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Dejan Bimble posted:Not to sound like a sports radio host but I called this when the New CBA came out. The banana boat crowd got themelves huge paydays and everyone else has to find a crack to slide into. Maybe that's fair for the best 20 or so players, but what about the 10 other teams. At least some of them are going to supermax just all star caliber not great players and will be handicapped. You need to be all-NBA two of the previous 3 seasons, so I'm not sure who counts as that that you'd call "just all-star talent". If you're landing on the all-nba list that often you're probably a special player. edit: Quick look, the only guy that is eligible right now (forget about actually have a contract up) that I'd maybe hesitate to give a supermax to is Klay Thompson, and that's still pretty defensible. Lockback fucked around with this message at 23:12 on Feb 20, 2017 |
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I'd like to compare this trade to the Rasheed Wallace trade, but Rasheed was legitimately angry at a time when refs were fixing games and had a completely hosed up organization. When he came to detroit, he was still Sheed, just with a good organization, a team identity, and guys to get along with in the locker room. I think it helps that AD is considered the better player, they're friendly, Gentry is a good coach. In sacramento there were two poles: Vivek's weirdness at one end and Cousins's petulance and frustration at the other. Now, Cousins just needs turn his passive aggression, shrugs, snorts, eyerolls, into aggressive aggression and ball. I'm really loving excited to see the pelicans play. I'm also a little excited to see if Will he Call he Stein could blossom into the Tyson Chandler/ Larry Sanders esque player we thought he might be able to be if given a chance Lockback posted:You need to be all-NBA two of the previous 3 seasons, so I'm not sure who counts as that that you'd call "just all-star talent". If you're landing on the all-nba list that often you're probably a special player. Oh that's good. I thought it was under the old provisions of 1 all NBA or 2 all star apperances. That protects teams from themselves to some extent Dejan Bimble fucked around with this message at 23:15 on Feb 20, 2017 |
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The SituAsian posted:RE: Nik Stauskas you know how players have to take an orientation course on like, not leasing a hundred cars with all their new money? well new owners should have to take an orientation where they learn to read a box score and use basketball-reference
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Dejan Bimble posted:
Someone actually came out and said they took away all-star as criteria because it makes it harder on the West than the east. You also get it for MVP or Defensive POY in the last 3 seasons. MVP seems an easy criteria. I guess DPOY could qualify some weird guys historically, but I think defensive players get underpaid in general so that's fine.
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Jota posted:The cap is currently estimated to be around $103 million so with Boogie's contract and Jrue's cap hold it could end up being more like $10-12 million in cap space. Correct, it turns out the pessimistic projections have gotten quite a bit more pessimistic since last time I looked.
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Punkin Spunkin posted:Buddy Hield is only five years younger than Charles Barkley? Yes.
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Imagine sticking with the Kings all these years
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Kings told Dallas Saturday night they weren't trading Cousins and wouldn't listen to offers, lol.
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Ranadive thinks Buddy is going to be the next Curry O_0
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Intruder posted:Imagine sticking with the Kings all these years I didn't actively follow the team in the later Maloof years because it became clear they weren't interested in fielding a good product. I came back after they sold and now Vivek is actively trying to field a good product that is somehow just the same as the Maloofs doing nothing.
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He's probably talking about the original curry outlook where he was going to flame out early from bad knees and become a minimum wage shooter off the bench
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They didn't have a good product either way with cousins, but now they get to keep their top 10 pick, get no's pick AND have a top 5 pick in buddy. Trust hinkie's process guys
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Vanilla Mint Ice posted:They didn't have a good product either way with cousins, but now they get to keep their top 10 pick, get no's pick AND have a top 5 pick in buddy. Trust hinkie's process guys Don't the sixers get to swap with them?
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Tae posted:The Warriors lose if they're forced to start McGee. They are incredibly reliant on Zaza's health if the Pelicans face the Warriors. The problem is that Cousins and AD both draw fouls well and neither Zaza nor McGee are gonna get the benefit of the doubt. Green and Durant will get more leeway but are just going to get worn out and abused. It's a bad matchup. OTOH Pelicans can't defend GSW on the perimeter at all so.
