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Panzeh posted:I think its a bit early in stephs career to discuss longevity. When I say better I mean peaks. Obviously if Curry's legs fall off(Rip Rose) he won't reach the longevity awards. But assuming he doesn't his career will be muuuuch better Not to mention if you include the RINGS BITCH™ category. Curry is already better than Nash. Dexo fucked around with this message at 21:10 on Feb 20, 2017 |
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Dexo posted:When I say better I mean peaks. Obviously if Curry's legs fall off(Rip Rose) he won't reach the longevity awards. But assuming he doesn't his career will be muuuuch better I get that. I just think, if you want a pass-first, tough floor general who you can trust late in games, you take Steve. If you want a ridiculous scorer who makes boneheaded plays(obviously not always), Mr Curry it is. Also I'm old
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Doltos posted:Whiteside and Cousins on one team would be a powder keg. Whiteside on any team with a superstar that cares about spacing is a nightmare. I'd rather have a spacing nightmare with good players than the Kings roster. Tae posted:Also seems kinda weird to compare shooting percentages and ignore that Curry has maintained a 41% 3-point average while shooting double the volume of 3's than peak Nash the past 4-5 years. You're then arguing Jose Calderon at 1-2 attempts per game was a better shooter than Dirk or Ray Allen because he hit a higher percentage. If Dirk, Ray Allen, and Nash came into the league now they would be shooting more threes. All three of those players are good enough to maintain accuracy over a higher volume of shots. However, it's a paradox because modern NBA offenses wouldn't have evolved into what they did without those players. Also, if Nash was on the Warriors instead of Curry they would be back to back champs. Curry is great and his MVP season is better than Nash's but Nash doesn't get shook. (Just his face smashed in by dirty teams.)
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Brolander posted:i think it's a bit early in steph's career to judge him against steve at all Just pretend Steph Curry had 4 years before his first year where he also did not do poo poo and there you go. Steph is so far ahead of Nash
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Spacebump posted:
Yeah, these things too.
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Brolander posted:If you want a ridiculous scorer who makes boneheaded plays, Mr Curry it is. Also I'm old This is a hilariously short sighted over-reaction to a great player. Curry is a ridiculously dependable player who, it should be noted, is much better at not turning the ball over than Mr. Nash.
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https://www.google.com/search?q=how+many+rings+has+steve+nash+won&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8 https://www.google.com/search?q=how+many+rings+has+stephen+curry+won&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
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Lockback posted:This is a hilariously short sighted over-reaction to a great player. Curry is a ridiculously dependable player who, it should be noted, is much better at not turning the ball over than Mr. Nash. I mean I'm taking the piss somewhat, but dependable over how long a period of time? This is where we run into the comparison issue I mentioned before https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpjtV4qjJBU Brolander fucked around with this message at 21:20 on Feb 20, 2017 |
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Vanilla Mint Ice posted:https://www.google.com/search?q=how+many+rings+has+steve+nash+won&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8 hahahhah gently caress
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Pretty sure only one of those players has been used as a shorthand for superlative skill in a #1 song, and it wasn't Steph.
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Spacebump posted:
Nash also could create like a mother fucker and basically helped invent the modern NBA. Sure he got a fake MVP once but I don't think it's that insane to want Nash over Curry, or to even say Nash is a better basketball player.
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alright lets fire this PR machine up https://twitter.com/highkin/status/833772860594384896
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BIZORT posted:All day I'd been hearing Sacramento got this big offer on the table and that they stopped taking calls because this one team had absolutely blown them away with such an incredible offer Wow back from the dead. How about them...magic...s?
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Kings fans definitely have a 'get of jail free' card to become Warriors fans without getting poo poo for being a bandwagon'er
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https://twitter.com/BobbyMarks42/status/833754666290839552
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Brolander posted:I mean I'm taking the piss somewhat, but dependable over how long a period of time? This is where we run into the comparison issue I mentioned before He's had 4 straight seasons of MVP-consideration-level play (WS>.200, PER~25+, efficient shooting on ridiculous efficiency, big minutes on elite defensive teams), and he's played 78+ games each of those seasons. Last season he had probably the greatest individual season since Wilt, full stop. In the playoffs last year his True Shooting was north of 60% on a 25/5/5/2 line. Cleveland did a good job defending him in game 7, but in the 3 previous game he scored 25+ so its not like he was why they lost the series. Ignoring, like, 300 games because of a poor single game is p. dumb.
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WhyteRyce posted:alright lets fire this PR machine up Sacramento is going to be able to sign Harlem Globetrotters in the offseason and that's about it.
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Lockback posted:If peak Nash played with Durant today, or anytime in the last 5 years, he also wouldn't be the best player on his own team. That hardly makes Curry worse than Nash.
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Vlade press conference up http://www.csnbayarea.com/
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hahhahah Vlade says we are going to try and compete and make playoffs
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Lockback posted:Ignoring, like, 300 games because of a poor single game is p. dumb. Mention those Lebron finals in which he was awful to a Cavs fan, to put it in context he was legit bad in the mavericks finals
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You obviously can't predict how Curry is going to age or what will happen with injuries or whatever but to this same point in both their careers Curry has been better than Nash to such a crazy degree and his past two years aren't something Nash can come close to touching. It'd take Curry dying right now for this to be an argument and even then...
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lol Vlade keeps saying best offer best time over and over again
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culture change culture change culture change
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hahaha vlade said he had a better offer 2 days ago than the one he accepted The Jack Donaghy 30 Rock negotiation trick worked on Vlade
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WhyteRyce posted:hahaha vlade said he had a better offer 2 days ago than the one he accepted
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Tae posted:Mention those Lebron finals in which he was awful to a Cavs fan, to put it in context Its basketball, sometimes matchups play against a player and sometimes players have a bad couple of games in bad moments. It doesn't magically erase their history. I understand that basketball is best remembered as a series or moments, but if people think the last 4 years of Curry have been anything other than completely ridiculously incredible they are pretty much ignoring reality to fit a narrative.
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He said we had to trade now since Cousins' value would just continue to drop
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The GM for the Sacramento Kings is Vivek Ranadivé.
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WhyteRyce posted:hahaha vlade said he had a better offer 2 days ago than the one he accepted This press conference is gold. "We had a better offer two days ago" "This was the best offer that we could get. It's a process"
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WhyteRyce posted:hahaha vlade said he had a better offer 2 days ago than the one he accepted Well, poo poo, they had to pull the trigger! The only other times they had to trade Cousins would be every day until Thursday, or the entire upcoming offseason or up until the trade deadline next year!
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vlade saying best offer over and over again makes me feel like he's trying to sell me some 98 civic
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Does Curry have even close to the same passing skill and court vision that Nash did, because honestly, I don't think so and am siding with Daltos here.
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WhyteRyce posted:vlade saying best offer over and over again makes me feel like he's trying to sell me some 98 civic
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