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Inspector Hound
Jul 14, 2003

MechaSeinfeld posted:

Ghost Recon could be fun if it turned out to be a sequel to Mercenaries

There's explosions and a helicopter, but it doesn't seem as chaotic as i remember Mercenaries being. It looks like it's more geared toward borderline sociopaths who cleared and reset the outposts in Far Cry 3 & 4 a gazillion times (me).

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El Jebus
Jun 18, 2008

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Inspector Hound posted:

There's explosions and a helicopter, but it doesn't seem as chaotic as i remember Mercenaries being. It looks like it's more geared toward borderline sociopaths who cleared and reset the outposts in Far Cry 3 & 4 a gazillion times (me).

I'm just interested in a game with lots of guns and customization for said guns, fun ways to get around (the helicopter sucks but you can skydive across the whole closed beta if you fly to the ceiling!), fun people to do stupid poo poo like see how many C4 you can place before they start disappearing, and enemies aren't bullet sponges like the division. Playing it by myself seems like a good way to hate it.

Also Sniper Ghost Warrior 3 comes out in April for that old school Ghost Recon feel.

el oso
Feb 18, 2005

phew, for a minute there i lost myself
The actual ME:A gameplay videos look fun and I was obsessed with the ME3 multiplayer so an updated version of that is pretty exciting to me. The characters look more cartoonish and a little wonky in motion during the story cutscenes but hopefully the SP mode is decent as well, but all I really need to have a good time with it is the MP.

Morby
Sep 6, 2007
The IGN gameplay review got me back on board for Horizon: Zero Dawn. That will probably be the next game I pick up.

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.
My skeptic side refuses to believe that Zero Dawn can be good. I mean I hope it is but...

Morby
Sep 6, 2007

Shimrra Jamaane posted:

My skeptic side refuses to believe that Zero Dawn can be good. I mean I hope it is but...

All signs point to it being a competently done game with an interesting story and combat system. That's what I've seen thus far in the gameplay videos. That awful side quest that was leaked a couple weeks ago definitely put a damper on the game for me, and I've seen that the voice acting is inconsistent, but that won't be the first time that's happened in a game like this.

Honestly, I hope this means Guerilla Games will be successful enough to be even more ambitious next time. It was risky of them to leave Killzone behind and go in a different direction.

Mars4523
Feb 17, 2014

Morby posted:

All signs point to it being a competently done game with an interesting story and combat system. That's what I've seen thus far in the gameplay videos. That awful side quest that was leaked a couple weeks ago definitely put a damper on the game for me, and I've seen that the voice acting is inconsistent, but that won't be the first time that's happened in a game like this.

Honestly, I hope this means Guerilla Games will be successful enough to be even more ambitious next time. It was risky of them to leave Killzone behind and go in a different direction.
Really, a 3 minute cutscene from a sidequest is probably not representative of the animation in all of the cutscenes in a 40 to 50 hour long game. The important main story animation is apparently all good to great, as well as the main character's VA.

The Ubisoft/Farcry comparisons always seemed daft to me, since any similarities there are look to be mostly on the periphery. What the game looks like is The Witcher 3, with a slightly weaker narrative (particularly in side quests, although those don't look bad per se) but with a stronger combat system.

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


After the beta I'll probably pass on Ghost Recon. It's fun enough as a screw around with your buds game, but the tactical shooter I was hoping for is just not there at all. It feels like a total facade.

Feenix
Mar 14, 2003
Sorry, guy.
See... to me it seems like a super fun Mercenaries-themed chat room for you and your buds, with occasional moments of tactics. And I dig it for that....

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




when is the open beta for ghost recon. i am eager to not like another ubisoft microtransaction platform

Mars4523
Feb 17, 2014

Real hurthling! posted:

when is the open beta for ghost recon. i am eager to not like another ubisoft microtransaction platform
Feb 23 to 27 I think.

Manatee Cannon
Aug 26, 2010



Shimrra Jamaane posted:

My skeptic side refuses to believe that Zero Dawn can be good. I mean I hope it is but...

I don't get why everyone just automatically wrote the game off after one video of a side quest conversation

Atomic Robo-Kid
Aug 18, 2008

.Blast.Processing.

Are there any real reasons that point to Mass Effect Andromeda being as bad as some think?

Despite ME 3's ending I still dig the games universe and gameplay. Has Bioware just become a company that disappoints again and again to some people?

There's not many other rpgs on console that are like Bioware games. I still enjoy them even if there's problems with it.

(Witcher and Divinity are similar but I'm just not a fan of em, have that weird European rpg design of hundreds of items and clunky inventory/interface that I really dislike)

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


Manatee Cannon posted:

I don't get why everyone just automatically wrote the game off after one video of a side quest conversation

Seriously. People decided it was going to be bad out of nowhere for some reason a few months ago but really it's always looked like it would be pretty good.

Mars4523
Feb 17, 2014

Atomic Robo-Kid posted:

Are there any real reasons that point to Mass Effect Andromeda being as bad as some think?

Despite ME 3's ending I still dig the games universe and gameplay. Has Bioware just become a company that disappoints again and again to some people?

