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I was gonna say Kate should be higher than Damian but in a straight up hand to hand fight yeah that's probably pretty accurate, honestly. VV Hand to hand. He might not be allowed to use the staff. He should probably still be above Jason whose only notable skill is shooting guns, which would definitely not be allowed in a hand to hand fight. purple death ray fucked around with this message at 01:13 on Feb 21, 2017 |
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Tim should be above the random street tough rookie, that's for sure. Dude is crazy good with a staff. Seriously, this is a little insulting.
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Feb 21, 2017 01:11
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purple death ray posted:
While pre-reboot, Jason did beat Tim in a fight so I'm not too surprised. I don't recall him using guns in that fight either, but it's been a little while since I read Battle For The Cowl.
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Feb 21, 2017 01:36
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I've never bought the whole thing with Damian being such a world-class fighter. I get that he was trained by the best and is ruthless, but he's a 13 year old boy. Just physically he would be outclassed by strong adults with similar levels of training, like Kate or Tim. I get him being able to wipe the floor with the likes of Jason or Duke, guys who were self-taught or only briefly had Batman training.
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Feb 21, 2017 01:46
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JoshTheStampede posted:I've never bought the whole thing with Damian being such a world-class fighter. I get that he was trained by the best and is ruthless, but he's a 13 year old boy. Just physically he would be outclassed by strong adults with similar levels of training, like Kate or Tim. I get him being able to wipe the floor with the likes of Jason or Duke, guys who were self-taught or only briefly had Batman training. I dunno man, kids can be hardcore.
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Feb 21, 2017 01:49
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My disbelief shall not be suspended, fiction!
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Feb 21, 2017 01:59
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So not to spam too many threads but the boss tells me that DC's sales have settled into steady numbers 6 months post Rebirth. We are currently 100% higher on DC than we were last year. Imma get me a bonus check.
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Feb 21, 2017 03:02
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I would not put either Tim or Stephanie below Duke, honestly, unless he's some sort of savant that I'm not aware of. Actual experience has to count for a lot in this case. Forgot Helena still existed. 
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Feb 21, 2017 03:03
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It could be where Duke is expected to end up
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Feb 21, 2017 03:09
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Rhyno posted:So not to spam too many threads but the boss tells me that DC's sales have settled into steady numbers 6 months post Rebirth. We are currently 100% higher on DC than we were last year. You mean Nick Spencer insisting on Twitter that DC sales numbers are voodoo and Rebirth has actually been a failure is...wrong? The devil you say!
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Feb 21, 2017 04:16
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There's so much voodoo involved in both companies accounting that you really can't take either's numbers at face value. I'm sure DC numbers are up. Because they're doubling up their most popular books and cutting the number of titles down overall. If they weren't up there would be some serious cause for concern. I mean last year you only had one Batman book a month and this year you have two. That goes for all the big titles. Marvel overshipping their books is the same thing but actually a stupider move on their end since I'm sure it's costing them more to do that than it pays off.
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Feb 21, 2017 04:22
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Im sure the exact numbers are fudged, but anecdotally the people who work at my LCS do a big blog post about numbers and sales every month, and they've all remarked on how DC is kicking rear end now, whereas a year or two ago DC was getting outsold by Image every month and sometimes would have only 1 title in the top 25 issues sold. Granted, it's a nonstandard store - they're super-progressive and LGBT friendly and whatnot, but they still sell a ton of cape comics.
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Feb 21, 2017 04:26
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I mean anecdotally I'm buying way more. I can't even remember what I was buying last February from DC. Probably not much of anything to be honest. But now I'm getting 2 Green Arrows, 2 Supermans, 2 Actions, 2 Detectives, 1 Teen Titans, 1 Wonder Woman, 1 Supergirl, 1 Trinity, 1 Super Sons. There's no way I was getting 13 DC books in like 6 months last year.
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Feb 21, 2017 04:32
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This is just my shop's numbers. We're booming with DC right now. But anecdotally, the word around the industry is very similar. Unless you're Dennis Barger or one of his sheep.
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Feb 21, 2017 04:35
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I'm currently pulling 28 DC books, 25 Marvel books, 15 Image books, 1 IDW book, 1 Boom! book, and 1 Vertigo book, so yeah.