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Spacebump posted:Kings told Dallas Saturday night they weren't trading Cousins and wouldn't listen to offers, lol. I wonder if this is a case of Divac steering Ranadive towards his bizarre desired outcome of getting Buddy Lockback posted:Do you have a script that replies this or..? Nick hasn't slept, and you know when nick hasn't slept he gets silly boy
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Vanilla Mint Ice posted:They didn't have a good product either way with cousins, but now they get to keep their top 10 pick, get no's pick AND have a top 5 pick in buddy. Trust hinkie's process guys don't slander hinkie you piece of poo poo!!!
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Who could have guessed that multiple NBA players confessing to being flat-earthers wouldn't be the dumbest thing to happen this weekend.
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Ghetto SuperCzar posted:Don't the sixers get to swap with them? Yes and look at this line up. https://twitter.com/MaxRappaport/status/833558058378940416 God bless Hinkie.
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Buddy gonna get up you'll see YOU ALL WILL SEE
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I was joking earlier but...maybe the Kings should hire Hinkie?
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Vivek stanning for Buddy Hield reminds me entirely too much of Seinfeld Steinbrenner's excuse for trading Jay Buhner for Ken Phelps Vivek is actually Seinfeld Steinbrenner
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I saw some stat thing that showed Buddy's closest statistical comparisons are Nik Stauskas and Ben McLemore. He certainly has a type
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https://twitter.com/Isaiah_Thomas/status/833729748832432128?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
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On the Ringer NBA podcast from what sounds like a payphone booth in the 1920s Bill Simmons goes over how New Orleans and LA might in fact have been the only trading partners and if Ingram isn't on the table then, NO is the only partner. It is a bunch of hilarious/ludicrous "ah we never wanted to trade for him anyway" stuff mixed in too but his analysis of the trade partners is mostly decent.
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DeimosRising posted:The problem is that Cousins and AD both draw fouls well and neither Zaza nor McGee are gonna get the benefit of the doubt. Green and Durant will get more leeway but are just going to get worn out and abused. It's a bad matchup. Jrue and Moore are good guard defenders. That SF spot, though...
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https://twitter.com/CarmichaelDave/status/833809917295226880 But that would mean Vlade is lying and Vlade wouldn't lie would he
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https://twitter.com/beasleo/status/833823374652559360 https://twitter.com/beasleo/status/833823543624245248 oh shut up you little punk rear end bitch who hates Cousins because he called you out for being a hack.
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WhyteRyce posted:https://twitter.com/CarmichaelDave/status/833809917295226880 It's only natural that Vlade would be away from his phone for long periods; you can't smoke indoors in California anymore.
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The AGENTS are always loving things up https://twitter.com/sam_amick/status/833826618221006848 What? You mean Vlade himself lied to Cousins' agents? You'll have to ask them. No comment.
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How much better are the Kings in the alternate universe where the financial collapse never happens and George Maloof becomes the new Sheldon Adelson?
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Look, we had to tell several other teams to stop making us offers for DeMarcus because we knew they weren't going to get better as several different parties competed with one another and a deadline for making a trade drew closer It's simply not how the market works
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WhyteRyce posted:The AGENTS are always loving things up Yeah, reading the full quote about the better offer, it seemed like he blamed and agents for killing it
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The SituAsian posted:How much better are the Kings in the alternate universe where the financial collapse never happens and George Maloof becomes the new Sheldon Adelson? They sucked drafting and traded picks like candy for bad players back then as well
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The SituAsian posted:How much better are the Kings in the alternate universe where the financial collapse never happens and George Maloof becomes the new Sheldon Adelson? 100% more vanity vodka lines sold in the arena, for starters,
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Tae posted:They sucked drafting and traded picks like candy for bad players back then as well Never forget. 
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Wow in hindsight the Bucks crushed that three way they just hosed it all up afterwards
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So I can actually believe that the trade market was killed by Cousins' agent, and that makes sense. But then don't trade him right now? Wait until other teams feel brave enough to call his bluff, or if Cousins himself changes his mind. You had time.
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Nice little wrinkle in this is Boogie getting to work with Alvin Gentry. DAJ improved immensely while he was our OC and he perfected Boguts role in the Warriors offense. Really good at putting bigs in the right position tactically
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Vivek's new market inefficiency is ignoring relevant variables when assessing market value. A true thought leader doesn't care about what the market values now but what it will value tomorrow. Kings fans may be mad now but they still get to wake up tomorrow knowing they are in the prescient hands of a true visionary
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