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FAUXTON posted:That's why the Raider exists though. This game feels like the kind of place gamergaters would coagulate so naturally, you want to roll with the black woman Raider so you can troll them with stuns and throw them into holes. I dunno i encounter a lot of SJW's in this game that are crying because of diversity. This line of discussion you are going down is dumb.
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Exmond posted:I dunno i encounter a lot of SJW's in this game that are crying because of diversity. If you don't like throwing your enemies into pits then this game may not be for you.
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Feb 21, 2017 19:16
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FAUXTON posted:That's why the Raider exists though. Raider exists so that you can punish an out of stamina enemy for 90% of their health.
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Feb 21, 2017 19:24
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Ice Fist posted:Raider exists so that you can punish an out of stamina enemy for 90% of their health. I prefer throwing them around, mainly because I'm bad at parrying.
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Feb 21, 2017 19:26
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Evil Canadian posted:Warden funny way to say Orochi. I rip up orochi as kensei. Just out-range them. Many players underestimate the Kensei's range, which is like tied for longest in the game. Orochi doesn't have nearly as much, take advantage of your dash attacks and poo poo. Like the side dash attack on Kensei will still forward-track a TON, and almost nobody expects that. I throw side dash attack from good distance when the enemy's about to attack, dodges their attack and slashes them good from further away than they think they can be hit. But I agree, the other classes should just get slightly buffed to be up to Warden's level, not the other way around. And I think lots of classes are pretty good as they are. Evil Canadian posted:Reminds me of when sf5 came out and 2 weeks in everyone thought the game was "solved", oh and how wrong everyone was. Yeah guys the meta for this game at pro level has not even begun to form yet. Zaphod42 fucked around with this message at 19:37 on Feb 21, 2017 |
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Does anyone have some tips for the Berserker's deflect timing? I've gotten to the point that I've stopped trying to figure it out and instead have reverted to playing Berserker like Chivalry's Man at Arms with a punt to send them off instead of a silly shout. I seem to struggle the most with the Warlord and occasionally a Kensei. Adding to the kudos for the suggestion of using a level 3 Orochi bot to practice block/parry too.
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Feb 21, 2017 19:35
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Nebiros posted:Does anyone have some tips for the Berserker's deflect timing? I've gotten to the point that I've stopped trying to figure it out and instead have reverted to playing Berserker like Chivalry's Man at Arms with a punt to send them off instead of a silly shout. I seem to struggle the most with the Warlord and occasionally a Kensei. Its just like parrying but you dodge instead. You do it when the red flashes, just like a parry. IIRC Berzerker doesn't even get as much out of deflect as Orochi or Peacekeeper so no biggie if you just parry instead.
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Feb 21, 2017 19:38
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Exmond posted:I dunno i encounter a lot of SJW's in this game that are crying because of diversity. The problem with this game is that there are gender specific classes, because it means i produce less salt as a warlord because i cant be a lady. I had a warden player complain about my headbut combo today  Also on the same topic, a teamate was saying it didnt make sense for me to be a black viking. I told him that black people have boats too and that if he knew any history he'd know that vikings sailed extremely far, especially compared to their contemporaries. I dont think it got through his thick skull though. Can i just say, i wish revenge mode had an effect on guard breaks? It's pretty impossible to fight 1vX because of how strong guard breaks are.
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Feb 21, 2017 19:39
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What's the deal with the follow-up stab after the Warlord headbutt anyway? I feel like it only comes out like a third of the time I try it.
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Feb 21, 2017 19:41
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Keegers posted:Vikings need a fat brawler type dude like shogoki, but uses his fists and his taunt is drinking beer Just team up with Blizzard and put in the lost vikings and you'll have all your bullshit bases covered. Fat guy who can't be hit, guy with nothing but a sword who attacks constantly, and the guy who runs from you until the match ends.
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fadam posted:What's the deal with the follow-up stab after the Warlord headbutt anyway? I feel like it only comes out like a third of the time I try it. Tight timing. My own experience is that you can't be pushing the right stick in a direction either.
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I've resigned myself to either needing to plug in my PS4 controller or find a keybinding for dodge that isn't space bar because I tend to use my thumb for space and D and dodging right means I'm moving everything off their normal keys and then having to put them back in an instant.
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Feb 21, 2017 19:42
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Zaphod42 posted:Its just like parrying but you dodge instead. The free guard break can be comboed into a forward throw that drains like 50% or more of someones stamina. Against warlord, i would advise feinting into a guard break. Otherwise, as a warlord player, there's not much you can do.