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Feb 21, 2017 04:37
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Roth posted:I'm currently pulling 28 DC books, 25 Marvel books, 15 Image books, 1 IDW book, 1 Boom! book, and 1 Vertigo book, so yeah. Is that a month? What the gently caress do you do for a living?
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Feb 21, 2017 04:40
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BrianWilly posted:I would not put either Tim or Stephanie below Duke, honestly, unless he's some sort of savant that I'm not aware of. Actual experience has to count for a lot in this case. Reboot Helena is probably a better fighter than pre flashpoint Helena, having been the Nick Fury of SPYRAL for so long.
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Feb 21, 2017 04:42
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Skwirl posted:Is that a month? What the gently caress do you do for a living? I'm a student and work part-time, but I don't have a lot of expenses which leaves me with a lot of spending money. Also, the comic shop I go to has a 20% discount which makes things relatively cheaper. Comes to around $50 a week on average. Edit - I also accidentally counted series that just ended that I haven't removed from my subs list on pulllist, and some that haven't started yet.
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Feb 21, 2017 04:45
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Roth posted:I'm a student and work part-time, but I don't have a lot of expenses which leaves me with a lot of spending money. That sounds a bit more reasonable, I spend more than that on booze a week, especially because you can theoretically resell some of that, where I'm probably at the point where I couldn't even give away my liver.
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Feb 21, 2017 04:48
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Skwirl posted:Is that a month? What the gently caress do you do for a living? I don't read that many DC or Image books but if you throw in several Valiant and a few more IDW books then that's close to what I get. It's not really that much weekly honestly. I'm also lucky in that except for some blurays here and there it's the only hobby I have that involves buying things. Skwirl posted:That sounds a bit more reasonable, I spend more than that on booze a week, especially because you can theoretically resell some of that, where I'm probably at the point where I couldn't even give away my liver. Well booze is not something I waste money on and I don't play video games or anything like that. Comparatively I probably spend less on comics.
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Skwirl posted:That sounds a bit more reasonable, I spend more than that on booze a week, especially because you can theoretically resell some of that, where I'm probably at the point where I couldn't even give away my liver. DC just has to make a Mother Panic movie and I can resell the first issue to dumb speculators when it comes out.
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Yeah I used to spend upwards of $100 a week on booze. If I didn't get to read poo poo for free I'd probably be broke.
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Feb 21, 2017 04:51
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Skwirl posted:Is that a month? What the gently caress do you do for a living? Now you made me want to self-analyze my pull list (which is part digital and part paper), which I know is madness: Marvel - 21: All New Xmen, Black Panther, World of Wakanda, Black Widow, CapSam, CapSteve, CapMarvel, Champions, Deadpool Mercs for Money, Extraordinary X-Men, Hawkeye, Hulk, IronDoom, IronRiRi, Jessica Jones, USAvengers, Patsy Walker, Ultimates2, USG, Uncanny Avengers, Uncanny X-men DC - 20: All-Star Batman, Batman, Batwoman, Detective, Flash, Flintstones, Green Arrow, Green Lanterns, JLA, Super Sons, Supergirl, Titans, Wonder Woman Image: Only Saga and WicDiv, everything else I tradewait. So 20 issues a month from DC, whereas before Rebirth I was buying...like 2?
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JoshTheStampede posted:Now you made me want to self-analyze my pull list (which is part digital and part paper), which I know is madness: And therein lies my point. See you're actually buying way more Marvel titles than DC, but because those DC books ship twice a month it looks more even than it actually is.
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X-O posted:And therein lies my point. See you're actually buying way more Marvel titles than DC, but because those DC books ship twice a month it looks more even than it actually is. Yeah, but number of titles is also a misleading statistic. If instead of double shipping those books just had one 50 page book for 5.99, I'd stll be buying roughly as much DC content as Marvel. Whereas prior to Rebirth, I was reading...Batgirl, Harley Quinn, Omega Men, and Titans Hunt, I think?
