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Fitzy Fitz posted:Not as bad as when I found Frostbite on like D5 and then died a couple floors later. I have found this once in my entire time of Crawl (from an Ice Cave!) and after steamrolling I did the wrong thing and tried to do Hell where I lost it never to be seen again.
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Playing a Hopkin of IJC. Found evocable blinking early on. I'm blinking, hopping, and wall jumping. Bouncy as gently caress.
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Feb 21, 2017 16:25
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I was trying out Depths for the first time and got utterly ruined by a swarm of some kind of acidic bird in Depths 2. I thought I was pretty good, beating up armies of various giants and trolls, and having 2 runes.
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Caustic Shrikes are always bad news. They're basically bees except instead of being fragile and poisonous, they're robust and acidic.
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Feb 21, 2017 16:59
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You are basically guaranteed to die to caustic shrikes the first time you encounter them.
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Feb 21, 2017 17:02
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Nuclearmonkee programmed some advanced machine code for me to insert into the crawl file so now I don't have to press spacebar as I slam tab. My killing speed has increased by over 200%. By killing speed I mean both me and the enemies.
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Decrepus posted:Nuclearmonkee programmed some advanced machine code for me to insert into the crawl file so now I don't have to press spacebar as I slam tab. My killing speed has increased by over 200%. By killing speed I mean both me and the enemies. This would be really good in that portal that's just 50 kobolds spamming tomohawks of returning.
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I really do wish mid combat --more-- was limited to poo poo likely to be important. Instead you're just going to tab-spacebar your way past everything, which defeats the point of having --more--s in the first place. e: Hey, a logical change! quote:Swap Gravitas and Portal Projectile (Does anyone use gell's, ever? I doubt putting it in the Warper book will change that) Haifisch fucked around with this message at 18:51 on Feb 21, 2017 |
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Feb 21, 2017 18:48
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Is the IJC in Trunk or just the CouncilGod experimental?
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Feb 21, 2017 18:50
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It is in trunk proper now. It's Fun!
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Feb 21, 2017 19:24
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Serephina posted:100% your own drat fault? We just had a conversation on how comically unlikely it is to get hosed by cursed items in modern day crawl. You literally tried on a item of unknown curse status, knowing you had no remove curse scrolls, in the middle of combat no less. Yeah, this was mostly being frustrated with myself and the terrible item luck.
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Feb 21, 2017 19:36
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If I'm bored with MiBe and Demonspawn, should I consider Formicid?
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Teriyaki Koinku posted:If I'm bored with MiBe and Demonspawn, should I consider Formicid? Ability to wield a double-handed weapon and a shield? Permanent stasis so you can just laugh at *rage *tele *slow maluses? sInv from the get go? The ability to carve murder holes whenever you want? Antmen are pretty fun buddy. Until you get cornered after playing tab-master and realise you have no way to escape.
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Teriyaki Koinku posted:If I'm bored with MiBe and Demonspawn, should I consider Formicid? "Son, be a gargoyle," Is what dad said to me. "It's an easy run and you'll get tons of armor class for free"
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I like FoAK. The blink and abyss-yourself abilities make up for the issues with stasis. And the other Lugonu abilities are fun too.
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Feb 21, 2017 20:45
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who needs to "escape" when you have finesse
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Feb 21, 2017 20:49
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Can formicids wear 2 pairs of gloves? Asking for a fiend.
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no, presumably they put 2 weird ant hands into one glove like a big weird mitten
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Nah man, they're antenna warmers. The finger sections let them signal their current mood! 
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FulsomFrank posted:Antmen are pretty fun buddy. Until you get cornered after playing tab-master and realise you have no way to escape.
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Unless you at a branch end. Then ya just die.
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http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue//Speleothing/morgue-Speleothing-20170221-202559.txt You'd think a dude with the absolute maximum stealth possible would be able to get some stabbing in without waking up the whole first chamber. RIP best spriggan yet.
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Reminder that every single monster in your Line of Sight makes a check to notice you when it's their turn and asleep. All it takes is just one failure and the whole lung is awake and casting about. Nice quickblade, though! And I would recommend next time downing a potion of haste before you're set upon by all those death cobs. And maybe train up Invocations more so you could use their ability to Shadow Form reliably and maybe get away alive.
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Haifisch posted:(Does anyone use gell's, ever? I doubt putting it in the Warper book will change that) If you do fulfill those conditions (imo your best bet is playing an enchanter for hexes and hoping you find gells in a floor book) it is actually a surprisingly effective AoE damage spell when the conditions are met. If you encounter say 6-7 yaks and a hydra it's pretty easy to crush the hydra and severely damage/kill the surrounding yaks while also stopping the groups advance. Also the comedy zig option, if you have max power and every square is filled it's a 3 mana firestorm that ignores resistances.
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Getting a 100% crash in my current 0.19.3 save when i attempt to go from (cleared) elf 3 > 2, it crashes every time i try the stairs. No crash log generated. SEND HELP
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Darox posted:Gells is a weird spell. It's hexes/translocations which are not schools most characters really want to go deep into Gell's Gravitas is Translocations only as of yesterday.
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Matty posted:Getting a 100% crash in my current 0.19.3 save when i attempt to go from (cleared) elf 3 > 2, it crashes every time i try the stairs. No crash log generated. SEND HELP Surviving Elf is resulting in an Unexpected State error.
