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Covok posted:What does that word mean? 'Ephebophilia'? If it actually matched the Greek root it was derived from it would be 17-ish year olds at the youngest. (And only males.) It's adolescents, but an ephebos in particular was one eligible for military service. Whenever anyone says it online they mean 'teenagers'. Often young teenagers. So yeah, basically pedophilia again. Prism fucked around with this message at 23:11 on Feb 19, 2017 |
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Covok posted:What does that word mean? 'Ephebophilia'? You know how some types can read Nabokov's Lolita and sincerely think of Humbert as the victim? And others look at the traditional iron-age or stone-age marriages with younger brides and think "huh, looks like  "And others just really wish that age-13 policy for email or website memberships, also applied to Tinder? The word means 
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Feb 19, 2017 23:10
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So, it just means pedophile.
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Feb 19, 2017 23:58
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NLJP posted:Basically still loving kids but at least they're 12-13+, something like that. Ephebophilia is basically 'attraction to someone who is at least going through puberty'. The ironic thing is that claiming you're into that is worse: it means you're attracted to people with adult sexual features, but you insist on getting them as young as possible. Like, actual pedophiles have poo poo wrong with them where they only want undeveloped bodies, and there's not much for them to do other than try to get a bunch of therapy to keep them from acting on it. Someone who tells you they're an ephebophile, they're saying "I need victims". Because an ephebophile would be someone who could live their life just fine and be attracted to full adults, but they're intentionally trying to get with the very young because they're knowingly creeps.
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Feb 20, 2017 00:10
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Exactly - they are creeps who seek people they have a severe imbalance of power over. They are pretty much the reason why statutory rape laws protect teenagers. So it's still super-wrong as gently caress but has different poo poo going on for why it's wrong and hosed up. Spacedad fucked around with this message at 00:38 on Feb 20, 2017 |
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Feb 20, 2017 00:35
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TB9fwJDweaU
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Feb 20, 2017 00:53
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NLJP posted:It's a distinction people make to make themselves feel less like scum, i.e: they're old enough and their minds are matured enough to consent. These people tend not to consider power dynamics and coercion from an older person to a younger one as a problem. speaking of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBYM0dQ4zUU&t=426s
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Feb 20, 2017 01:12
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https://twitter.com/mschlapp/status/833485576431079424 They're seriously going forward with making the advocate for pederasty a speaker at CPAC.
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Feb 20, 2017 04:30
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Covok posted:So, it just means pedophile. What's an ephebophile? A pedophile with a thesaurus.
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Feb 20, 2017 04:32
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lol here's the whole unedited video. it's still awful, milo is awful https://twitter.com/ReaganBattalion/status/833485040944156673
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Feb 20, 2017 04:37
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NLJP posted:Basically still loving kids but at least they're 12-13+, something like that. Ephebophilia is basically 'attraction to someone who is at least going through puberty'. They're This guy, basically. (NOTE: This is a link to a video from a guy who was on TV Tropes at some point, who got into a fight with a goon over statutory rape laws.)
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Feb 20, 2017 04:50
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NLJP posted:“I thought when we elected a black president, we were going to get a black president. You know, this [BP oil spill] is where I want a real black president. I want him in a meeting with the BP CEOs, you know, where he lifts up his shirt so you can see the gun in his pants. That’s – (in black man voice) ‘we’ve got a motherfu**ing problem here?’ Shoot somebody in the foot.'” - Maher I get that a lot of people hate Maher, but this is some weak evidence that he's a huge bigot. You can do better then the lovely opening jokes his staff writes.
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Office Pig posted:https://twitter.com/mschlapp/status/833485576431079424 wouldn't be the first time i'm guessing
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Reminder Purity Balls. Donnie got the vote of the surprising large block of white fathers that want to gently caress their own daughters.
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PhazonLink posted:Reminder Purity Balls. 
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Office Pig posted:https://twitter.com/mschlapp/status/833485576431079424 This stuff with college campuses is indicative of both the cognitive dissonance of the right and why the current right wing is so lovely. Stephen Miller's entire career is basically being automatically given a space on student publications and government for being conservative. David Horowitz's main source of income is being paid by colleges to tell colleges he is discriminated against. Which sets up the current situation. Want to get involved in the conservative movement as a college student? Dont spend any time trying to come up with novel arguments or researching stuff. Instead, try to get your student newspaper to publish your "homosexuality is just like bestiality" editorial and keep pushing your student government to spend student fees to bring the least qualified right wing troll to campus. And if they do give you that opportunity, keep doubling down until you get any minor pushback, because that is when you can get someone like Bachmann to come on campus and launch your career (that is literally what has happened to Stephen Miller). The dishonesty is so great that once Horowitz claimed to have been banned from Emory because the Emory student government association refused to pay for a second visit by him within an 8 month period.
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Feb 20, 2017 06:25
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Prism posted:If it actually matched the Greek root it was derived from it would be 17-ish year olds at the youngest. (And only males.) It's adolescents, but an ephebos in particular was one eligible for military service. "Young" being 13-15 and not usually older. Most often you see people arguing about age of consent and so on by pointing out places where it's lower then 18 oh and by the way its literally never any adult woman arguing it should be fine for them to bang 14 year old boys. Just straight men saying being attracted to a 14 year old girl is perfectly normal or a gay man saying there's nothing wrong with a 15 year old boy and a 30 year old man.
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Feb 20, 2017 06:35
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joepinetree posted:This stuff with college campuses is indicative of both the cognitive dissonance of the right and why the current right wing is so lovely. Stephen Miller's entire career is basically being automatically given a space on student publications and government for being conservative. David Horowitz's main source of income is being paid by colleges to tell colleges he is discriminated against. This is also how you become a Trump surrogate on a major news network.
