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yeah I eat ass
Mar 14, 2005

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food court bailiff posted:

Melee is fun but calling it technical is a laugh and all of its biggest proponents are weirdo dorks like this guy.

You just need autism to "get" the technical parts of melee. There is little practical reason to ever do some of the stuff they obsess over, but they will still spend weeks practicing it so they can show it off at tournaments.

Melee tournaments are awful places and I will forever resent my former roommate for dragging me in to that "community". They don't even drink and will get mad if you even try and bring alcohol into the cramped game shop that reeks of BO and bawls brand energy drink. It was even sad at MLG when they included it, we were shunted off to some side area with a bunch of old CRT TVs while the Halo 2 guys got the cool giant screen and they didn't have to sit on the floor.

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yeah I eat ass
Mar 14, 2005

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TrustmeImLegit posted:

Getting called a 'pussy human being' by a 13 year old British kid while being poo poo on in Call of Duty is actually an entertaining gaming experience.

The best is when you can hear their mom yelling in the background telling them to either stop playing or watch their language.

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

The only good way to play Far Cry 4 is to sit the gently caress down, eat your god drat Crab Rangoon, and let Pagan Min keep these savages from killing each other and raping their underage children.

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

"Carbons? Purge? What are you talking about?!"

yeah I eat rear end posted:

You just need autism to "get" the technical parts of melee. There is little practical reason to ever do some of the stuff they obsess over, but they will still spend weeks practicing it so they can show it off at tournaments.

Melee tournaments are awful places and I will forever resent my former roommate for dragging me in to that "community". They don't even drink and will get mad if you even try and bring alcohol into the cramped game shop that reeks of BO and bawls brand energy drink. It was even sad at MLG when they included it, we were shunted off to some side area with a bunch of old CRT TVs while the Halo 2 guys got the cool giant screen and they didn't have to sit on the floor.

Yeah also when you hear about sexual assaults and harassment at tournaments it is always, always, always the Melee players. Every time.

Bodyholes
Jun 30, 2005

Fighting game communities are uniformly cancer.

'Technical' is just a nice way of saying the controls are deliberately poorly designed and player-unfriendly... something which is universally prized in such communities, and which is often mistaken for strategic depth.

yeah I eat ass
Mar 14, 2005

only people who enjoy my posting can replace this avatar

Bodyholes posted:

Fighting game communities are uniformly cancer.

'Technical' is just a nice way of saying the controls are deliberately poorly designed and player-unfriendly... something which is universally prized in such communities, and which is often mistaken for strategic depth.

I agree but smash brothers melee is uniquely bad. I saw someone knock a guy over and kick him in the stomach multiple times and everyone told the guy to not make a big deal because the kicker was autistic. All he did was win a match in a way the autist thought was "cheap".

bag em and tag em
Nov 4, 2008
I think fighting games on general are only fun to play for about 10 minutes and never with other people, especially online. The entire thing becomes an autistic race to the top to see if you can push the automatic winning series of buttons in the fewest number of frames.

Riot Bimbo
Dec 28, 2006


As a nerd growing up you have to learn to avoid certain communities, and a true friend will pull a person aside and save their friend, if they notice a taken interest in fighting game tournaments, or competitive card game tournaments, or honestly any nerd thing + tournament

Twelve Batmans
Dec 24, 2009

by FactsAreUseless

food court bailiff posted:

Yeah also when you hear about sexual assaults and harassment at tournaments it is always, always, always the Melee players. Every time.

Happened to see your post regarding KOF XIII a few pages back and while I think the sale is over, I can say XIII was an excellent game. Just very tight on the inputs. I've found XIV to be a lot more forgiving on inputs and thus easier to practice, but XIII is great. Very beautiful game too.

beep by grandpa
May 5, 2004

Sonic 2 and Sonic CD are all right if that's all you got I guess, but Sonic 3 & Knuckles utterly wipes the floor with them and does everything better.

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

"Carbons? Purge? What are you talking about?!"

Twelve Batmans posted:

Happened to see your post regarding KOF XIII a few pages back and while I think the sale is over, I can say XIII was an excellent game. Just very tight on the inputs. I've found XIV to be a lot more forgiving on inputs and thus easier to practice, but XIII is great. Very beautiful game too.