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Hey, I'll do this waste of time! Here's my currently running books, looking back at the last few months of the shipping thread. quote:DC: 29 But I've always gotten like 15-22 DC comics since 2011. If anything, the change has been to less Marvel since the original NOW days of Hickman Avengers, ect. edit: And I've learned to just wait on Comixology sales for most of Image. I am stockpiling every Sex Criminals, Saga, Bitch Planet and East of West for the one magical day I'll start them. Teenage Fansub fucked around with this message at 23:46 on Feb 21, 2017 |
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If we're doing this, then this would be everything I have on my sub list on pulllist: DC: All-Star Batman, Batgirl (dropping in April), Batman, Batwoman, Blue Beetle (dropping in April), Cave Carson, Deathstroke, Detective Comics, Doom Patrol, The Fall and Rise of Captain Atom, Gotham Academy: Second Semester, Green Arrow, Hal Jordan & The Green Lantern Corps, Justice League of America, Justice League vs Suicide Squad (ended), Justice League/Power Rangers, Kamandi Challenge, Mother Panic, New Super-Man, Nightwing, Odyssey of the Amazons, Raven (ended), Shade, The Changing Girl, Super Sons, Superman, Teen Titans, Titans (dropping in April), Wild Storm Marvel: Ben Reilly: Scarlet Spider (not started), Cage! (ended), Carnage (ended), Elektra (about to start), Gamora, Hawkeye, Iron Fist (not started), Man-Thing (not started), Moon Knight, Ms. Marvel, Nick Fury (not started), Nova, U.S.Avengers, Royals (not started), Spider-Man/Deadpool, Star Wars, Darth Maul, Doctor Aphra, Star-Lord, Thanos, Ultimates 2, Unstoppable Wasp, X-Men: Blue (not started), X-Men: Gold (not started) Image: Black Magick (hiatus), Black Monday Murders (hiatus), Black Science, Curse Words, Deadly Class, East of West, I Hate Fairyland (hiatus), Lazarus, Manifest Destiny, Monstress, The Old Guard (not started), Saga (hiatus), Sex Criminals, Underwinter (not started), The Wicked + The Divine IDW: Optimus Prime Boom!: Mighty Morphin Power Rangers Vertigo: Savage Things (not started)
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Jesus look at you nerds with your disposable incomes. Here is my pull list DC All-Star Batman, Batman, Detective Comics, Batgirl (probably gonna drop), Suicide Squad, Cave Carson, Mother Panic, Justice League of America Marvel Spider-Man Image Saga, Descender, Paper Girls, AD, Motor Crush I do buy Valiant stuff in trades, and even for trades now I am going to depend on libraries from now on outside of certain titles (oh hey, my library just ordered a whole bunch of Rebirth titles) Then there is booze, and if it wasn't for stupid easily accessible microbrews I would probably spend a lot less on booze (that is a lie but I would be drinking a lot less beer). Now that there is a wedding to finance and plan I am looking to cut back even more on titles. Also new titles I get digitally and old titles I still buy floppies.
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I am so down for a subs-wagging exhibition. Most comics $4 and up, I tend to wait for the next-month discount or much later Comixology sale. DC: Green Lanterns, Hal Jordan & GLC, Batman, Batwoman, Red Hood, Clean Room, Unfollow, Flintstones Edit: OH and all of Young Animal, they're on such a roll so far. Marvel: A Year of Marvels (digital-first) Image: Deadly Class, The Fix, Monstress, Sex Criminals, The Wicked + The Divine, Bitch Planet Valiant: Generation Zero, Divinity III Dark Horse: Black Hammer, Harrow County, Lady Killer (What's holding this up? Last issue was in November) Oni: Would be Letter 44 but it's gone to poo poo in my opinion so I'm going to shout BANDETTE as another indie (Monkeybrain/Dark Horse) because it's consistently great Space Fish fucked around with this message at 16:06 on Feb 21, 2017 |
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DC: Action Comics, Detective Comics, Green Arrow, Super Sons, Supergirl, Superman, Teen Titans, Trinity, Wonder Woman (evens) Marvel: All-New Wolverine, All-New X-Men, Amazing Spider-Man, Avengers, Captain America: Steve Rogers, Champions, Deadpool, Deadpool & The Mercs For Money, Extraordinary X-Men, Guardians of the Galaxy, Hawkeye, Infamous Iron Man, Jessica Jones, Moon Knight, Nova, Old Man Logan, Silk, Spider-Man, Spider-Woman, Spider-Man/Deadpool, Thanos, U.S.Avengers, Ultimates2, Uncanny Avengers, Uncanny Inhumans, Unstoppable Wasp Right now I'm reading way more Marvel and DC books than I have in years. And as for non "Big 2" books, well a lot of these don't even come out some months. Boom: Joyride, The Woods IDW: Ghostbusters International, Micronauts, Rom Image: Birthright, Drifter, East of West, Invisible Republic, Revival, The Fix (Books MIA: Copperhead, Lazarus, The Dying and The Dead) Valiant: Everything Archie: Archie, Josie & The Pussycats, Jughead Oni: Letter 44
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X-O posted:https://twitter.com/TomKingTK/status/833702769487917057 Down with this 100%. My Cassandra is fight, and Ace would tear up Jason because he is a hardcore dog.