There's not many other rpgs on console that are like Bioware games. I still enjoy them even if there's problems with it.

(Witcher and Divinity are similar but I'm just not a fan of em, have that weird European rpg design of hundreds of items and clunky inventory/interface that I really dislike)
In fairness, the ending to ME3 was the culmination of all 3 games worth of story, which people clearly gave a poo poo about. And they flubbed it horribly.

And of course DA:I wasn't well received.

The gameplay in MEA looks interesting, but I think Bioware just needs to prove itself again and release something well received. Break the stigma of being "the company that releases bad RPGs" in some minds.

Snak
Oct 10, 2005

I myself will carry you to the Gates of Valhalla...
You will ride eternal,
shiny and chrome.
Grimey Drawer
It's just cause games are either really good or really bad. Sometimes a game is so mediocre it's unforgivable, and thus really bad, or sometimes a game is really mediocre, but "mindless fun" so it's really good. But it's either really good or really bad. Either because it was made by incompetent mass-market corperate shills and was focus grouped until it was really bad (or good), or it was made my a smaller studio with vision who weren't as influenced by the mainstream enough to make it really bad (or good).

Manatee Cannon
Aug 26, 2010



that's not true tho, even the best games have things they're bad at. like the witcher had bad combat for instance. games will also have bad demos sometimes and still be good, like when people got worried about ff15 after the demonstration of the titan fight

the first nier is a perfect example of a game that's not really good or bad. it was good at some things and bad at others, which led to it being a niche game with fans that were way into it but detractors that really weren't

Snak
Oct 10, 2005

I myself will carry you to the Gates of Valhalla...
You will ride eternal,
shiny and chrome.
Grimey Drawer
I'm not describing reality, I'm describing the zeitgeist of popular opinion. People nowadays only define their opinions in extremes.

Manatee Cannon
Aug 26, 2010



o well then yea you're right, people def go all in on hyperbole when given the chance

axelblaze
Oct 18, 2006

Congratulations The One Concern!!!

You're addicted to Ivory!!

and...oh my...could you please...
oh my...

Grimey Drawer
I think people are warry of the new ME because a ton of people left bioware mid development and EA have been very reluctant to show it off and hype for series as high profile as it is.

Bombadilillo
Feb 28, 2009

The dock really fucks a case or nerfing it.

I had to do a stealth mission to get a porn magfor kid.

Then the leisure king challenges me to a showdown and I turned into a rockstar and took 10%

I really like this game.

Failboattootoot
Feb 6, 2011

Enough of this nonsense. You are an important mayor and this absurd contraption has wasted enough of your time.

Atomic Robo-Kid posted:

Despite ME 3's ending I still dig the games universe and gameplay. Has Bioware just become a company that disappoints again and again to some people?

I mean, I've been disappointed by the last 3, maybe 4 games they've released since the timeline has gotten fuzzy so yes? DA:2, ME:3, SWtOR and DA:I all ran the gamut from, "this is ok but I regret paying full price" to, "retroactively undermined the entire franchise." I have absolutely 0 reason to have faith in Bioware. Also if you read this article describing a couple party members and don't immediately abandon the game then I would suspect you are an ex bioware forums poster because peebee sounds like Serah level garbage and the description for Liam isn't much better.

homeless snail
Mar 14, 2007

Let's be totally fair here, you can't count SWTOR against them.

Andrast
Apr 21, 2010


Yeah, SWTOR was a different studio. EA just liked to call all their studios some variation of Bioware when it was made.

Which means that Bioware's last games were DA2, ME3 and DAI, which doesn't exactly fill me with confidence about Andromeda

Andrast fucked around with this message at 06:57 on Feb 21, 2017

Mars4523
Feb 17, 2014

Failboattootoot posted:

I mean, I've been disappointed by the last 3, maybe 4 games they've released since the timeline has gotten fuzzy so yes? DA:2, ME:3, SWtOR and DA:I all ran the gamut from, "this is ok but I regret paying full price" to, "retroactively undermined the entire franchise." I have absolutely 0 reason to have faith in Bioware. Also if you read this article describing a couple party members and don't immediately abandon the game then I would suspect you are an ex bioware forums poster because peebee sounds like Serah level garbage and the description for Liam isn't much better.

I don't have a problem with Liam, but between the design for Peebee that features a midriff baring jacket IN SPACE and that derpy anime scoot-run she does in one of the story trailers, I can't help but despise her.

Also speaking of characters Cora is looking like a Miranda 2.0, in terms of icily professional elite biotics, although hopefully the camera will not be automatically drawn to her rear end.

CV 64 Fan
Oct 13, 2012

It's pretty dope.
The only thing I care about in regards to Andromeda is the multiplayer. I still play ME3 on the 360. I have absolutely zero excitement for a story written by modern Bioware.

Feenix
Mar 14, 2003
Sorry, guy.
Ok maybe it just finally sunk in after 3 betas, or maybe I'm being pitted against morons in my first matches, but both Duel AND Dominion (and I hated Dominion in the betas) went really well in For Honor. Fun and entertaining, even.

