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On the Snowden thing it's worth reading this. http://intelligence.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=743 If you're familiar at all with guys like Pollard, Ames, and/or Philby it's the same narcissistic bullshit with a different name. Key takeaways are at no point did he follow any whistleblower procedures, make any attempt to contact the congressional ethics committee or any other government organization with a similar purpose. He was also mass archiving poo poo pretty much immediately after being turned down for a position he wanted because he was too inexperienced for the position and regularly got into pissing contests with his bosses. Nothing Snowden did was out of any sense of altruism or duty. Highlights of the review http://intelligence.house.gov/uploadedfiles/snowden_report_highlights.pdf and the whole review if you want to skip the intro link http://intelligence.house.gov/uploadedfiles/hpsci_snowden_review_declassified.pdf
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Steezo posted:On the Snowden thing it's worth reading this. probably gonna die just as philby et al did
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Reverand maynard posted:Bergdahl is why Battalion commanders need the ability to say "this guy is retarded, is going to get people killed, let's offer him an early discharge or shuffle him off somewhere else and make him do laundry" I think they have the ability but if you did that you'd be admitting failure or something. I had a soldier that needed to go SO BAD, did the counseling on him like clockwork and everything but rather than do any work, or god forbid have a box on a spreadsheet turn yellow or  red they would just say"That sounds like a leadership problem sergeant" 
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Reverand maynard posted:Bergdahl is why Battalion commanders need the ability to say "this guy is retarded, is going to get people killed, let's offer him an early discharge or shuffle him off somewhere else and make him do laundry" They have it, but it requires people to do like 2 hours worth of paperwork.
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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:seems like an unbiased source... What do you think they left out?
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mlmp08 posted:They have it, but it requires people to do like 2 hours worth of paperwork. You may be joking but I did whatever the gently caress I could to get out of even ten minutes of paperwork when I was a team leader.
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TBeats posted:You may be joking but I did whatever the gently caress I could to get out of even ten minutes of paperwork when I was a team leader. Exactly.
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Zeris posted:What do you think they left out? It's not omission necessarily, but considering how whistleblowers of all stripes are typically treated by governmental agencies it isn't too much of a stretch to take the report with a grain of salt. The government had a narrative to uphold and may have tweaked the facts to fit it.
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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:It's not omission necessarily, but considering how whistleblowers of all stripes are typically treated by governmental agencies it isn't too much of a stretch to take the report with a grain of salt. The government had a narrative to uphold and may have tweaked the facts to fit it. "I don't like these facts so they might not be true"
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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:It's not omission necessarily, but considering how whistleblowers of all stripes are typically treated by governmental agencies it isn't too much of a stretch to take the report with a grain of salt. The government had a narrative to uphold and may have tweaked the facts to fit it.
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Jarmak posted:"I don't like these facts so they might not be true" that's not what i'm saying at all but ok 
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Casimir Radon posted:That's been my psychological read on Eddie from the beginning so I tend to agree. I am interested in what you can tell me about this Eddie 
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Pesticide20 posted:I am interested in what you can tell me about this Eddie
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That Eddie is dead.  But at least we cab relive his hijinx on netflix and hulu.
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LITERALLY SHAKING posted:That Eddie is dead. Pawlternative facts.
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BigDave posted:DHS is aiming to step-up ICE and Border Patrol by hiring 15,000 new agents total. Also setting up something called "VOICE", or Victims Of Illegal Criminals Engagement office. If I felt like getting bribed by the cartels and getting away with it, now would be the time.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/19/us/politics/donald-trump-ukraine-russia.htmlquote:But the proposal contains more than just a peace plan. Andrii V. Artemenko, the Ukrainian lawmaker, who sees himself as a Trump-style leader of a future Ukraine, claims to have evidence — “names of companies, wire transfers” — showing corruption by the Ukrainian president, Petro O. Poroshenko, that could help oust him. And Mr. Artemenko said he had received encouragement for his plans from top aides to Mr. Putin.