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Feb 21, 2017 19:44
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fadam posted:What's the deal with the follow-up stab after the Warlord headbutt anyway? I feel like it only comes out like a third of the time I try it. I get more success hitting attack during the headbut, as if it's a legit combo(which it technically is but no other combo has that tight input timing)
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Feb 21, 2017 19:47
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Does anyone know if there's a way to get the game to...uh, not recognize my gamepad as a gamepad? I'm trying to use Joy2Key to rebind stuff, but the game just sees a controller and apparently you cannot rebind a controller?
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Feb 21, 2017 20:00
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Comparing the Warlord's kit to the Conqueror's is really funny. The Warlord has a ton of offensive and defensive options (including the best parry in the game imo) and the Conqueror has a bad version of headbutt and a gimmicky weapon charge.
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Feb 21, 2017 20:02
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This round was Peak Raider. Tossed my first enemy into a geyser, then nabbed my teammate's opponent from his orochi duel and dumped him into a pit. Behold: 
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Feb 21, 2017 20:05
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fadam posted:Comparing the Warlord's kit to the Conqueror's is really funny. The Warlord has a ton of offensive and defensive options (including the best parry in the game imo) and the Conqueror has a bad version of headbutt and a gimmicky weapon charge. I've gotten Conqueror to prestige 2 and I think I'm going to stop playing him. Not because he's bad but because he's really loving boring.
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A few quick questions about this game since a lot of it seems either incomplete or unintuitive: 1. Guard break interrupt doesn't work the way it says in the tutorial, right? It seems to require you to hit X and then change stance for it to work, rather than just hitting X. 2. Does Brawl mode exist? I have a daily for doing Brawl matches and the map category says Brawl & Duel, but only seems to have duel. Do I have to be in a party for Brawl to appear? 3. Is the faction thing important? I chose to fight for knights, which seems to mean that the only relevant types of matches I can do are Dominion and Elimination/Skirmish. If I do duels it doesn't appear to mean anything since that bit of territory is contested between Vikings and Samurai and there's nowhere to deploy war assets at the end of a round. Are war assets like a currency that gets banked and then deployed later at a different location if my faction isn't fighting there? I like the actual game, but god drat is all the online stuff Ubisoft as gently caress.
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NoEyedSquareGuy posted:A few quick questions about this game since a lot of it seems either incomplete or unintuitive: 1. No, it works how it works in the tutorial, it's just really strict timing. You have to hit the button when the icon flashes white and you have to be in a neutral state (I think). Moving your block around shouldn't be necessary. 2. Yea, go to the Duel & Brawl mode and hit the arrow to change the mode to Brawl. 3. I actually have no idea how this works and I have like close to 30 hours in the game lmao.
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TV dog Wishbone of PBS posted:This round was Peak Raider. Tossed my first enemy into a geyser, then nabbed my teammate's opponent from his orochi duel and dumped him into a pit. You're doing God's work.
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NoEyedSquareGuy posted:A few quick questions about this game since a lot of it seems either incomplete or unintuitive: 1. Teching guard break is about doing it as soon as they touch you, which the tutorial doesnt explain well. 2. Yes, you should be able to select(bumpers on controller) brawl instead of duel. 3. No it's not. Though your assets get spread evenly across all fronts if you dont/cant select a spot. Selecting a spot gives a bonus though.
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Feb 21, 2017 20:12
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Here's a thought: don't play multi-player modes if you don't want to fight multiple opponents.
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:Here's a thought: don't play multi-player modes if you don't want to fight multiple opponents. NO gently caress YOU BUSHIDO CHIVALRY HONOR CANCER TOXIC COMMUNITY What buzzwords am I missing here?
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I did a 2v2 yesterday and my (much better than the rest of us) partner let us duel. ...Until I got in trouble then he threw my opponent off a cliff. then we danced. Amazing
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Yeah when my friend and I 2v2 we won't attack the other guy in a 2v1. Not because of honor or anything we're just both really lovely at fighting 1v2 so we hope we can trick the other team into not doing it.
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fadam posted:Yeah when my friend and I 2v2 we won't attack the other guy in a 2v1. Not because of honor or anything we're just both really lovely at fighting 1v2 so we hope we can trick the other team into not doing it. Honor is the fear of being on the losing end of a 1v2
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I got in a fight with a guy in Dominion during Sudden Death - were were getting our rear end beat. It was 1v3 and his two teammates showed up and did cheer emotes. I appreciated that. Then I decided to be a little cheeky and switched targets and sucker-hit one of them. They quickly teamed up and beat my rear end but I went down swinging, drat it.
