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Rabid Snake posted:Does AMD do aggressive binning for their processors? I was wondering if it would be worth getting the 1800x over the 1700x Whether it's worth 120 dollars more for a few hundred mhz is up to the purchaser.
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Ihmemies posted:One thing I still don't understand is why AMD litetally copied Intel's mistakes with Bulldozer? Longer pipeline so you could achieve more megahurtz... Couldn't they see how well it worked with Netburst?
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Josh Lyman posted:Lisa Su is actually kinda mediocre? Anime Schoolgirl fucked around with this message at 10:16 on Feb 19, 2017 |
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Anime Schoolgirl posted:Bulldozer was designed in 2008 and released in 2011, when Lisa Su was still working at
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GRINDCORE MEGGIDO posted:Yea, I totally don't believe that for a second. Being wrong would be fantastic but I'm going to say - no way, not unless they're disabling a bunch of cores and probably not even then. Again, the guys who witnessed this never made an overclocking claim, this is some redditor claiming it was overclocked. It was a cinebench test, and it was at stock clocks.
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FaustianQ posted:Again, the guys who witnessed this never made an overclocking claim, this is some redditor claiming it was overclocked. It was a cinebench test, and it was at stock clocks. I'm responding to someone commenting on a Redditor posting that. Just in case anyone is unlikely enough to think that's going to happen.
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Has AMD put out a good overclocker since the Duron 600 MHz? AXIA Athlon was alright but I bought an AYHJA in high school and it was a completely bust.
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Josh Lyman posted:Has AMD put out a good overclocker since the Duron 600 MHz? AXIA Athlon was alright but I bought an AYHJA in high school and it was a completely bust. Athlon XP-M was amazing.
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Paul MaudDib posted:Athlon XP-M was amazing. There was also an Opteron famous for overclocking, the 144, I believe. Not to mention more recently (well, still pre-Bulldozer) you had triple cores that could often be unlocked into fully functional quad cores, although I realise that's a different kettle of fish. HalloKitty fucked around with this message at 21:26 on Feb 19, 2017 |
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Paul MaudDib posted:Athlon XP-M was amazing. Friend on mine got his to 3GHz on air. (Ok, the computer was on his windowsill in -5degC weather but still). They were great. I undervolted mine quite a bit and ran the fans super quiet. GRINDCORE MEGGIDO fucked around with this message at 23:20 on Feb 19, 2017 |
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Feb 19, 2017 22:17
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If the IPC wasn't poo poo overclocking BD derivatives would be more fun. Its quite possible to get around 1Ghz or more overclocks on some of them on air. They just still perform poorly and use tons more power so it doesn't make much sense.
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PC LOAD LETTER posted:If the IPC wasn't poo poo overclocking BD derivatives would be more fun. Its quite possible to get around 1Ghz or more overclocks on some of them on air. They just still perform poorly and use tons more power so it doesn't make much sense. Overclocked Bulldozer pulls as much as an overclocked Intel HEDT processor at like half the total performance  The 9590 is extra hilarious because you need to buy a fancy motherboard with a specific chipset to be able to push that much power to it, which are extra expensive. Or you could just buy an Intel.
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Paul MaudDib posted:Or you could just buy an Intel.  (motherboard melts)PC LOAD LETTER posted:If the IPC wasn't poo poo overclocking BD derivatives would be more fun. Its quite possible to get around 1Ghz or more overclocks on some of them on air. They just still perform poorly and use tons more power so it doesn't make much sense. RyuHimora fucked around with this message at 06:27 on Feb 20, 2017 |
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Feb 20, 2017 06:25
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RyuHimora posted:But Bulldozer has 8 REAL cores, while an i7 only has 8 LOGICAL cores! But what is a core? A miserable little pile of secrets!
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RyuHimora posted:My FX-8320 overclocks to 5.1Ghz with a $20 Coolermaster 212, and renders videos in about 90% the time of an i7-6700, so I'm 100% okay with paying less than half the price of the i7. I think the trend of software becoming more multi threaded as time goes on will continue which ironically will help improve Bulldozer performance more over time long after AMD will have stopped making it. Making a core which focused heavily again on IPC as with Zen was definitely the right move though.
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PerrineClostermann posted:But what is a core? A miserable little pile of secrets! AMD's cores especially. Those 8 logical cores just happen to be 4 complexes of 2 threads that share execution units to increase performance. What's that you say? That sounds a lot like HyperThreading? JUST STOP IT DAD, YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND ME AT ALL! 