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Senator McCarthyvich
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Good article Office Pig, thanks for sharing. I also like this bit: quote:He entered Parliament in 2014, the year that the former Ukrainian president Viktor Yanukovych fled to Moscow amid protests over his economic alignment with Russia and corruption. Mr. Manafort, who had been instrumental in getting Mr. Yanukovych elected,
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The House Republican Chair of the Intelligence Committee (Nunes) is basically saying "nothing to see here, go away". Priebus is on all of the Sunday shows saying "oh yeah, we've talked to the FBI, there's nothing there and this is all bullshit." The Senate Intelligence Committee, having seen a ghost on Friday, is having none of it, directing everyone to save all of their communications. https://twitter.com/jimsciutto/status/833387031866781696
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I want to hire a mariachi band to follow Flynn around and every so often the band stops playing and chants "lock her up"
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Like that'll matter, they'll just delete whatever they want and tell any investigation to just gently caress off.
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Many analysts believe that when Russia annexed Crimea, they lost their chance to make any other agreement with Ukraine. Poroshenko and his whole government were defined by their reaction to Russia's invasion, and for them to make any concessions now on the Donbass region would basically ruin them all. So they can't negotiate with Russia. Ukraine is an incredibly corrupt country, but it's equally likely that Russia would just fabricate evidence of corruption if they can't find any. Either way, any "evidence" they present isn't worth the paper it's printed on. But this is a post-fact society, and Russia just needs to get enough people in the Trump administration to play ball. If Russia AND the United States are putting pressure on Poroshenko, and Europe's jerking off in the corner like usual, then Russia will probably succeed in getting the concessions they want and/or collapsing the Ukrainian government. Worst case scenario, Russia and the United States put pressure on the Ukraine government, it collapses and creates enough turmoil that Russia has a pretext to "intervene" in Ukraine, they go and install a puppet in Kiev. Hail SS-18 Satan.
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This is the Swedish Prime Minister https://twitter.com/carlbildt/status/833219648044855296?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
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Sergg posted:This is the Swedish Prime Minister Former Prime Minister and Trump was talking about some Fox News show.
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holy christ there's no prop guards you go to stretch your leg in either direction and you'll turn that limb into a mist
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Pump it up! Do it! posted:Former Prime Minister and Trump was talking about some Fox News show. I think there's a significant difference between "was talking about" and "was getting confused with" when we are talking about the President addressing the public.
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TBeats posted:I think there's a significant difference between "was talking about" and "was getting confused with" when we are talking about the President addressing the public. Hey, he's got the Daily Stormer backing him up against the lying Jew media.
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TBeats posted:I think there's a significant difference between "was talking about" and "was getting confused with" when we are talking about the President addressing the public. Yeah, it's clear he was just bumblefucking around whatever poo poo he recently heard or saw on Fox News, it's a bit weird to make up poo poo about Trump when there's so much actual garbage streaming from his "administration".
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Duzzy Funlop posted:Yeah, it's clear he was just bumblefucking around whatever poo poo he recently heard or saw on Fox News, it's a bit weird to make up poo poo about Trump when there's so much actual garbage streaming from his "administration". This isn't making poo poo up about Trump. This is a continued pattern of Trump making poo poo up to try and build support for his next attempted Muslim ban. Conway making up the "Bowling Green Massacre" - repeatedly. Spicer making up an Atlanta attack - repeatedly. You don't make the same slip three times in a week by accident.
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Confirmed, Fox News was the source. https://twitter.com/brianstelter/status/833435732278648832 
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On the positive side, if we got to Iran and they actually do poo poo like this, we should be able to establish air superiority pretty rapidly. https://twitter.com/Azematt/status/833433508584505344
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Does shooting down their air force really matter if there's an SA-10/S-300 battery every 5 miles. Because there's no goddamn way Russia isn't going to give them some real vicious anti-air capability on the house
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If we invaded Iran there would be very little Russia wouldn't give them. They (Iran and Russia) would be the good guys. We would be an invading army.
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Bolow posted:Does shooting down their air force really matter if there's an SA-10/S-300 battery every 5 miles. Because there's no goddamn way Russia isn't going to give them some real vicious anti-air capability on the house You'd also expect Russia to share some TTPs that aren't state-of-the-art for 1944.
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Reverand maynard posted:If we invaded Iran there would be very little Russia wouldn't give them. They (Iran and Russia) would be the good guys. We would be an invading army. B-b-but the President said Russia is our friend?
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