Sweet. I actually did end up buying it during the sale but haven't had a chance to spin it up yet because my boot drive ended up committing suicide. :(

SpaceClown
Feb 13, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

basic hitler posted:

As a nerd growing up you have to learn to avoid certain communities, and a true friend will pull a person aside and save their friend, if they notice a taken interest in fighting game tournaments, or competitive card game tournaments, or honestly any nerd thing + tournament

what if its a racing sim tourney? those are pretty cool but im also completely biased and am a sucker for racing sims.

Riot Bimbo
Dec 28, 2006


SpaceClown posted:

what if its a racing sim tourney? those are pretty cool but im also completely biased and am a sucker for racing sims.

does it attract mal-adjusted people with broken disordered brains that will attack you when they lose?

Bodyholes
Jun 30, 2005

bag em and tag em posted:

I think fighting games on general are only fun to play for about 10 minutes and never with other people, especially online. The entire thing becomes an autistic race to the top to see if you can push the automatic winning series of buttons in the fewest number of frames.

Rivals of Aether online 2v2 is extremely fun. Much moreso than I expected.

All fighting games end up becoming autistic hyper-frame-perfect executions with pixel-perfect spacing wars at high levels. You can live with that and enjoy them for what they are, or you can do other stuff with your life. Either way no big deal. What matters is whatever you find fun.

I play chess these days because my fingers are too slow to take videogames seriously anymore.

Sardonik
Jul 1, 2005

if you like my dumb posts, you'll love my dumb youtube channel

a bone to pick posted:

could you give a short synopsis? I love laughing at bioshock.
Abso-loving-lutely.

Here's the short version from what I remember:

You play as Elizabeth, in what is presumably the primary rapture timeline from Bioshock 1. In Burial at Sea 1, Elizabeth kills the Booker who lives in rapture because of him trying to use a furnace of some kind to flush out a little sister of the vents (?). She becomes disgusted with him and kills him, and then here's where things get stupid. She gives up her multiverse godhood powers to protect this one, singular little sister. Presumably because she felt bad about using the sister in her plot to determine if the rapture Booker was a jerk or not. So instead of, I don't know, using her powers to prevent rapture from being created or at least doing something at a macro level to make the lives of the little sisters better, she gives it all up for this one individual.

From there the actual game begins, and it's essentially a slow motion suicide all the way through. She loses all semblance of sanity, and imagines a Booker to save her and keep her moving forward, and yet she gradually becomes more unhinged and fatalistic. She goes around doing Bioshock things for a while, and eventually she comes face to face with Atlas, who tortures her in an absolutely disgusting first person torture porn scene where he uses an icepick type thing to almost give her brain damage.

Some time later, Atlas needs her for a mission to a specific area, which he says his people can't get to because of "gene-locked turrets" of some kind, which they did not even bother to model in the actual level. Elizabeth talks to Suchong or something, and then allows herself to be killed, with I believe the same little sister in the room she gave up her powers to protect. Lo-and behold, some short death speech later, it's revealed that she did all this to set the events of Bioshock 1 in motion.

So in short:
Elizabeth gives up her powers for a dumb reason
Elizabeth is robbed of what little agency she had
Elizabeth is fridged for the benefit of the Bioshock 1 story

I'm probably forgetting a lot of stuff, but I'm convinced the only people who genuinely liked the story either are torture fetishists or people who straight up hate women. It's such a tremendous clusterfuck especially reading it from a feminist perspective, I'd almost recommend watching the story chunks of it for a laugh, were it not for the pointless torture scenes.

SpaceClown
Feb 13, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

basic hitler posted:

does it attract mal-adjusted people with broken disordered brains that will attack you when they lose?

surprisingly not.

1stGear
Jan 16, 2010

Here's to the new us.

Sardonik posted:

Abso-loving-lutely.