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satanic splash-back posted:Honor is the fear of being on the losing end of a 1v2 Maybe, but I get 90% of my kills by pushing people into poo poo so 
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Honor is popping revenge and hitting 3 people at once with an AOE unblockable that kills one and seriously injures the other two, one of which you shove off a cliff, and the other you execute followed by emote cancel spamming until it fades to black
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NoEyedSquareGuy posted:3. Is the faction thing important? I chose to fight for knights, which seems to mean that the only relevant types of matches I can do are Dominion and Elimination/Skirmish. If I do duels it doesn't appear to mean anything since that bit of territory is contested between Vikings and Samurai and there's nowhere to deploy war assets at the end of a round. Are war assets like a currency that gets banked and then deployed later at a different location if my faction isn't fighting there? When you want to deploy assets you can hit back and pick another territory unrelated to your game type to distribute to freely. Or, as I do, not give a gently caress and it auto distributes evenly among all your contested territories.
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Someone said warlord has the best parry, how is that? The superior block thing? I can't figure out why you'd want to do that instead of just a regular parry
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I'm completely ignoring faction warfare. Nothing you do affects the outcome in any way, shape or form. Despite ubi pushing the faction warfare as the most important part of the game the outcome is pretty much worthless until the last 2 phases and well, nothing you can do to change the outcome there either
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TV dog Wishbone of PBS posted:This round was Peak Raider. Tossed my first enemy into a geyser, then nabbed my teammate's opponent from his orochi duel and dumped him into a pit. if only there was a mode where you could 1v1 people also, the pose of the peacekeeper in that screenshot is absolutely perfect 
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Ice Fist posted:Raider exists so that you can punish an out of stamina enemy for 90% of their health. Have I missed a key Raider confirm? If someone is on the ground for either a out of stamina fall or a carry that dumps them the only confirmed hit I can get is a single zone attack. Technically not even that is a guarantee because they technically can parry it (but is very difficult to time). All other heavies can be blocked as they stand up.
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Captain Beans posted:Have I missed a key Raider confirm? After watching Tru Talent play him a no stamina knock down can be punished with an overhead heavy and followed up by a zone as they stand up. Although the zone during standup may not be confirmed. He was playing an absolutely wonderful mind game with his opponents where he would launch the zone, cancel it, then parry their parry attempt into a knock down. It was magical to watch. I saw him land the Overhead heavy into zone multiple times, but again, not entirely sure if it's confirmed.
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After banging my head against a wall for awhile trying to remap my controller, failing everything, including trying to remap through Steam, I finally followed the instructions in this link, and it works...mostly: https://www.reddit.com/r/forhonor/comments/5qi3e2/pc_want_to_rebind_your_controller/ It sucks that it doesn't change the button prompts in game, but anything is better than having guard break mapped to square. Changing subjects, I'm having difficulty using the Berserker, and I'm curious if my opinions on the class or correct, or if I'm just missing something. The first opinion I have is that for a character that relies on mobility and being in close, she really lacks a good distance closer. I wish I could take a couple of the Warlord's moves to close distance and insert them in the Berserker moveset. The other thing is that I have a lot of trouble landing that first hit when I try to play aggressively. I just have a terrible time breaking through someone's defense to land those first couple of hits. I have a lot more success when I wait for a parry or a deflect, which is ok when I'm playing Warlord because I have such a deep health pool that I can make a mistake or two and come back from it, but when I do that with a Berserker, if I happen to miss my first parry, I'm in a lot of trouble playing from behind.
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Ice Fist posted:After watching Tru Talent play him a no stamina knock down can be punished with an overhead heavy and followed up by a zone as they stand up. Although the zone during standup may not be confirmed. He was playing an absolutely wonderful mind game with his opponents where he would launch the zone, cancel it, then parry their parry attempt into a knock down. It's not, but the unblockable gets double damage if you combo it. So overhead chop for like 45 dmg into unblockable for 50 more is just so tempting. It can be parried or dodged, but they're likely out of stamina anyway so it's hard for them to punish.
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TV dog Wishbone of PBS posted:This round was Peak Raider. Tossed my first enemy into a geyser, then nabbed my teammate's opponent from his orochi duel and dumped him into a pit. There needs to be a Get Honor emote.
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