drifter posted:Is nyx the salarian?  I put this stuff in the OP for you, Drifter. You in particular.
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Possibly unpopular opinion here: I'd love to be able to run solo missions.
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Same. You can go solo in Inquisition, so perhaps they'll let you do it in Andromeda.quote:Adam Barling adam_Barling
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There are generally counterbalances built into the crafting system, though.
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Ein Sexmonster posted:Yea based on the descriptions- I rooted through the descriptions on their website and this seems to be mostly right except for PeeBee and Liam. Liam is called an Engineer in his background but between the fact that he was also a police officer (ie, he has a mixed tech and combat background) and the fact that his listed Favored Ability is Havoc Strike I think he's the Infiltrator. PeeBee's listed favored ability is a tech ability, Invasion. Which I believe is renamed Hacking? I think she might actually be the Engineer.
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Havoc Strike wasn't an infiltrator ability in ME3, it was on the Turian Soldier kit and worked kind of like a techy charge.
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exquisite tea posted:Havoc Strike wasn't an infiltrator ability in ME3, it was on the Turian Soldier kit and worked kind of like a techy charge. I know. In this case I suppose it would be more accurate to say "I think Liam is the Combat/Tech mix person".
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Feb 17, 2017 21:30
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I think PeePee will end up being more like the Sentinel and one of the other alien dudes will be the Adept, if we're going by class archetypes at all.
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The Krogan is a Krogan and then there's whoever else gets to come along cuz it's 'their' mission. Why do you guys even care about the rest of these space-losers? 'Ooh... what class is Lenny Kravitz gonna be? What powers will Hitler-hairdoo lady have?'... loving shameful. You are all in this for the wrong reasons.
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As the series went on Sentinel ended up meaning both "mix of tech and biotic powers" and "tanky guy." There were some multiplayer sentinels in ME3 that didn't have any biotics.
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exquisite tea posted:I think PeePee will end up being more like the Sentinel and one of the other alien dudes will be the Adept, if we're going by class archetypes at all. Vetra's listed favored ability is the Sentinel's old standby of Power Armor. She seems to be the shoe in for that role.
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marshmallow creep posted:Same. You can go solo in Inquisition, so perhaps they'll let you do it in Andromeda. I really hope we'll get a good variety of weapons without needing to bother with crafting, though. I've never seen a game with a significant crafting system come up with a good balance between crafted items and items you can find for yourself.
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marshmallow creep posted:Same. You can go solo in Inquisition, so perhaps they'll let you do it in Andromeda.
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marshmallow creep posted:
I told you, the OP is like a giant-rear end COdex. I don't ~do~ codexes.  quote:I told you, the OP is like a giant-rear end COdex. I don't ~do~ codexes. (I'll read the freakin' OP, dammit) 
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quote:Ian S. Frazier @tibermoon quote:Joe Marchand @thejoeman2 quote:Colly @platonicwaffles quote:SlopingDrake657 slopingdrake657 So we're kinda back to the Mass Effect 1 style of loot where you can find lots of guns of various tiers. Doesn't really answer the question whether stuff you craft will outstrip stuff you buy, but it seems to me at present like if you are using a Mattock IV, it doesn't matter if you bought or crafted it. There has been no mention of materials affecting functionality or statistics.
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marshmallow creep posted:So we're kinda back to the Mass Effect 1 style of loot where you can find lots of guns of various tiers. Oh man, I REALLY hope the inventory management doesn't suck as much as ME1. edit: I just read the OP. I KNOW who Vetra is. Stupid two names for an alien. That's dumb. Just say Vetra. Drifter fucked around with this message at 22:00 on Feb 17, 2017 |
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^^^ You're good people, Drifter. A very good concern, because in this screenshot:  We can see that her normal limit is 50.  If they drop even half as much garbage on you as Inquisition, the inventory limit will be infuriating. And Mass Effect 1 buried you in garbage. marshmallow creep fucked around with this message at 22:04 on Feb 17, 2017 |
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Heads up for people who make bad decisions. GreenManGaming has Andromeda preorders up for $45.99 for VIP members. I don't see the game going that low again for a long time.
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marshmallow creep posted:^^^ You're good people, Drifter. And this# friends, is why you buy on PC so you can mod or cheatengine that away.
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Watching the video show that you can float enemies and have them follow you around and then launch them at other enemies was pretty cool.Spaseman posted:Heads up for people who make bad decisions. GreenManGaming has Andromeda preorders up for $45.99 for VIP members. I don't see the game going that low again for a long time. I think it'll drop lower.
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After that gameplay video I'm now super pumped to play the game. I already had it prepurchased, but I wasn't any really excited. Now I can't wait to sit way far away in the back plinking away with 4 sniper rifles equipped. Been sniping exclusively since ME1, ain't gonna stop now. GONNA QUADSNIPE 
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marshmallow creep posted:^^^ You're good people, Drifter. Drifter is in my bad books right now >:| Trailer looked cool but what were the three kinds of weapon tech they mentioned? I heard Milky Way, Helius and _____? (the laser-based ones) Edit: https://www.masseffect.com/news/weapons-and-skills has the answer (they're Remnant weapons) Hedrigall fucked around with this message at 22:42 on Feb 17, 2017 |
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Remnant, which I presume means the Collector/Prothean particle beam weapons.
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SgtSteel91 posted:It also looked like a gas canister got roped into the pull too, so maybe there's an upgrade to pull multiple objects, maybe people too. I want to fight by just vacuuming up everything in sight into a giant biotic katamari. frajaq posted:Hmm alright gameplay looks solid, although the teammate AI looked a bit silly just standing there. Some of the enemies too, hopefully that's fixed before launch Teammates never knew how to use cover in old Mass Effects, so adding it now would break with established canon.
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