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tote up a bags posted:PLEASE make it that Cynos are hypnotised by Natasha This gives me an idea as an alternative to Shoutitis: You have an x% chance to become mesmerized by a monster when they enter view. However, I think that might be too strong of an effect in that you randomly get screwed in an early fight. A Tavern poster also seperately suggested a Cause Fear species ability: I would probably add on making it cause a loud noise and cause Breath or Exhaust, as well as basing power off of XL, but I'm not sure if giving it as a starting species ability is too powerful (even with the noise downside). I could also combine both ideas and let the Cause Fear ability break the mesmerize, but if I add both I fear I might be making things too gimmicky (and I'm leaning more towards the Cause Fear than the mesmerize). Any comments on whether they should get one or the other, both, or neither if the species is good enough as is flavor wise? As a separate note, #crawl-dev brought up two criticisms about clarity/good design issues with the species as is that I think I should make sure are addressed before making a push towards trying to get them added to Trunk. First, that designing the soft cap system around breakpoints is something that Crawl has been trying to get rid of for a while, and adding something else with breakpoints might not be a good idea. Second, that there isn't good player clarity in regards to when the aptitudes get reduced, and by how much, without looking at the code. I'm not concerning myself about the first criticism at the moment. I feel that, even though the aptitude decreases are hard changes at specific skill levels, the effective amount of experience spent per skill level as it tapers off works more like a soft curve than a hard breakpoint like weapon skill currently is. Another reason is that it would take another system rework to find a solution that solves both this issue and the "running out of skills" issue that the hard skill cap system had. I do think the second criticism may have some merit, which I may be oblivious to being already familiar with the system. Current information displayed to the player is their current aptitude per skill, the amount of skill points it costs per level (through the existing approximate skill cost system in the skill menu), and a message that appears whenever the aptitude increases/decreases as it hits one of the level breakpoints. However, it currently does not present which levels are the breakpoints, nor does it inform the player how much the aptitude drops at each breakpoint. The only current explanation is the custom mutation "You have a short attention span.", and the manual explanation of "This comes at the cost of a poor attention span, making it more difficult to train a skill the higher it gets." On one hand, there aren't defined numbers for when species mutations occur for any other species Edit: Draconians do have it mentioned, and I am dumb for missing it
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Is there no way to display it like a manual bonus? ~My immersion~ dictates that I should see numbers representing relative skill costs in the skill screen.
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Unimpressed posted:Surviving Elf is resulting in an Unexpected State error. Poisonous cloud is a hell of a thing. and i'm sad it no longer exists in 0.20  i'll be pissed if i can't fix this save, as not only did i survive elf, but there is also a treasure trove i have the item for! (ike 3 branches away, whelp.)Onto actual questions, i found wyrmbane in this game and the wiki is a little unclear.. it upgrades as you kill dragons based on hd right? the thing is, the first dragon i killed with it was Bai Suzhen (20 hd i think?) this only made the lance go from +8 > +9. based on what the wiki says, does this mean it now won't upgrade if i kill any dragon below 20 hd now? Matty fucked around with this message at 02:05 on Feb 22, 2017 |
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It upgrades as long as the victim's HD is higher than the current enchantment, so for example at +12 you need to kill dragons with HD higher than 12. It caps out at +18.
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SKULL.GIF posted:Gell's Gravitas is Translocations only as of yesterday. I kinda think that actually manages to make the spell worse. Generally speaking I don't think characters want to put much experience into translocations unless they are going all the way to cBlink. Blink is cheap and ignores power, apportation and pproj also don't really need much power. I don't know how much people use dispersal/disjunction but they're definitely not big draws for me. Gells at minimum investment isn't very good but Gells also isn't good enough to justify going heavily into translocations for its own sake. Meanwhile hexes has a ton of useful mid level spells so you could push the power of Gells up by just dabbling in translocations while still progressing to other useful spells.
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I actually invest in translocations a lot. This is partly because I really like using malign gateway. Also even if I'm not aiming for cBlink I want passge of golubria at as low a failure rate as possible.
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I play a lot of warpers and would love to see more spell options for translocations. Placement is really important in Crawl, and warping stuff is just a neat idea in general. If only there were some high level spell worth working toward...maybe....you could call it....Singularity??
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While I rarely invest past the minimum into translocations myself, it is a different story for my more warrior-focused warpers. With a limited selection of spells, I find myself using teleport other to break up yak packs, for instance. In other words, I'm at least more likely to try it out now, although I'm skeptical I'll like it. Once I lose any chance at a streak, I'll try it out on an ogre warper and see how much I forget it even exists
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Fitzy Fitz posted:I play a lot of warpers and would love to see more spell options for translocations. Placement is really important in Crawl, and warping stuff is just a neat idea in general. If only there were some high level spell worth working toward...maybe....you could call it....Singularity??
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brainwrinkle posted:Is there no way to display it like a manual bonus? ~My immersion~ dictates that I should see numbers representing relative skill costs in the skill screen. Here's how the skill screen currently looks:  Here's the message that appears when you hit one of the skill level breakpoints:  And, in case you're an Ashenzari worshipping Cyno, here's what happens when you Transfer Knowledge and drop below one of the skill level breakpoints:  The criticism is based on the fact that, despite this information, the player has no in-game accessible knowledge of when these breakpoints will occur, nor how much the aptitude will be affected, until it happens. I'm wondering if this is a valid complaint that a player (casual or inexperienced with the species) could be caught off guard about, or if this can be comparable to species mutations Edit: Draconians do mention it, I am dumb
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It's seems easy enough to realize what's happening, like Draconians. At most it could use a force_more if it seems like it might get lost in the message log.
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Cyno FR: when a monster with sufficiently higher HD than XL appears in LOS, slow movement down on account of tail being between legs.
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Cyno FR: Racial evokable Clarity effect that generates very high noise. Confused? Bark! Angry? Bark! Hypnotised? Bark!
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