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Olothreutes posted:All these transform/add a counter options seem like they use the stack and can be responded to, potentially letting your opponent blow up the land before you get the color you actually need out of it. This is probably the most insane corner case of all time, but playing this card: "You may have ~ enter the battlefield transformed" Easy.
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So GP Brisbane had 12 different decks in the top 16. GP Vancouver also had 12 different decks in the top 16. Some commonality between them in terms of decks represented, but not entirely. Pretty cool. Edit: and 14 different deck types in the top 16 of SCG Modern Classic Baltimore.
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Yeah, modern is actually pretty great right now, despite what random nerds on the internet would have you believe.
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Torchlighter posted:
Perfect, it's common. Thanks for thinking about Pauper players homie. Bonus posted:Yeah, modern is actually pretty great right now, despite what random nerds on the internet would have you believe. Modern is a great format for three or four rounds at the LGS, which is all that matters.
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Bonus posted:Yeah, modern is actually pretty great right now, despite what random nerds on the internet would have you believe. In before another 3 pages of how modern is terrible with lots if people restating thier personal opinion of why that is so. Closely followed by the "why standard sucks" discussion again. During which I'll be smashing games of both and having a blast! Edit: I like the land idea. Choosing the colour on entry... They could also have life cost to transform making one side "free" the other shock you. There has to be some interesting design space there. DoctorOozy fucked around with this message at 11:54 on Feb 20, 2017 |
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So the abzan company deck in the top 8 cut the normal 3 voice of resurgence and 1 redcap for a 4th bird, feeder, archangel, and spellskite main. Interesting choice, maybe he was trying to dodge graveyard hate? Basically swapped one creature that Company can't hit for another. The monowhite taxes deck in the top 8 had only 2 flickerwisp (heresy!), 3 wall of omens, and 2 shining shoal? Interesting choices.
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Feb 20, 2017 12:09
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Fetchlands could've been "Tap, pay 1 life, sacrifice ~this card~: name (Land Type 1) or (Land Type 2), reveal lands until you reveal a land with said type. Put that revealed land into play. Put the revealed cards on the bottom of your deck in a random order." No reliable four colors off a fetch. Drawback of revealing your deck. Fixing for the primary colors with incidental fixing for the shared colors.
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DoctorOozy posted:I like the land idea. Choosing the colour on entry... They could also have life cost to transform making one side "free" the other shock you. There has to be some interesting design space there. It's mostly a mockup to show how simple it would be to template, and as the thread has already discussed, .it can be improved upon. there's a lot of design space there, but wizards like to play it very safe with their land designs, for good reason. If they ever did something like this,it would more likely enter the battlefield tapped.
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Few pages back, but the Ad Nauseam scoop judge ruled absolutely correctly. The player trying to scum a victory hasn't done anything wrong by the rules; not sporting behaviour isn't necessarily Unsporting Behaviour. It sure as poo poo isn't Cheating (you have to be doing something wrong for it to be Cheating, and this isn't). It feels bad as gently caress but under current policy at the very most you'd give USC Minor (Warning) if the scumbag was being too demanding. Policy should probably change, but folks should lay off the loving judge.
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ThePeavstenator posted:I wasn't around for it but I have seen enough games of no-ban-list modern to know that it's a miserable time and turns deckbuilding into 56 cards + 4 misstep Ok, so I missed Mental Misstep during my hiatus from Magic, but looking at it now I'm having a really hard time seeing why it was so dominant at the time. Is there more to it besides the fact that it allows any deck to rock a free counter even though it's pretty limited? Is setting someone on the play behind their curve turn 1 really that powerful? Were there a lot more cantrips being played in that era?
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Every deck where Misstep legal is 56 cards, 4 Misstep. Otherwise you're losing the Misstep wars in turn 1.
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suicidesteve posted:Every deck where Misstep legal is 56 cards, 4 Misstep. Otherwise you're losing the Misstep wars in turn 1. Except for the decks with literally no 1-drops, circumventing the Misstep wars completely.
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:Except for the decks with literally no 1-drops, circumventing the Misstep wars completely. They still usually played 4 Misstep to counter other decks' things. The only exception I can think of is vintage Shops usually doesn't play any but sometimes people play them even though it's bad and you shouldn't.
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Are many goons planning to go to GP Montreal? I'm taking a holiday for it since I wanted to visit Canada anyway, and I'm really due a proper break away. How are Game Keeper as TOs? Better learn some French!
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After doing some more research, has anybody played with the Card Kingdom Battle Decks? If they're as advertised, they might just be the solution to my problem, but if they're not reasonably balanced I can make unbalanced pauper decks out of my own collection for free.