Here's the short version from what I remember:

You play as Elizabeth, in what is presumably the primary rapture timeline from Bioshock 1. In Burial at Sea 1, Elizabeth kills the Booker who lives in rapture because of him trying to use a furnace of some kind to flush out a little sister of the vents (?). She becomes disgusted with him and kills him, and then here's where things get stupid. She gives up her multiverse godhood powers to protect this one, singular little sister. Presumably because she felt bad about using the sister in her plot to determine if the rapture Booker was a jerk or not. So instead of, I don't know, using her powers to prevent rapture from being created or at least doing something at a macro level to make the lives of the little sisters better, she gives it all up for this one individual.

From there the actual game begins, and it's essentially a slow motion suicide all the way through. She loses all semblance of sanity, and imagines a Booker to save her and keep her moving forward, and yet she gradually becomes more unhinged and fatalistic. She goes around doing Bioshock things for a while, and eventually she comes face to face with Atlas, who tortures her in an absolutely disgusting first person torture porn scene where he uses an icepick type thing to almost give her brain damage.

Some time later, Atlas needs her for a mission to a specific area, which he says his people can't get to because of "gene-locked turrets" of some kind, which they did not even bother to model in the actual level. Elizabeth talks to Suchong or something, and then allows herself to be killed, with I believe the same little sister in the room she gave up her powers to protect. Lo-and behold, some short death speech later, it's revealed that she did all this to set the events of Bioshock 1 in motion.

So in short:
Elizabeth gives up her powers for a dumb reason
Elizabeth is robbed of what little agency she had
Elizabeth is fridged for the benefit of the Bioshock 1 story

I'm probably forgetting a lot of stuff, but I'm convinced the only people who genuinely liked the story either are torture fetishists or people who straight up hate women. It's such a tremendous clusterfuck especially reading it from a feminist perspective, I'd almost recommend watching the story chunks of it for a laugh, were it not for the pointless torture scenes.

You left out the part where you discover that the Luteces talked Daisy into doing the whole savage negress bit and nearly murder an innocent white child so Elizabeth could kill her and grow as a person.

gently caress you I'm not going to spoiler that, Burial at Sea is incredibly awful garbage on every level and Ken Levine should never be allowed near a video game again.

a bone to pick
Sep 14, 2011

by FactsAreUseless

Sardonik posted:

Abso-loving-lutely.

Here's the short version from what I remember:

You play as Elizabeth, in what is presumably the primary rapture timeline from Bioshock 1. In Burial at Sea 1, Elizabeth kills the Booker who lives in rapture because of him trying to use a furnace of some kind to flush out a little sister of the vents (?). She becomes disgusted with him and kills him, and then here's where things get stupid. She gives up her multiverse godhood powers to protect this one, singular little sister. Presumably because she felt bad about using the sister in her plot to determine if the rapture Booker was a jerk or not. So instead of, I don't know, using her powers to prevent rapture from being created or at least doing something at a macro level to make the lives of the little sisters better, she gives it all up for this one individual.

From there the actual game begins, and it's essentially a slow motion suicide all the way through. She loses all semblance of sanity, and imagines a Booker to save her and keep her moving forward, and yet she gradually becomes more unhinged and fatalistic. She goes around doing Bioshock things for a while, and eventually she comes face to face with Atlas, who tortures her in an absolutely disgusting first person torture porn scene where he uses an icepick type thing to almost give her brain damage.

Some time later, Atlas needs her for a mission to a specific area, which he says his people can't get to because of "gene-locked turrets" of some kind, which they did not even bother to model in the actual level. Elizabeth talks to Suchong or something, and then allows herself to be killed, with I believe the same little sister in the room she gave up her powers to protect. Lo-and behold, some short death speech later, it's revealed that she did all this to set the events of Bioshock 1 in motion.

So in short:
Elizabeth gives up her powers for a dumb reason
Elizabeth is robbed of what little agency she had
Elizabeth is fridged for the benefit of the Bioshock 1 story

I'm probably forgetting a lot of stuff, but I'm convinced the only people who genuinely liked the story either are torture fetishists or people who straight up hate women. It's such a tremendous clusterfuck especially reading it from a feminist perspective, I'd almost recommend watching the story chunks of it for a laugh, were it not for the pointless torture scenes.

Seriously, there is something very wrong with the brain of whoever wrote this story, they should be on some sort of government watch list.