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A Fancy 400 lbs posted:I know I was the one who attacked Maher first, but this is like one of the few things he's right about. If you wanna argue against it, come out here and live in a farm town and then tell me it isn't true. It's obviously not everyone and it's slowly changing as the older generations die off but that stereotype exists for a reason. Whether or not you think it's true is different than whether or not it's an effective strategy, to be fair.
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pentyne posted:Most often you see people arguing about age of consent and so on by pointing out places where it's lower then 18 oh and by the way its literally never any adult woman arguing it should be fine for them to bang 14 year old boys. Rebuttal.
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Feb 20, 2017 07:20
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Jake Tapper is all over the Milo pedophilia thing on Twitter right now & he's pissed. This is likely to blow up big tomorrow.
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Feb 20, 2017 07:34
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Kubrick posted:I get that a lot of people hate Maher, but this is some weak evidence that he's a huge bigot. You can do better then the lovely opening jokes his staff writes. Point taken bout that one being a little weak (though still dumb and racist) but mainly the fact is that there is a pattern of him certainly not being a 'progressive' at best and being a lovely bigot at worst. His religious stuff is the most egregious and obvious but there's certainly a whole lot more out there.
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Feb 20, 2017 07:52
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I always thought the ephebophile (thank you spell check for refusing to accept that as a word) thing was an artifact of the fact that Reddit and such was populated by 13-18 year olds. The duality of kids being attracted to people their age while simultaneously pretending at being older/more mature online than their actual ages. Is it actually argued in seriousness by people verifiably not kids playing at being older?
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If Milo was serious about becoming a mainstream figure now is the perfect time for him to renounce homosexuality and claim all the pedo stuff was just how all gay people are so he couldn't live that way anymore.
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PJOmega posted:Is it actually argued in seriousness by people verifiably not kids playing at being older?
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Republicans posted:If Milo was serious about becoming a mainstream figure now is the perfect time for him to renounce homosexuality and claim all the pedo stuff was just how all gay people are so he couldn't live that way anymore. Too bad the current administration has emboldened his ilk to basically opening demand paiderastia and present it as some sort of job they could possibly get paid for, if Milo or any other rear end in a top hat ever felt like it. Y'know, so they don't have to just go to the Philippines all the time!
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PJOmega posted:I always thought the ephebophile (thank you spell check for refusing to accept that as a word) thing was an artifact of the fact that Reddit and such was populated by 13-18 year olds. The duality of kids being attracted to people their age while simultaneously pretending at being older/more mature online than their actual ages. Back before it was verboten here (or wherever), it certainly seemed like it was non-kids using it, not kids lying about their age but refusing to lie about who they're attracted to.
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PJOmega posted:I always thought the ephebophile (thank you spell check for refusing to accept that as a word) thing was an artifact of the fact that Reddit and such was populated by 13-18 year olds. The duality of kids being attracted to people their age while simultaneously pretending at being older/more mature online than their actual ages. There's a reason why like half the porn out there is girls pretending to be in high school.
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Feb 20, 2017 08:16
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Milo's bullshit (and Breitbart's/Bannon's in general) starts to make more sense when you realize he's a white nationalist catholic extremist of the 'lets subjugate everyone not like us and instigate new profiteering crusade in the middle east by any underhanded means necessary' variety. Which is a type of catholic extremism that lends itself to being a selfish profiteering narcissist or a self-hating deviant. (Or even a straight-up fascist.) It's also a brand of catholic extremism that is at odds with the current pope; which is why Bannon is trying to pull some game of thrones type poo poo with his allies in the vatican.
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Feb 20, 2017 08:35
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Milo advocates for pedophilia for the same reason he loudly proclaims his fetish for BIG BLACK BUCKS, and for the same reason he writes about how gay people need to be forced back into the closet. To legitimize the conservative view and attitude towards homosexuals.
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Feb 20, 2017 08:43
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You are right that he is a 'homosexuals are bad, look at me' gay quisling for the right to use in their strawman attacks on LGBTs - in fact that's literally how he got his start. Writing exactly that sort of thing in a catholic extremist newsletter. However, I think you're slightly off here in that milo's defense of pedophilia here is more to do with his catholic extremism, and apologetics for pedophile priests.
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It's worth noting that you can also replace "Catholic Extremist" with "Mainline Protestant".
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I prefer to assume Milo defends child molestation not because he's a conservative false flag designed to damage gay rights, but because he's a bad person.
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Feb 20, 2017 09:31
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Yeah, I'm sure the right uses him as a tool so much as Milo really is a tool and would do this willingly and honestly. The right gets to justify and engender hatred towards homosexuals by letting milo run free to paint them all with his broad brush and Milo gets to be the biggest degenerate he can get away with because lovely conservatism and now potentially even molestation is protected speech.
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Ragnar34 posted:I prefer to assume Milo defends child molestation not because he's a conservative false flag designed to damage gay rights, but because he's a bad person. Why not both?
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RasperFat posted:Why not both? The ultimate betrayal at this point would be leaked footage of Milo coming home to a plain and modest 37-year-old wife, each drinking a glass of warm milk while they study scripture before taking a 7pm nap.
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Feb 20, 2017 15:14
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Ah yes, the old ephebophile defense. That's the same kind of person that watches underage anime porn and says "actually this 12 year old child is a 300 year old vampire!" in all seriousness.
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Milo's statement:quote:A note for idiots (UPDATED): The links are broken since I c/p'd this from his facebook, but basically it's "everyone else has done bad things related to this too".
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Kurt Eichenwald would point out your house to the nazis if they were coming for you and wouldn't ask anything in return.
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