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Feb 20, 2017 07:48
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no you see the threads are being ripped its totally different
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Boiled Water posted:no you see the threads are being ripped its totally different
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Threadripper sounds like the name of a monster from a Judas Priest song.
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"AMD Ryzen with THREADRIPPER" with cpu box art taken from Judas Priest album covers.
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Boiled Water posted:"AMD Ryzen with THREADRIPPER" with cpu box art taken from Judas Priest album covers. 
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Anime Schoolgirl posted:perfect way to bring back late 90s/early 00s absurdist videocard box designs I'm sad because I'm moving on from a GPU that has a FEMALE on it to one that doesn't  to  
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I got into buying GPUs with the 8800GT ~~~ALPHA DOG~~~ edition Still not sure what the box art is, some furry thing with a mask like Skull Face
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SwissArmyDruid posted:Unironically, I can't wait for someone to delid one of these things so I can see how the die is laid out for optimum pasting. If it's just like a Bulldozer CPU it'll be impossible.
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SwissArmyDruid posted:Unironically, I can't wait for someone to delid one of these things so I can see how the die is laid out for optimum pasting. Sure they're not soldered? Their previous FX CPUs were, as far as I know. HalloKitty fucked around with this message at 15:48 on Feb 20, 2017 |
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There are crazy people on Youtube that try to de-lid soldered Intel chips, so I'm sure someone will try it on these, too! e: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hf8V_UulpBk Apparently he didn't shred the die? Skip to a minute in to see the die shot. Gwaihir fucked around with this message at 16:00 on Feb 20, 2017 |
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If I *really* wanted to, I could chuck a processor up into a vise in one of the vertical mills (preferably a dead one, I don't like doing this kind of poo poo to perfectly-good hardware) and then just take off .0001 of an inch at a time with a shell mill until I get down to solder, assuming the solder isn't like, "squeezed out like thermal paste" thicknesses. I mean it's solder, it's metallic, it can afford to be the.... what was it, (I'm sure the actual gap between the die and the heatspreader is actually greater... I'd probably peel off layers until it got down to aluminum foil thickness, and then just peel off the rest by hand to expose the solder.) SwissArmyDruid fucked around with this message at 16:35 on Feb 20, 2017 |
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this just reminded me that the Pentium G3258 IHS was soldered and that won't cease being funny to me because the only post-sandy lga 115x chip that got solder as the TIM was a low end chip with a multiplier unlocked
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Anime Schoolgirl posted:this just reminded me that the Pentium G3258 IHS was soldered and that won't cease being funny to me because the only post-sandy lga 115x chip that got solder as the TIM was a low end chip with a multiplier unlocked
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SwissArmyDruid posted:If I *really* wanted to, I could chuck a processor up into a vise in one of the vertical mills (preferably a dead one, I don't like doing this kind of poo poo to perfectly-good hardware) and then just take off .0001 of an inch at a time with a shell mill until I get down to solder, assuming the solder isn't like, "squeezed out like thermal paste" thicknesses. I mean it's solder, it's metallic, it can afford to be the.... what was it, Why not just heat it up enough to melt the solder and weaken the adhesive? Too high of a temp? Or maybe you could carefully try to cut the adhesive and then run a heat gun over the cover to desolder the thing. Does intel/AMD sputter a sufficiently thick metal layer on the back of the die after they mill it down?
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RyuHimora posted:???????? My Pentium G3258 right next to me was very definitely not soldered when I delidded it, in fact that's the reason I had to delid it, the thermal performance was alarmingly bad even on a really good cooler. Yea, it would make zero sense if a dual core Pentium was soldered given the explanation for why current skylake quads and so on aren't soldered IHSes.
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Asus motherboard leak seems to confirm DDR4 ECC support http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:https://www.asus.com/gr/Motherboards/PRIME-X370-PRO/specifications/ eames fucked around with this message at 18:19 on Feb 20, 2017 |
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It might be soldered on but it's not good quality Razer ICETech ArtikFroZXZer HeatCombat Thermal Compound and thus it must go into the trash.
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Watermelon Daiquiri posted:Why not just heat it up enough to melt the solder and weaken the adhesive? Too high of a temp? Or maybe you could carefully try to cut the adhesive and then run a heat gun over the cover to desolder the thing. Does intel/AMD sputter a sufficiently thick metal layer on the back of the die after they mill it down? Because the rear end in a top hat I lent my good heat gun to never gave it back before they skipped town. 
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