Dominion is a little spammy and chaotic, but it was a good time.

I will say P2P is a mistake, though. Twice in my first match, it paused to migrate hosts because of 2 ragequitters...

[edit] I will say it was a HUGE mistake for Ubi to not keep "My team / Enemy Team colors static." it fucks me up to be blue one time and orange another. Just make my team always appear blue to me.

Feenix fucked around with this message at 07:19 on Feb 21, 2017

Alder
Sep 24, 2013

I like the DA series but I bought them all at a significant discount so I'm biased. Also why did they close their official forums?

Andrast
Apr 21, 2010


Alder posted:

I like the DA series but I bought them all at a significant discount so I'm biased. Also why did they close their official forums?

Probably because they were garbage.

UnfortunateSexFart
May 18, 2008

𒃻 𒌓𒁉𒋫 𒆷𒁀𒅅𒆷
𒆠𒂖 𒌉 𒌫 𒁮𒈠𒈾𒅗 𒂉 𒉡𒌒𒂉𒊑


Feenix posted:

Ok maybe it just finally sunk in after 3 betas, or maybe I'm being pitted against morons in my first matches, but both Duel AND Dominion (and I hated Dominion in the betas) went really well in For Honor. Fun and entertaining, even.

Dominion is a little spammy and chaotic, but it was a good time.

I will say P2P is a mistake, though. Twice in my first match, it paused to migrate hosts because of 2 ragequitters...

I didn't like it after the two betas I played either. And yeah p2p crashes/pauses are terrible. :(

CharlieFoxtrot
Mar 27, 2007

organize digital employees



homeless snail posted:

Let's be totally fair here, you can't count SWTOR against them.

SWTOR was actually more fun and had some better storylines than most of those other games

Andrast posted:

Yeah, SWTOR was a different studio. EA just liked to call all their studios some variation of Bioware when it was made.

Didn't EA rename some random studio "Bioware Victory" to make a new Command and Conquer game, whatever happened to that

Feenix
Mar 14, 2003
Sorry, guy.
Haha , getting outnumbered 3 to 1 in Dominion, then careful retreat for about 20 seconds, kiting 2 players, only to have the 3rd swing and hit his teammate, then having them follow you into a large mob of your teammates and AI is satisfying as gently caress.

Sakurazuka
Jan 24, 2004

NANI?

Dead as a dodo as far as I know.

The triple punch of ToR, DA2 and the rage over ME3's ending made EA think twice about banking on Bioware's name to shift anything.

Alder
Sep 24, 2013

Andrast posted:

Probably because they were garbage.

I like forums so I can read the latest news because Reddit posts are often LQ. Also you can only pin two topics on the main page. It just needs to be strongly moderated to prevent endless flame topics like Gamefaqs and Steam.

Evil Canadian
Sep 10, 2000

No one man should have all that Psycho-Power.

A big problem with Horizon is I keep calling it "For Horizon" now cause of for honor :(

Atomic Robo-Kid
Aug 18, 2008

.Blast.Processing.

Failboattootoot posted:

I mean, I've been disappointed by the last 3, maybe 4 games they've released since the timeline has gotten fuzzy so yes? DA:2, ME:3, SWtOR and DA:I all ran the gamut from, "this is ok but I regret paying full price" to, "retroactively undermined the entire franchise." I have absolutely 0 reason to have faith in Bioware. Also if you read this article describing a couple party members and don't immediately abandon the game then I would suspect you are an ex bioware forums poster because peebee sounds like Serah level garbage and the description for Liam isn't much better.

No, you're right, Peebee sounds like a annoying fangirl character and being described as "bubbly" is just :rolleyes: stupid. Liam reminds me of Carth from KOTOR or Jacob from ME 2. Just your generic good guys, mediocre boy scouts.

I recall Serah in DA Inquisition being a bit too quirky, but not so bad that Id suddenly swear off Bioware games forever. If anything, Serah was the least of that games problems. It was way too long and had real bad collect bear asses quests.

I hope in Andromeda there's at least a Turian party member, Garrus was my favorite.

Policenaut
Jul 11, 2008

On the moon... they don't make Neo Kobe Pizza.

Look so long as BioWare isn't using the term "gigglesquee" to define a character it's fine.

Sakurazuka
Jan 24, 2004

NANI?

Sera was the worst thing about DA:I and probably the single worst character I've ever seen in a videogame.

fridge corn
Apr 2, 2003

NO MERCY, ONLY PAIN :black101:

Sakurazuka posted:

Sera was the worst thing about DA:I and probably the single worst character I've ever seen in a videogame.

:agreed:

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Evil Canadian
Sep 10, 2000

No one man should have all that Psycho-Power.

Sakurazuka posted:

Sera was the worst thing about DA:I and probably the single worst character I've ever seen in a videogame.

Sera is bad, but merril was way worse. Bioware characters have for sure kinda slacked over time. How about an bioware all-stars game where your party members are Minsc, Canderous Ordo, Black Whirlwind, Wrex, and Zaeed(yes 4/5 of those are all basically the same character, but its a good character).

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