Sardonik
Jul 1, 2005

if you like my dumb posts, you'll love my dumb youtube channel

1stGear posted:

You left out the part where you discover that the Luteces talked Daisy into doing the whole savage negress bit and nearly murder an innocent white child so Elizabeth could kill her and grow as a person.

gently caress you I'm not going to spoiler that, Burial at Sea is incredibly awful garbage on every level and Ken Levine should never be allowed near a video game again.
Oh wow, how did I forget that, basically the poo poo cherry on top of the whole experience. A pathetic attempt to back-fill justification for that idiotic scene.

a bone to pick posted:

Seriously, there is something very wrong with the brain of whoever wrote this story, they should be on some sort of government watch list.
It is truly, in terms of tone, plot, and execution, a high budget crossover fetish fanfic. :shepface:

Bob James
Nov 15, 2005

by Lowtax
Ultra Carp
Valve should bring back the Skeleton King.

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Oct 15, 2012

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To oohs😮 to ahhs😱 to 👏big👏applause👏
With all of my 😡anger I scream🤬 and shout📢
🇺🇸America🦅, I love you 🥰but you're freaking 💦me 😳out
Biscuit Hider
This is fresh in my mind because I'm playing it right now, but the specific reason she gives up her powers is because right after she lets the Big Daddy kill the Booker from the first DLC (who is actually a Comstock, and in his universe that Elizabeth lost a head instead of a pinky so he had the wonder twins wipe his memory and park him in Rapture) she panics and for some reason doesn't use her powers to keep herself from getting killed by the Big Daddy. This is normally fine because she can just gently caress off to the rest of time and space, but she feels bad because cooking the girl alive was actually her plan and she kinda had to coerce Bookerstock into it, so she teleports back to the place where she died which is apparently a big no-no for quantum abominations and she loses all of her powers.

christmas boots
Oct 15, 2012

To these sing-alongs 🎤of siren 🧜🏻‍♀️songs
To oohs😮 to ahhs😱 to 👏big👏applause👏
With all of my 😡anger I scream🤬 and shout📢
🇺🇸America🦅, I love you 🥰but you're freaking 💦me 😳out
Biscuit Hider
Like, you can put me down as someone who actually really liked the main story and especially the Booker/Comstock stuff about the baptism, guilt, redemption, etc.

And even I think the DLC has a poo poo story.

is pepsi ok
Oct 23, 2002

LISA is everything Undertale claims to be. It's one of the funniest, darkest, and most emotional games I've ever played and it should be seen as the true EarthBound successor. If there was any justice the popularity of those two games would be reversed.

lazorexplosion
Mar 19, 2016

If you think people "should be on a government watch list" for poor video game stories you are indeed weird and mad.

lazorexplosion fucked around with this message at 23:08 on Feb 20, 2017

a bone to pick
Sep 14, 2011

by FactsAreUseless

lazorexplosion posted:

If you think people "should be on a government watch list" for poor video game stories you are indeed weird and mad.

I think writing torture fan-fiction about a lead female character is much weirder but if this is the hill you want to die on then so be it.

Olive Mohel
Nov 8, 2006

Life is more than a series of ones and zeroes.
Buying Nintendo consoles solely for Nintendo games is justifiable, at least as long as that's the only way to play them.

Games with less interactivity are still games, and games can be art. People who argue otherwise seem to think calling something a game or art inherently gives it some kind of merit or those are titles that have to be earned, which is stupid. Art can suck.

RTSs are impenetrable and I can't imagine anyone who loves them hasn't been playing them for like 20 years or more.