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https://twitter.com/ScottyLobdell/status/833778956339785728 Preach it Scott.
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I'm sorry, but the canon pretty clearly shows that Ace is far smarter than Jason Todd.
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Feb 21, 2017 08:35
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You need to get in on that hashtag, D_T. Nobody else has used it yet. Edit: 'DC Comics: #hoodiesbetrolled!' as a thread title has a nice ring to it. Teenage Fansub fucked around with this message at 08:40 on Feb 21, 2017 |
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My single issue pulls are probably at a lower ebb now than at any point over the past 3 years. I dropped almost all of Marvel with the latest relaunch, and I rarely pull indy books in single issues any more because very few of them come out on a schedule regular enough that I can keep up with what is going on in them. Also, since I only started reading comics in the middle of The New 52, I've recently decided I want to spend more of my reading time and money going back and catching up on some of the more well-regarded or important stuff I missed from the past. I recently finished 52 and absolutely loved it, so I think next up will be more stuff from around that area of DC. Anyway: DC: Batgirl, Batgirl & Birds of Prey, Batwoman, Detective Comics, Flash, Green Arrow, Green Lanterns, Hal Jordan & Green Lantern Corps, Justice League of America, Suicide Squad, Superman, Titans, Trinity Marvel: Mighty Thor, Ms. Marvel. The only two Marvel books I couldn't do without. Indy: Giant Days and all of Valiant except Faith.
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Marvel Unlimited basically keeps me from buying Marvel books outside of the occasional mini (Cage). The last ongoing I tried was Jessica Jones but meh. DC being super available keeps me from buying much DC - it feels like if I want DC books I just need to wait a few months for my shop to put their backstock on a massive sale. I was all in on Batman for rebirth but the Monster Men mini event killed my interest. So I mostly end up buying indies. I think right now I'm pulling: DC: the young animal books, Frostbite Marvel: Nova because my son wanted it Other: AD After Death, Green Valley, Curse Words, Black Hammer, Kill or Be Killed, Ether, Motro, Black Monday Murders, Birthright, Autumnlands, He-Man vs Thundercats, Mycroft Holmes, Divinity 3 & any Valiant one shots or minis If Hickman or Brubaker start writing for the big 2 again I'll buy whatever they write.
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Dark_Tzitzimine posted:https://twitter.com/ScottyLobdell/status/833778956339785728 Tom "Fake News" King and the failing MSM think Jason Todd isn't the strongest! SAD!
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My turn!!! DC Action Comics, Aquaman, Batman, Detective Comics, Hal Jordan and the GLC, Green Lanterns, Flash, Justice League, JLA, Trinity, Superman, Titans Marvel Amazing Spider-Man, Avengers, Captain America Steve Rogers, Nova I've got a friend that has all the digital stuff for everything, so I just share his account and read a ton of other stuff on my Kindle. Keeps the bank account from going empty and the wife happy.
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I only read a few comics and they're all DC at this point. Batman, detective, Superman, All Star Batman, Trinity, and I'm adding Batwoman and Super Sons now. I will eventually go back and catch up on Nightwing, Batgirl, and a few others. I like reading arcs all at once so that'll be cool.
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