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80s James Hetfield posted:Shouldn't there be Modern Masters 2017 spoilers soon? Probably next Monday
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BizarroAzrael posted:Are many goons planning to go to GP Montreal? I'm taking a holiday for it since I wanted to visit Canada anyway, and I'm really due a proper break away. How are Game Keeper as TOs? Huh, I'd have expected Face to Face games to TO a GP in Montreal. Game Keeper is par to subpar in my experiences so far. They're not like Pastimes bad (I think that was the garbage TO in the US?), but nothing has particularly stood out as really good to me. Had a couple side events this weekend take a while to fire, and prize walls are always kind of suspect, IMO.
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Procrastinator posted:Game Keeper is par to subpar in my experiences so far. They're not like Pastimes bad (I think that was the garbage TO in the US?), but nothing has particularly stood out as really good to me. Had a couple side events this weekend take a while to fire, and prize walls are always kind of suspect, IMO. Pastimes is the garbage TO that isn't PES which is even worse. Also I don't think PES has any more GPs.
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suicidesteve posted:Also I don't think PES has any more GPs. This may be the best news I have ever heard.
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I know elements of this have been posted, but MM2017 and Amonkhen packaging previews: http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/modern-masters-2017-edition-and-amonkhet-packaging-2017-02-20 Domri Rade, Griselbrand and some version of Elspeth (new art) confirmed for MM. Also more detailed shots of the art for the precon Gideon and Liliana. Bigger news: Full art Nicol Bolas themed basic lands!!! Also new planeswalker art for the block and what looks like a legend cycle: Liliana (apparently not cursed), Gideon (Egyptian themed gear) and Nissa (elven national socialist), plus what could be 5 animal-headed gods which seem to each align to a color (guessing the wolf/fox/jackal one is red, it fits the ordering of white cat, blue bird, black crocodile, red jackal, green serpent). BizarroAzrael fucked around with this message at 17:12 on Feb 20, 2017 |
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BizarroAzrael posted:I know elements of this have been posted, but MM2017 and Amonkhen packaging previews:  I know I'm supposed to see  but all I see is 
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Full-art basics, now for all the basic colours of mana: greenish yellow, yellow, bluish yellow, reddish yellow and black-white! Edit: I mean I jest a bit, but that Island honestly is prettty awful. Lunsku fucked around with this message at 17:17 on Feb 20, 2017 |
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Seriously Bolas, the Washington Monument is great and all, but you didn't have to make an entire plane as a love letter to it.
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Jabor posted:Seriously Bolas, the Washington Monument is great and all, but you didn't have to make an entire plane as a love letter to it. I like to think Bolas just rolled into the plane and was all 
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BizarroAzrael posted:I know elements of this have been posted, but MM2017 and Amonkhen packaging previews: Well dang, congrats to whoever was pulling for a Griselbrand reprint a few pages back. Also that does look like Elspeth but I have no idea what version it would be, especially since she appears to have wings.
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torsoboy posted:It's Stoic Angel, not Elspeth. Yep.  
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Fingers McLongDong posted:Wonder what the art on the box is. Possibly the new Snapcaster mage art? Would get a lot of hype if its new art for snap but I am getting this feeling ol snappy is going to be mythic because $$$$. We have also reached a point where distributors have already probably gotten their hands on the product so keep an eye out on prices dropping as they will probably be what is reprinted. Stuff going on "sale" right about now is a good indicator. Sickening fucked around with this message at 17:46 on Feb 20, 2017 |
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TheMaestroso posted:Yep. Good to see they're continuing the trend of making the EV of a pack potentially poo poo.
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mcmagic posted:I was hoping for the return of white bordered lands. Die evil scum In all seriousness though, the white borders on cards do one thing every well, it makes cards look less damaged over time. So many old cards look like garbage due to black borders and play wear. Sickening fucked around with this message at 18:02 on Feb 20, 2017 |
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Lunsku posted:Full-art basics, now for all the basic colours of mana: greenish yellow, yellow, bluish yellow, reddish yellow and black-white! You're crazy, the island is the best one of the five Edit; mcmagic posted:I was hoping for the return of white bordered lands. Ahahahaha of course you were
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 the prerelease packs are going back to the bullshit and useless BOZ ones? The newer ones were great and could be useful for board game inserts. The BOZ ones are awful.Count Bleck posted:Good to see they're continuing the trend of making the EV of a pack potentially poo poo.
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Oh, something I missed in the preview, fat packs now have 10 boosters! Don't know if the price changes. If those are gods, as opposed to giants or avatars or something (although gods were mentioned in the blurb introducing the plane) I'm hoping they are typed as "crocodile god", "bird god" and so on.
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