Olive Mohel
Nov 8, 2006

Life is more than a series of ones and zeroes.
Oh also, complaining that a game (or anything) is "overrated" is self-centered as gently caress. You don't have to like what other people like.

christmas boots
Oct 15, 2012

To these sing-alongs 🎤of siren 🧜🏻‍♀️songs
To oohs😮 to ahhs😱 to 👏big👏applause👏
With all of my 😡anger I scream🤬 and shout📢
🇺🇸America🦅, I love you 🥰but you're freaking 💦me 😳out
Biscuit Hider
No but they have to like what I like, which is why the only good video game is the Burger King promotional game "Sneak King"

get that OUT of my face
Feb 10, 2007

Stale Saltines posted:

LISA is everything Undertale claims to be. It's one of the funniest, darkest, and most emotional games I've ever played and it should be seen as the true EarthBound successor. If there was any justice the popularity of those two games would be reversed.
the one upside to Undertale's popularity is that LISA has gotten more of a look from people who want to play other Earthbound-likes. i haven't played Undertale so i can't pass judgment, but the fact that it has a reviled fanbase makes me hesitant to give it a shot

Chillgamesh
Jul 29, 2014

get that OUT of my face posted:

the one upside to Undertale's popularity is that LISA has gotten more of a look from people who want to play other Earthbound-likes. i haven't played Undertale so i can't pass judgment, but the fact that it has a reviled fanbase makes me hesitant to give it a shot

I haven't played Undertale either but there's plenty of media out there that's fun and enjoyable despite having a dogshit fanbase.

Also, LISA loving rules.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZuI3ZkCHfs

Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

Stale Saltines posted:

LISA is everything Undertale claims to be. It's one of the funniest, darkest, and most emotional games I've ever played and it should be seen as the true EarthBound successor. If there was any justice the popularity of those two games would be reversed.

made the dumb mistake of giving their game a generic name. if you type "LISA" into google you think this indy game is going to pop up? what else is named "Undertale"? nothing thats what

Kullik
Jan 5, 2017

Oh i got another one:

Pixel art is trash and i immediately discount any game with pixel art graphics and will take a lot of convincing to actually play it and even then my enjoyment will be limited because i loving hate that art style and will never think it looks good.

Universe Master
Jun 20, 2005

Darn Fine Pie

Nintendo would make so much more money if they stopped making consoles and just took all their great IPs third party for Microsoft, Sony, and PC.

WatermelonGun
May 7, 2009
Undertale's fanbase appears to be the same as homestuck's, and that alone makes me want nothing to do with it.

Turok 2 was better than goldeneye

get that OUT of my face
Feb 10, 2007

it's tragic that turok video games are dead. in an FPS world with boring guns that you can only carry two of at a time, we need stuff like the Particle Accelerator and Cerebral Bore again

Universe Master posted:

Nintendo would make so much more money if they stopped making consoles and just took all their great IPs third party for Microsoft, Sony, and PC.
they're not going to, and people who foam at the mouth at anything nintendo does because they're the ones who are doing it (nobody is writing angry screeds about Playstation VR being a "gimmick," i wonder why) aren't suddenly going to stop doing that if they become third party. the problem in their eyes is that they're not sucking in the way that other consoles and big-time game makers are. nintendo is far from problem-free, but at least they're trying to not make gaming the same slog as everyone else

get that OUT of my face fucked around with this message at 10:26 on Feb 21, 2017

Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

WatermelonGun posted:

Turok 2 was better than goldeneye

Perfect Dark was better than Turok 2

yeah I eat ass
Mar 14, 2005

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Grand theft auto san andreas is the only GTA worth playing. The older ones are boring and the newer ones seem to prefer serious+realistic over being fun. I have like 12 hours played combined on 4 and 5 whereas I have over 700 on SA and I replay it all the time.

MrQwerty
Apr 15, 2003

I'm sick of seeing animated weiners french kissing in every fucking GBS thread.

Kullik posted:

Oh i got another one:

Pixel art is trash and i immediately discount any game with pixel art graphics and will take a lot of convincing to actually play it and even then my enjoyment will be limited because i loving hate that art style and will never think it looks good.

Counterpoint: Undungeon looks sweet as gently caress and even if it is trash it will be a beautiful game

The General
Mar 4, 2007


The original GTA is the only GTA worth playing.

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TheMostFrench
Jul 12, 2009

Stop for me, it's the claw!



Rutibex posted:

Perfect Dark was better than Turok 2

I was going to disagree and say something about weapons but then I watched videos of both games and decided that Turok 2 only has the gratuitous violence aspect going for it, but Perfect Dark has an aimbot wallhack gun, and a machine gun which can be used as a proximity mine.

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